#arpnetworks 2013-01-11,Fri

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staticsafeevening [14:27]
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Webhostbuddis anyone else having serious issues with packet loss to arp
i can't figure out if it's just me
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staticsafev4 or v6? [16:16]
Webhostbuddv4
it seems like a semi upstream problem
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staticsafeWebhostbudd: looking good from my vantage point [16:17]
Webhostbuddhmmmm
people from North Carolina aren't having problems either
but everyone in the NYC/PA tri state area is having massive packet loss issues on multiple different isp's
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staticsafeNYC?
one sec
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milkio.O
thats pretty localized
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Webhostbuddi can't figure this out at all [16:17]
staticsafeWebhostbudd: mtrs would be useful [16:18]
Webhostbuddyea
it's on and off though
ill have to wait until it happens again
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staticsafeany particular ISP? [16:19]
Webhostbuddpenteledata and rcn
specifically
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Webhostbuddit looks like it could be an issue at nlayer
My traceroute [v0.82]
dev (0.0.0.0) Fri Jan 11 21:06:27 2013
Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit
Packets Pings
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. gw.home.wkennington.com 0.0% 98 0.4 0.5 0.3 4.3 0.5
2. 10.113.0.1 0.0% 98 6.8 8.1 4.8 24.7 3.2
3. gateway2-t8-2-sectvcmtsfarm2.sm.ptd.net 0.0% 98 6.6 13.5 5.5 220.1 25.3
4. gateway-t3-2-abn2sm2.abn.ptd.net 0.0% 97 13.7 16.4 10.6 186.2 17.8
5. xe-2-0-7-821.ar1.iad1.us.nlayer.net 0.0% 97 26.0 18.1 13.3 34.2 3.8
6. ae3-30g.cr2.iad1.us.nlayer.net 0.0% 97 18.8 19.6 12.7 99.4 12.3
7. xe-4-3-0.cr1.lax1.us.nlayer.net 16.5% 97 87.8 85.5 79.0 141.9 10.8
8. ae1-50g.ar1.lax2.us.nlayer.net 4.1% 97 84.3 84.7 80.6 93.6 3.1
9. 69.174.121.73 0.0% 97 87.2 88.4 79.3 101.0 5.3
10. ge0-arpnet.cust.lax07.mzima.net 0.0% 97 95.0 91.0 80.6 202.7 22.0
11. wkennington.com 0.0% 97 85.6 83.9 79.5 111.0 4.5
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staticsafeer pastebin [19:19]
Webhostbuddyea.... [19:19]
milkinot that its derailing a very important conversation [19:19]
staticsafeit isn't indeed [19:20]
Webhostbuddwell, even after 1000's of pings, 7. still seems to be losing a lot of pings (however it is routing the pings to later hosts) [19:21]
mercutiowebhost: i wouldn't worry about that
andthe jitter seems to help at hop 2
so local in nature
also if it's interrmittent it probably doens't show easy with mtr
unless it's at the right time
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Webhostbuddyea
im waiting for it
then ill start mtr again
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mercutiowhat sucks is when you lose connectivity and want to do reverse
and you try and find another way in
then it's fine again :/
i want an autorerouting ssh :)
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milkimercutio: check out https://github.com/keithw/mosh
well actually, that only works for one end...
so never mind -.-
it relies on a side channel tcp listener i think
o, udp
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mercutiomosh doesn't reroute
it only helps with packet loss
if you have 100% loss you're screwed
you need something like mosh but that can use multiple paths to a destination
well doesn't necessarily need to be like mosh, it could just present tcp/ip to the other end
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jlgaddisWebhostbudd: http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog45/abstracts.php?pt=MTE4NSZuYW5vZzQ1 [23:59]

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