jlgaddis: oh... jlgaddis: so ESXi isn't Linux based in some way? (I know jack about VMware) kernel is based on linux... Redhat from the beginning as as i know wonder if I shall upgrade my vps to a newer openbsd ;) i would imagine vmware would have some megaraid compatible binary there is pretty good HCL's at vmware but yes, megaraid seems reasonable Well, I think I found a solution, been working on that for a bit... except I just rebooted the physical host and now I can't connect to it. :/ ouch Oh hell, there it comes I swear that was the longest fuckin' reboot ever. jlg: raid controllers always maek reboots take a bit longer jlg: but yeah, esxi does seem to make things complicated, enough so that i just pointed you at what i found rather than trying to understand it :) jlg: some people advocate passing raid controllers through to openindiana, using vt-d, (hardware passthrough) and then exporting storage to esxi which to me seems complicated and messy but you'd have normal cli program in that situation I could ping it for about eight minutes before the vSphere Client would finally connect. oh what i've never seen that Apparently I can manage this LSI card from other hosts once I have this agent/CIM/VIB/WTFever it's called installed. jlg: cool. well if you can get there, up_the_irons seems to know what command to do to accomplish what you're trying to accomplish which in itself is a nightmare including serial? i like it how computers are finally getting faster at booting though like the new motherboards most of them boot really quickly for desktops now haven't seen a quick server bootup yet, but i'ms ure it'll come... it's kind of bizzare that it seems to have never been a selling point of servers any time recently that they boot quickly cos when things are meant to run 24/7 the boottime can be a real pita and failover is complicated Well, when you only reboot them once a year or two, a few minutes difference doesn't really matter. if people are using services on them it still sucks but yeah they shouldn't reboot :) there's also things like linux doesn't do parallel scans by default well not on ahci you have to pass some ahci_disable_sss or something parameter for something that doesn't get rebooted often, a few minutes doesn't matter, like jlgaddis said i hate my irc machine rebooting :) it doesn't reconnect etc but yeah for most things i suppose it doesn't matter too mcuh and for that, i don't really care about duration, i'm more annoyed about a reset at all i think vmware vmotion is meant to be able to fix those kinds of problems but cost lots of money it's one reason i'm hesitant to irc from home $ sudo mount /dev/cd0 /mnt mount: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument hmm y u no mount? (freebsd 9.1) oh sudo mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt works mercutio: E4000 machines only had serial console ;) well ethernet too i imagine which may take longer to show qualcuno parla italiano? o scrive in italiano? gluffis: I remember E250 taking ages and ages before it started booting too mercutio: ethernet,scsi and lots of other stuff... but you didn't have any vga ;) plett: E250s are much faster to boot ;) Hiya everyone. mercutio: run your irssi inside tmux from your always-up arp host, then just connect to it from whereever you are then you only go down when freenode splits ;) that's what I do. :) except I run irc.el inside emacs inside tmux mikeputnam: the other time you go down is when v6 breaks I wish so badly that irssi had the ability to do getaddrinfo and just iterate over the AF's instead of favoring v4 only or v6 only and no choice inbetween is there a significant advantage to tmux over screen? I use mosh to connect to my VM, running irssi in screen twobithacker: performance and size and license, the fact that it comes by default in openbsd w/out adding extra packages seems to be good for me also the tmux source is a beautiful thing. just like openbsd. the same cannot be said for screen. screen has inertia on it's side just like microsoft software tmux has more features, useful features even like vertical AND horizontal splits handles multiple sessions+windows like a champ too <= and their freenode chan (#tmux) and project web page were done by this handsome fellow what's not to love! :p what? tmux rocks ahh <3 tmux, alot. and it just keeps getting better you can't ever get me to go back to screen now except for that mikeputnam business :p At the recommendation of a friend, I tried out tmux one day about a year and a half ago. I haven't used screen since. heh i frequently recommend tmux usually it's when someone loses their shell some time or other i recommend tmux everytime i hear someone mention screen fanboi i'm sure i come off as ... heh but i know i'm right so it's okay tmux > screen dat bsd license 0 > screen if you read that out it sounds wrong nothing is greater than screen :) screen < 0 the absence of value is greater than screen perhaps? maybe that's a better way to put it absence of value? tmux just rocks people should just ignore screen .. I use tmux but I don't give a fuck what anyone else uses because I don't have some false sense of pride or loyalty to my free software. anti fanboi ^ phlux: it's useful though :) hence why i use it i don't see how that's relevant to help others to discover tmux's usefulness screen > tmux haha you're not a man who likes to stand behind his words? :)