up_the_irons: jlgaddis: so ESXi isn't Linux based in some way? (I know jack about VMware) gluffis: kernel is based on linux... Redhat from the beginning as as i know
wonder if I shall upgrade my vps to a newer openbsd ;) up_the_irons: i would imagine vmware would have some megaraid compatible binary gluffis: there is pretty good HCL's at vmware
but yes, megaraid seems reasonable jlgaddis: Well, I think I found a solution, been working on that for a bit... except I just rebooted the physical host and now I can't connect to it. :/ up_the_irons: ouch jlgaddis: Oh hell, there it comes
I swear that was the longest fuckin' reboot ever. mercutio: jlg: raid controllers always maek reboots take a bit longer
jlg: but yeah, esxi does seem to make things complicated, enough so that i just pointed you at what i found rather than trying to understand it :)
jlg: some people advocate passing raid controllers through to openindiana, using vt-d, (hardware passthrough) and then exporting storage to esxi
which to me seems complicated and messy
but you'd have normal cli program in that situation jlgaddis: I could ping it for about eight minutes before the vSphere Client would finally connect. mercutio: oh what
i've never seen that jlgaddis: Apparently I can manage this LSI card from other hosts once I have this agent/CIM/VIB/WTFever it's called installed. mercutio: jlg: cool. well if you can get there, up_the_irons seems to know what command to do to accomplish what you're trying to accomplish
which in itself is a nightmare -: gluffis remembers the first reboot of a Sun E4000... 15 minutes before anything on the console... mercutio: including serial?
i like it how computers are finally getting faster at booting though
like the new motherboards most of them boot really quickly for desktops now
haven't seen a quick server bootup yet, but i'ms ure it'll come...
it's kind of bizzare that it seems to have never been a selling point of servers any time recently that they boot quickly
cos when things are meant to run 24/7
the boottime can be a real pita
and failover is complicated jlgaddis: Well, when you only reboot them once a year or two, a few minutes difference doesn't really matter. mercutio: if people are using services on them it still sucks
but yeah they shouldn't reboot :)
there's also things like linux doesn't do parallel scans by default
well not on ahci
you have to pass some ahci_disable_sss or something parameter up_the_irons: for something that doesn't get rebooted often, a few minutes doesn't matter, like jlgaddis said mercutio: i hate my irc machine rebooting :)
it doesn't reconnect etc
but yeah for most things i suppose it doesn't matter too mcuh
and for that, i don't really care about duration, i'm more annoyed about a reset at all
i think vmware vmotion is meant to be able to fix those kinds of problems
but cost lots of money
it's one reason i'm hesitant to irc from home ***: raouldlv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) up_the_irons: $ sudo mount /dev/cd0 /mnt
mount: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument
hmm
y u no mount?
(freebsd 9.1)
oh
sudo mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt
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raouldlv has joined #arpnetworks gluffis: mercutio: E4000 machines only had serial console ;) mercutio: well ethernet too
i imagine
which may take longer to show ***: zuppetto has joined #arpnetworks zuppetto: qualcuno parla italiano?
o scrive in italiano? ***: zuppetto has quit IRC (Quit: Di-Gi Loves The Queen Group wWw.Di-Gi.cJb.nEt) plett: gluffis: I remember E250 taking ages and ages before it started booting too gluffis: mercutio: ethernet,scsi and lots of other stuff... but you didn't have any vga ;) ***: anisfarhana has joined #arpnetworks gluffis: plett: E250s are much faster to boot ;) anisfarhana: Hiya everyone. ***: anisfarhana has quit IRC (Quit: bbl)
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lazard has joined #arpnetworks mikeputnam: mercutio: run your irssi inside tmux from your always-up arp host, then just connect to it from whereever you are
then you only go down when freenode splits ;) RandalSchwartz: that's what I do. :)
except I run irc.el inside emacs inside tmux toddf: mikeputnam: the other time you go down is when v6 breaks
I wish so badly that irssi had the ability to do getaddrinfo and just iterate over the AF's instead of favoring v4 only or v6 only and no choice inbetween twobithacker: is there a significant advantage to tmux over screen?
I use mosh to connect to my VM, running irssi in screen toddf: twobithacker: performance and size and license, the fact that it comes by default in openbsd w/out adding extra packages seems to be good for me also mikeputnam: the tmux source is a beautiful thing. just like openbsd. the same cannot be said for screen.
screen has inertia on it's side
just like microsoft software -: mikeputnam makes stuff up ***: twobithacker has quit IRC (Quit: goodbye screen)
twobithacker has joined #arpnetworks brycec: tmux has more features, useful features even like vertical AND horizontal splits
handles multiple sessions+windows like a champ too ***: staticsafe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
staticsafe has joined #arpnetworks mikeputnam: <= and their freenode chan (#tmux) and project web page were done by this handsome fellow
what's not to love!
:p -: brycec ditches tmux post-haste RandalSchwartz: what?
tmux rocks -: brycec was being sarcastic RandalSchwartz: ahh brycec: <3 tmux, alot. RandalSchwartz: and it just keeps getting better
you can't ever get me to go back to screen now brycec: except for that mikeputnam business :p ***: anisfarhana has joined #arpnetworks
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Webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks jlgaddis: At the recommendation of a friend, I tried out tmux one day about a year and a half ago. I haven't used screen since. mercutio: heh i frequently recommend tmux
usually it's when someone loses their shell some time or other ***: mjp has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
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mjp has joined #arpnetworks mikeputnam: i recommend tmux everytime i hear someone mention screen CaZe: fanboi mikeputnam: i'm sure i come off as ...
heh
but i know i'm right
so it's okay cullum: tmux > screen
dat bsd license mercutio: 0 > screen
if you read that out it sounds wrong
nothing is greater than screen staticsafe: :) mercutio: screen < 0 mikeputnam: the absence of value is greater than screen perhaps? mercutio: maybe that's a better way to put it RandalSchwartz: absence of value?
tmux just rocks
people should just ignore screen ***: decourl has joined #arpnetworks phlux: ..
I use tmux
but I don't give a fuck what anyone else uses
because I don't have some false sense of pride or loyalty to my free software. ***: decourl has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
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i don't see how that's relevant ***: decourl has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
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decourl has joined #arpnetworks mikeputnam: to help others to discover tmux's usefulness ***: dzup has joined #arpnetworks dr_jkl: screen > tmux -: dr_jkl runs mercutio: haha
you're not a man who likes to stand behind his words? :)