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So it is not valid then? brycec: anisfarhana: it would be face:b00c anisfarhana: Ah got it :)
Thanks Mr. brycec brycec: technically denoted as ::face:b00c, the :: is shorthand for "however many 0's as there are supposed to be", in this case :0000:0000:face:b00c
(note that your prefix, the 2607:f2f8:xxxx: goes in front of that, resulting in the full address 2607:f2f8:xxxx::face:b00c or 2607:f2f8:xxxx:0000:0000:face:b00c
(2607:f2f8 is the /32 for ARP networks, and the xxxx is customer-specific)
And hopefully all of that didn't re-confuse you anisfarhana: Ok ok hang on there.
I re-read your message 3 times now
Ha ha ha
Ah so we can't change that xxxx ? brycec: anisfarhana: only if you asked for a new IPv6 address range anisfarhana: brycec: And i cannot use it to replace with some fancy host?
2607:f2f8:dead for example. brycec: You've only been given a /64, you can only make 64bits of the address "yours" -: anisfarhana nods brycec: (granted, 64 bits is HALF of the entire address) anisfarhana: It would be cool if xxxx can be replace with dead and so on.
But now i can bind the domain and do the rDNS like..unlimited!
v6 is crazy brycec: well it would be cool if I could use 199 instead of 127 for loopback, but I cannot :P anisfarhana: brycec: You are being sarcastic with me sir :D brycec: I was being analogous anisfarhana: Thank you for the knowledge.
thumbs up!
brycec: Too bad our ISP still do not implementing yet the v6 :/ brycec: too bad indeed... but relatively few ISPs have anisfarhana: Uhff..got few invoices from domain provider asking for the payment :/ ***: seancody has quit IRC (Quit: seancody) anisfarhana: brycec: bind a domain to v6 still need valid domain extension? ***: [FBI] starts logging #arpnetworks at Mon Jan 07 04:16:39 2013
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Now i am scared to talk. -: anisfarhana ducks ant: anisfarhana: anything you say may be used against you in court ;) anisfarhana: ant: That is the problem :/
ant: My stupid questions also will be online and available to the public after this.
Ughhhhf.. mike-burns: Welcome to the future! up_the_irons: In a public IRC channel on a public IRC server (Freenode), one should never assume their conversation is private
anisfarhana: your questions may help someone else in the future mike-burns: On the Internet, no one can tell that you're a cat. anisfarhana: mike-burns: I don't see any cat yet know how to irc'ing :D ***: scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks
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er, I mean my whiskey ***: seancody has joined #arpnetworks
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toddf: one is fine. where is it? toddf: you read html pages right? belopa: toddf: em.. yes i do
toddf: do you have any particular suggestion of one i could read? =) toddf: everytime this question is asked there is a page people are pointed to. sorry I'm not finding it myself, somewhere in california is the best my memory can do brycec: belopa: the DC is in Los Angeles, California
And there hasn't been an unexpected reboot/crash for as long as I've been a customer
(at least, not one I've known about) milki: depends on which tower you are on
:P belopa: aha ok milki: there was that rack failure a couple months ago toddf: belopa: wrt maint history, see @arpnetworks on twitter, pretty open book belopa: ok
aha, nothing in Europe right now. would be nice if it was. milki: kvr25 according to twitter belopa: though maybe the quality level you work at would not allow anything else than using your own facility, and thus would make it too much of a hassle to extend there toddf: and the question you're not asking is .. do we like the service. hands down yes. I've one client using them, I use them with 3 vps's for my own business, and trying to talk another client into moving (because it would be better for them, now convincing them to change is the hard part *grin*) brycec: I also vote for ARP toddf: make no mistake, up_the_irons is the only actual paid person here, the rest of us are all happy customers chatting up the interwebs at times
thats in the topic, but anyway RandalSchwartz: I've had two noisy neighbors in 4 years on 5 boxes
not bad
oh - and one unexpected reboot belopa: ok. yes it sounds all great. good to keep in mind for a US VPS. right now i need sth in Europe though toddf: I can't recall how many years I've been with arpnetworks. its been a while. when my other colo and business office were scrapped I moved anything critical to arpnetworks .. belopa: do you have any OpenBSD-supporting hosting in Europe to recommend? toddf: you should look at the peering .. is there a reason you need it in europe other than pingtimes that might be better than you expect? RandalSchwartz: I'm using elastichosts as the europe backup belopa: randalschwartz: for openbsd? RandalSchwartz: well - the "non-ARP" backup
no - but they can run any image you ship
just like ARP
similar setup... you get a VNC console and a serial console
