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| up_the_irons | jlgaddis: oh...
jlgaddis: so ESXi isn't Linux based in some way? (I know jack about VMware) | [00:00] |
| gluffis | kernel is based on linux... Redhat from the beginning as as i know
wonder if I shall upgrade my vps to a newer openbsd ;) | [00:01] |
| up_the_irons | i would imagine vmware would have some megaraid compatible binary | [00:01] |
| gluffis | there is pretty good HCL's at vmware
but yes, megaraid seems reasonable | [00:02] |
| jlgaddis | Well, I think I found a solution, been working on that for a bit... except I just rebooted the physical host and now I can't connect to it. :/ | [00:03] |
| up_the_irons | ouch | [00:03] |
| jlgaddis | Oh hell, there it comes
I swear that was the longest fuckin' reboot ever. | [00:03] |
| mercutio | jlg: raid controllers always maek reboots take a bit longer
jlg: but yeah, esxi does seem to make things complicated, enough so that i just pointed you at what i found rather than trying to understand it :) jlg: some people advocate passing raid controllers through to openindiana, using vt-d, (hardware passthrough) and then exporting storage to esxi which to me seems complicated and messy but you'd have normal cli program in that situation | [00:04] |
| jlgaddis | I could ping it for about eight minutes before the vSphere Client would finally connect. | [00:07] |
| mercutio | oh what
i've never seen that | [00:07] |
| jlgaddis | Apparently I can manage this LSI card from other hosts once I have this agent/CIM/VIB/WTFever it's called installed. | [00:08] |
| mercutio | jlg: cool. well if you can get there, up_the_irons seems to know what command to do to accomplish what you're trying to accomplish
which in itself is a nightmare | [00:08] |
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| gluffis | gluffis remembers the first reboot of a Sun E4000... 15 minutes before anything on the console... | [00:30] |
| mercutio | including serial?
i like it how computers are finally getting faster at booting though like the new motherboards most of them boot really quickly for desktops now haven't seen a quick server bootup yet, but i'ms ure it'll come... it's kind of bizzare that it seems to have never been a selling point of servers any time recently that they boot quickly cos when things are meant to run 24/7 the boottime can be a real pita and failover is complicated | [00:33] |
| jlgaddis | Well, when you only reboot them once a year or two, a few minutes difference doesn't really matter. | [00:43] |
| mercutio | if people are using services on them it still sucks
but yeah they shouldn't reboot :) there's also things like linux doesn't do parallel scans by default well not on ahci you have to pass some ahci_disable_sss or something parameter | [00:43] |
| up_the_irons | for something that doesn't get rebooted often, a few minutes doesn't matter, like jlgaddis said | [00:47] |
| mercutio | i hate my irc machine rebooting :)
it doesn't reconnect etc but yeah for most things i suppose it doesn't matter too mcuh and for that, i don't really care about duration, i'm more annoyed about a reset at all i think vmware vmotion is meant to be able to fix those kinds of problems but cost lots of money it's one reason i'm hesitant to irc from home | [00:48] |
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| up_the_irons | $ sudo mount /dev/cd0 /mnt
mount: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument hmm y u no mount? (freebsd 9.1) oh sudo mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt works | [01:32] |
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| gluffis | mercutio: E4000 machines only had serial console ;) | [02:26] |
| mercutio | well ethernet too
i imagine which may take longer to show | [02:29] |
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| zuppetto | qualcuno parla italiano?
o scrive in italiano? | [02:38] |
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| plett | gluffis: I remember E250 taking ages and ages before it started booting too | [03:04] |
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| gluffis | mercutio: ethernet,scsi and lots of other stuff... but you didn't have any vga ;) | [03:38] |
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| gluffis | plett: E250s are much faster to boot ;) | [03:47] |
| anisfarhana | Hiya everyone. | [03:48] |
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| mikeputnam | mercutio: run your irssi inside tmux from your always-up arp host, then just connect to it from whereever you are
then you only go down when freenode splits ;) | [08:01] |
| RandalSchwartz | that's what I do. :)
except I run irc.el inside emacs inside tmux | [08:04] |
| toddf | mikeputnam: the other time you go down is when v6 breaks
I wish so badly that irssi had the ability to do getaddrinfo and just iterate over the AF's instead of favoring v4 only or v6 only and no choice inbetween | [08:09] |
| twobithacker | is there a significant advantage to tmux over screen?
I use mosh to connect to my VM, running irssi in screen | [08:09] |
| toddf | twobithacker: performance and size and license, the fact that it comes by default in openbsd w/out adding extra packages seems to be good for me also | [08:10] |
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| mikeputnam | the tmux source is a beautiful thing. just like openbsd. the same cannot be said for screen.
screen has inertia on it's side just like microsoft software mikeputnam makes stuff up | [08:33] |
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| brycec | tmux has more features, useful features even like vertical AND horizontal splits
handles multiple sessions+windows like a champ too | [09:34] |
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| mikeputnam | <= and their freenode chan (#tmux) and project web page were done by this handsome fellow
what's not to love! :p | [09:56] |
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| RandalSchwartz | what?
tmux rocks | [10:12] |
| brycec | brycec was being sarcastic | [10:12] |
| RandalSchwartz | ahh | [10:12] |
| brycec | <3 tmux, alot. | [10:12] |
| RandalSchwartz | and it just keeps getting better
you can't ever get me to go back to screen now | [10:12] |
| brycec | except for that mikeputnam business :p | [10:13] |
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| jlgaddis | At the recommendation of a friend, I tried out tmux one day about a year and a half ago. I haven't used screen since. | [18:35] |
| mercutio | heh i frequently recommend tmux
usually it's when someone loses their shell some time or other | [18:42] |
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| mikeputnam | i recommend tmux everytime i hear someone mention screen | [20:02] |
| CaZe | fanboi | [20:02] |
| mikeputnam | i'm sure i come off as ...
heh but i know i'm right so it's okay | [20:02] |
| cullum | tmux > screen
dat bsd license | [20:05] |
| mercutio | 0 > screen
if you read that out it sounds wrong nothing is greater than screen | [20:07] |
| staticsafe | :) | [20:09] |
| mercutio | screen < 0 | [20:09] |
| mikeputnam | the absence of value is greater than screen perhaps? | [20:09] |
| mercutio | maybe that's a better way to put it | [20:09] |
| RandalSchwartz | absence of value?
tmux just rocks people should just ignore screen | [20:14] |
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| phlux | ..
I use tmux but I don't give a fuck what anyone else uses because I don't have some false sense of pride or loyalty to my free software. | [20:34] |
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| CaZe | anti fanboi | [21:03] |
| phlux | ^ | [21:05] |
| mercutio | phlux: it's useful though :) | [21:11] |
| phlux | hence why i use it
i don't see how that's relevant | [21:11] |
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| mikeputnam | to help others to discover tmux's usefulness | [21:24] |
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| dr_jkl | screen > tmux
dr_jkl runs | [22:58] |
| mercutio | haha
you're not a man who likes to stand behind his words? :) | [22:58] |
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