evening 'afternoon howdy is anyone else having serious issues with packet loss to arp i can't figure out if it's just me v4 or v6? v4 it seems like a semi upstream problem Webhostbudd: looking good from my vantage point hmmmm people from North Carolina aren't having problems either but everyone in the NYC/PA tri state area is having massive packet loss issues on multiple different isp's NYC? one sec o.O thats pretty localized i can't figure this out at all Webhostbudd: mtrs would be useful yea it's on and off though ill have to wait until it happens again any particular ISP? penteledata and rcn specifically it looks like it could be an issue at nlayer My traceroute [v0.82] dev (0.0.0.0) Fri Jan 11 21:06:27 2013 Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit Packets Pings Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. gw.home.wkennington.com 0.0% 98 0.4 0.5 0.3 4.3 0.5 2. 10.113.0.1 0.0% 98 6.8 8.1 4.8 24.7 3.2 3. gateway2-t8-2-sectvcmtsfarm2.sm.ptd.net 0.0% 98 6.6 13.5 5.5 220.1 25.3 4. gateway-t3-2-abn2sm2.abn.ptd.net 0.0% 97 13.7 16.4 10.6 186.2 17.8 5. xe-2-0-7-821.ar1.iad1.us.nlayer.net 0.0% 97 26.0 18.1 13.3 34.2 3.8 6. ae3-30g.cr2.iad1.us.nlayer.net 0.0% 97 18.8 19.6 12.7 99.4 12.3 7. xe-4-3-0.cr1.lax1.us.nlayer.net 16.5% 97 87.8 85.5 79.0 141.9 10.8 8. ae1-50g.ar1.lax2.us.nlayer.net 4.1% 97 84.3 84.7 80.6 93.6 3.1 9. 69.174.121.73 0.0% 97 87.2 88.4 79.3 101.0 5.3 10. ge0-arpnet.cust.lax07.mzima.net 0.0% 97 95.0 91.0 80.6 202.7 22.0 11. wkennington.com 0.0% 97 85.6 83.9 79.5 111.0 4.5 er pastebin yea.... not that its derailing a very important conversation it isn't indeed well, even after 1000's of pings, 7. still seems to be losing a lot of pings (however it is routing the pings to later hosts) webhost: i wouldn't worry about that andthe jitter seems to help at hop 2 so local in nature also if it's interrmittent it probably doens't show easy with mtr unless it's at the right time yea im waiting for it then ill start mtr again what sucks is when you lose connectivity and want to do reverse and you try and find another way in then it's fine again :/ i want an autorerouting ssh :) mercutio: check out https://github.com/keithw/mosh well actually, that only works for one end... so never mind -.- it relies on a side channel tcp listener i think o, udp mosh doesn't reroute it only helps with packet loss if you have 100% loss you're screwed you need something like mosh but that can use multiple paths to a destination well doesn't necessarily need to be like mosh, it could just present tcp/ip to the other end Webhostbudd: http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog45/abstracts.php?pt=MTE4NSZuYW5vZzQ1