[00:00] jlgaddis: oh... [00:00] jlgaddis: so ESXi isn't Linux based in some way? (I know jack about VMware) [00:01] kernel is based on linux... Redhat from the beginning as as i know [00:01] wonder if I shall upgrade my vps to a newer openbsd ;) [00:01] i would imagine vmware would have some megaraid compatible binary [00:02] there is pretty good HCL's at vmware [00:02] but yes, megaraid seems reasonable [00:03] Well, I think I found a solution, been working on that for a bit... except I just rebooted the physical host and now I can't connect to it. :/ [00:03] ouch [00:03] Oh hell, there it comes [00:03] I swear that was the longest fuckin' reboot ever. [00:04] jlg: raid controllers always maek reboots take a bit longer [00:05] jlg: but yeah, esxi does seem to make things complicated, enough so that i just pointed you at what i found rather than trying to understand it :) [00:06] jlg: some people advocate passing raid controllers through to openindiana, using vt-d, (hardware passthrough) and then exporting storage to esxi [00:06] which to me seems complicated and messy [00:06] but you'd have normal cli program in that situation [00:07] I could ping it for about eight minutes before the vSphere Client would finally connect. [00:07] oh what [00:07] i've never seen that [00:08] Apparently I can manage this LSI card from other hosts once I have this agent/CIM/VIB/WTFever it's called installed. [00:08] jlg: cool. well if you can get there, up_the_irons seems to know what command to do to accomplish what you're trying to accomplish [00:08] which in itself is a nightmare [00:30] * gluffis remembers the first reboot of a Sun E4000... 15 minutes before anything on the console... [00:33] including serial? [00:35] i like it how computers are finally getting faster at booting though [00:35] like the new motherboards most of them boot really quickly for desktops now [00:36] haven't seen a quick server bootup yet, but i'ms ure it'll come... [00:37] it's kind of bizzare that it seems to have never been a selling point of servers any time recently that they boot quickly [00:37] cos when things are meant to run 24/7 [00:37] the boottime can be a real pita [00:37] and failover is complicated [00:43] Well, when you only reboot them once a year or two, a few minutes difference doesn't really matter. [00:43] if people are using services on them it still sucks [00:43] but yeah they shouldn't reboot :) [00:44] there's also things like linux doesn't do parallel scans by default [00:44] well not on ahci [00:45] you have to pass some ahci_disable_sss or something parameter [00:47] for something that doesn't get rebooted often, a few minutes doesn't matter, like jlgaddis said [00:48] i hate my irc machine rebooting :) [00:48] it doesn't reconnect etc [00:49] but yeah for most things i suppose it doesn't matter too mcuh [00:49] and for that, i don't really care about duration, i'm more annoyed about a reset at all [00:49] i think vmware vmotion is meant to be able to fix those kinds of problems [00:49] but cost lots of money [00:51] it's one reason i'm hesitant to irc from home [01:06] *** raouldlv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:32] $ sudo mount /dev/cd0 /mnt [01:32] mount: /dev/cd0: Invalid argument [01:32] hmm [01:32] y u no mount? [01:32] (freebsd 9.1) [01:35] oh [01:35] sudo mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt [01:35] works [01:36] *** lazard` has joined #arpnetworks [01:42] *** lazard has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:42] *** anisfarhana has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:42] *** alexstanford8 has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [01:56] *** raouldlv has joined #arpnetworks [01:56] *** raouldlv has quit IRC (Changing host) [01:56] *** raouldlv has joined #arpnetworks [02:26] mercutio: E4000 machines only had serial console ;) [02:29] well ethernet too [02:29] i imagine [02:29] which may take longer to show [02:38] *** zuppetto has joined #arpnetworks [02:38] qualcuno parla italiano? [02:39] o scrive in italiano? [02:55] *** zuppetto has quit IRC (Quit: Di-Gi Loves The Queen Group wWw.Di-Gi.cJb.nEt) [03:04] gluffis: I remember E250 taking ages and ages before it started booting too [03:38] mercutio: ethernet,scsi and lots of other stuff... but you didn't have any vga ;) [03:46] *** anisfarhana has joined #arpnetworks [03:47] plett: E250s are much faster to boot ;) [03:48] Hiya everyone. [03:59] *** anisfarhana has quit IRC (Quit: bbl) [04:31] *** ska has joined #arpnetworks [04:31] *** ska has quit IRC (Changing host) [04:31] *** ska has joined #arpnetworks [05:16] *** scottschecter