downside is the vnc console is *not* encrypted
so you have to tunnel if you want the same security belopa: toddf: pingtimes primarily but also it's simply european, it should be in europe. mercutio: i vote arp start uk location :)
not that i see it as likely to happen :) RandalSchwartz: there isn't enough up_the_irons to go around :)
he needs to touch the machines staticsafe: indeed
and hug them ;) RandalSchwartz: and replace the magic smoke when it gets let out plett: I use bitfolk.com in London as my main VPS, and ARP is a backup on a different continent for me as I'm from .uk
They only really do Linux VPSs though, not BSD staticsafe: Linode++ for UK (linux only ofc)
sup with FreeBSD pv xen support anyways? mercutio: i'd imagine he'd need someone else to do uk stuff
but the model seems to work ***: scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks
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i use to grep even with cygwin lol up_the_irons: hah staticsafe: grep <3 grep0r: where are your servers located btw?i think price could be better but i'm not sure depends quality etc staticsafe: LA
Los Angeles, USA to be less cryptic grep0r: speed even with gr was really good tbh gave a 100MB test mercutio: grep0r: they're not using cogent :)
it'd probably be cheaper if they used cogent grep0r: yes that's why i said about quality mercutio: i've found the routing to be mostly fine
and it's meant to improve soon :) staticsafe: :o
http://bgp.he.net/AS25795#_peers up_the_irons: and that's the small list
complete list is here: http://arpnetworks.com/peering staticsafe: :o mercutio: up_the_irons: any plans to peer at equinix? ***: destro_ has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: oh they can do ports at 1 wilshire as well ***: grep0r has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) staticsafe: up_the_irons: don't quite understand BGP completely but why is the HE list and yours different? mercutio: staticsafe: he.net don't see routes from everyone probably
like if data doesn't leak out to he.net how can they know about it? staticsafe: really need to pickup that BGP book sometime mercutio: bgp book won't tell you that :)
well prob not
you never know :) ***: destro_ is now known as grep0r up_the_irons: mercutio: no plans at equinix, too expensive
staticsafe: HE can't know all peers of a particular network, only that network can. They probably just show what they see from their side using netflow / sflow or something, but that won't be everything (or near it) staticsafe: ah ok mercutio: ahh
up_the_irons: i had no idea about cost
i did have the feeling it was more expensive than coresite htough
though ***: grep0r has left up_the_irons: mercutio: equinix is highest cost of everyone; they think they are special or something ***: scottschecter has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2) mercutio: up_the_irons: so more than transit? ***: scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks
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dzup has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: mercutio: cross connects, rackspace, etc... plus peering network pricing. all adds up mercutio: oh
cross connect i understand
you wouldn't need rackspace though would you?
but yeah i understand it's only a few more networks to access probably up_the_irons: mercutio: you would need some gear there unless you can find a provider to give you a vlan into it mercutio: ahh ***: HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks
anisfarhana has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) mercutio: does anyone know anything about dnssec? jbergstroem: up_the_irons: whats the cost difference up to equinix, roughly? mnathani: mercutio: I know its Windows related, but it does go over some basic DNSSEC http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/TechEd/NorthAmerica/2012/WSV325 mercutio: i'm wondering about performance impact of resolvers
and whether anyone actually uses it mnathani: I have it turned on for one of my domains mercutio: unbound seems to support it simply now days mnathani: running Bind mercutio: i meant from resolving pov mnathani: you mean recursive / validating dns servers mercutio: recursive yes
i'm helping someone with recursive dns
and his dns seems a little slow mnathani: I would think additional load would be placed to validate signed responses mercutio: and i'm trying to determine if dnssec is slowing things down
but it's better right? :) mnathani: you could disable DNSSEC validation for a short period to see if it gets any faster mercutio: i wonder if you can change dnssec lots or something
yeh i juset set things up
so don't have enough to compare against yet really
i'm just prematurely trying to learn more about it :)
at the same time i realise i've kind of ignored it
oh it's way more cpu at 500qps+
i think he's doing like 100 qps though ***: nixbag has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
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