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up_the_irons: Happy Tuesday
man, the 15th already?! it'll be christmas again before we know it...
brycec: Wooo Tuesday! Wait, what's so special about Tuesday?
mike-burns: Tuesday's coming, did you bring your coat?
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tooth: I live in a giant bucket
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mercutio: staticsafe: did you just post to outages@? :)
staticsafe: mercutio: i did
mercutio: heh
small world
that cable's been out for 5 days apparently :/
i'd noticed high pings to singapore
staticsafe: indeed
mercutio: but thought it was probably blizzard's fault
staticsafe: A repair ship, the ASEAN Explorer is set to arrive on the fault site on February 7, with an estimated resolution date of February 11.
mercutio: yeh
i read that
its' a very long time
some isp's are routing a VERY long way around it
some are routing via HK/Japan
some are more like "let's jump to the US and back again"
staticsafe: indeed
mercutio: but
how did you know about it?
it's hardly been in any news
staticsafe: someone talked about it in #linode
mercutio: oh
from nz or au?
staticsafe: nz
mercutio: heh
apaprently the biggest isp here is having 2 hour emali delays because of it
which is pathetic
staticsafe: outsourcing e-mail indeed
mercutio: yeh
running at 80%+ load? :)
i don't find outages list that useful
it's hard to really know when random things go down
staticsafe: aye
up_the_irons: damn, #linode has 424 users in their channel
-: up_the_irons tells everyone to get their friends in here :)
meingtsla: Feels like their population's declined a bit
up_the_irons: this channel has had some drop off lately too
yet business still grows, so not sure what is up...
mercutio: this channel has been dead
i dunno, i'd say it's cos it's summer
but most people it's winter for
up_the_irons: it's winter here :)
jbergstroem: isn't irc most often the result of having to much time? :)
(or needing 0day help)
up_the_irons: hah
i definitely don't have too much time, but i still like irc :)
mercutio: jbergstroem: lots of people just idle a lot
mnathani: Anyone know what a low cost option is for getting an SSL cert that validates with a Green Bar in browsers like IE
mercutio: green bar?
i know namecheap are cheap for ssl certs, but have no idea about this green bar thing
facebook has no green bar
in ie
mnathani: something like http://www.itdonut.co.uk/sites/default/files/firefox_ie_green_bar.jpg
brycec: I think that's a "verified" cert or something
relatively new
er, validated
represents that the CA has doen super-extensive validation abd background checks
One option (and some more information) http://www.startssl.com/?app=30
mnathani: Paypal and the like have it
brycec: thanks
brycec: (I've used StartSSL's free cert with no probs)
np mnathani
mercutio: http://postimage.org/image/j1hzly045/
oh paypal
no it doesn't
brycec: Paypal: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2013-01-15_20-00-36.png
(in the latest chrome-dev)
mercutio: weird mine doesn't
oh
i thought we were talking about ie
mnathani: try IE
brycec: versus regular facebook https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2013-01-15_20-00-56.png
mercutio: ok in chrome it shows green
so paypal green bar in chrome but not ie
i should check facebook in chrome
mnathani: does the startssl free cert work without installing a trusted root authority in the OS?
brycec: recent veresion of IE?
mnathani: yes
mercutio: nah
facebook has green https
but no green bar
brycec: mnathani: which is why startssl > cacert.org
mercutio: it's ie 10 i think
brycec: Well no explaining why the EV isn't showing for you mercutio *shrug*
mercutio: i can't say i normally use ie
http://postimage.org/image/s4s5wc0t3/full/
brycec: I _never_ use it
ewwww Win8
Let's just blame it on Win8
mercutio: windows 8 is the new standard
as much as it may pain you to hear that
it's no worse than vista
brycec: my standard is Linux, so there :P
mercutio: yeh well i like openbsd
but yeah openbsd is even worse than linux for video card support
apparently now days you're meant to use intel onboard video if you want open source drivers
i thought ati were ok, but that was in 5000 days, in 7000 days limited support
mnathani: brycec: how long are the startssl certs valid? I got this message when registering: You will be able to use this verification for the next 30 days, after which it expires and must be renewed.
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brycec: mnathani: 1yr as I recall
think that's just for signing up
(been awhile)
mnathani: yup, just installed and verified
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mnathani: it pays to idle in here :-)
brycec: heh
mnathani: and I was going to go with a namecheap low cost ssl cert
up_the_irons: It Pays to Idle in Here(tm), tell your friends
;)
-: brycec leans back and waits for the referal cheques to come flying in
milki: lol
mnathani: What do you guys use for cloud based Email? I used to use the free version of Google Apps, but they have since discontinued that version.
mercutio: what's PST?
compared to GMT?
mnathani: GMT - 8:00 if I am not mistaken
mercutio: ok
so it's 7:53 pm pst atm?
brycec: yes mercutio
mnathani: https://www.google.com/search?q=time+in+california&oq=time+in+california&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
mercutio: oh i didn't think of that
mnathani: but yes
mercutio: i googled PST TO GMT
and it didn't work
mph to kmh works :/
brycec: mnathani: I use GApps (still). Don't know what I would use if setting up a completely new domain. (or I would just alias the domain to an existing GApps)
mercutio: i saw the twitter thing about 9 pm pst coresite making changes thing
not that it proably maeks much diff
mnathani: I went down the road of trying alternatives like Office365 and their Exchange Online, not free but lacking so many features that I took for granted with Google Apps
Another thing that bothers me is that I am so used to Gmail / Google App style conversation email that anything else just does not work.
brycec: lol
mnathani: Not to mention other goodies like labels, filters, the ability to send using different from accounts via the respective SMTP servers from within gmail
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mnathani: How does one get quick screenshot links using Dropbox ?
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milki: hiccup!
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brycec: mnathani: I wrote a script, it looks something like this https://gist.github.com/3741684
-: brycec updates the gist
brycec: now it looks exactly like that
milki: oo, i see the twitter post account the maintenance now
>.>
mercutio: milki: the one in PST?
-: milki nods
milki: 9pm-2am
mercutio: you never know it may go bette :)
milki: 2 more hours!
mercutio: i'm weary when people talk about enhancements :)
milki: hehe
mercutio: things seem normal atm