has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2) [05:21] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [05:21] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Changing host) [05:21] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [07:11] *** dzup has joined #arpnetworks [07:27] *** lazard` is now known as lazard [07:28] *** lazard has quit IRC (Changing host) [07:28] *** lazard has joined #arpnetworks [08:01] mercutio: run your irssi inside tmux from your always-up arp host, then just connect to it from whereever you are [08:03] then you only go down when freenode splits ;) [08:04] that's what I do. :) [08:05] except I run irc.el inside emacs inside tmux [08:09] mikeputnam: the other time you go down is when v6 breaks [08:09] I wish so badly that irssi had the ability to do getaddrinfo and just iterate over the AF's instead of favoring v4 only or v6 only and no choice inbetween [08:09] is there a significant advantage to tmux over screen? [08:10] I use mosh to connect to my VM, running irssi in screen [08:10] twobithacker: performance and size and license, the fact that it comes by default in openbsd w/out adding extra packages seems to be good for me also [08:33] the tmux source is a beautiful thing. just like openbsd. the same cannot be said for screen. [08:33] screen has inertia on it's side [08:34] just like microsoft software [08:34] * mikeputnam makes stuff up [08:51] *** twobithacker has quit IRC (Quit: goodbye screen) [08:55] *** twobithacker has joined #arpnetworks [09:34] tmux has more features, useful features even like vertical AND horizontal splits [09:34] handles multiple sessions+windows like a champ too [09:41] *** staticsafe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [09:51] *** staticsafe has joined #arpnetworks [09:56] <= and their freenode chan (#tmux) and project web page were done by this handsome fellow [09:56] what's not to love! [09:56] :p [10:12] * brycec ditches tmux post-haste [10:12] what? [10:12] tmux rocks [10:12] * brycec was being sarcastic [10:12] ahh [10:12] <3 tmux, alot. [10:12] and it just keeps getting better [10:13] you can't ever get me to go back to screen now [10:13] except for that mikeputnam business :p [10:46] *** anisfarhana has joined #arpnetworks [11:05] *** Guest60966 is now known as pjs [11:57] *** anisfarhana has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [14:15] *** scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks [14:22] *** scottschecter has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2) [14:24] *** scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks [15:17] *** scottschecter has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2) [16:09] *** ix33 has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9-rc2) [16:34] *** ska has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:47] *** ska has joined #arpnetworks [18:16] *** Webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks [18:35] At the recommendation of a friend, I tried out tmux one day about a year and a half ago. I haven't used screen since. [18:42] heh i frequently recommend tmux [18:42] usually it's when someone loses their shell some time or other [19:34] *** mjp has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [19:37] *** scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks [19:42] *** mjp has joined #arpnetworks [20:02] i recommend tmux everytime i hear someone mention screen [20:02] fanboi [20:02] i'm sure i come off as ... [20:02] heh [20:03] but i know i'm right [20:03] so it's okay [20:05] tmux > screen [20:05] dat bsd license [20:07] 0 > screen [20:09] if you read that out it sounds wrong [20:09] nothing is greater than screen [20:09] :) [20:09] screen < 0 [20:09] the absence of value is greater than screen perhaps? [20:09] maybe that's a better way to put it [20:14] absence of value? [20:14] tmux just rocks [20:14] people should just ignore screen [20:18] *** decourl has joined #arpnetworks [20:34] .. [20:34] I use tmux [20:34] but I don't give a fuck what anyone else uses [20:35] because I don't have some false sense of pride or loyalty to my free software. [20:45] *** decourl has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [20:47] *** decourl has joined #arpnetworks [21:03] anti fanboi [21:05] ^ [21:11] phlux: it's useful though :) [21:11] hence why i use it [21:12] i don't see how that's relevant [21:21] *** decourl has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [21:21] *** dzup has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:22] *** decourl has joined #arpnetworks [21:24] to help others to discover tmux's usefulness [21:34] *** dzup has joined #arpnetworks [22:58] screen > tmux [22:58] * dr_jkl runs [22:58] haha [22:58] you're not a man who likes to stand behind his words? :)