anisfarhana: FYI you get a /64, which means you get 4 blocks of XXXX each (because /64 means you get 64 bits of address space), so you can have feed:dead:beef:cafe brycec: faceb00c works So it is not valid then? anisfarhana: it would be face:b00c Ah got it :) Thanks Mr. brycec technically denoted as ::face:b00c, the :: is shorthand for "however many 0's as there are supposed to be", in this case :0000:0000:face:b00c (note that your prefix, the 2607:f2f8:xxxx: goes in front of that, resulting in the full address 2607:f2f8:xxxx::face:b00c or 2607:f2f8:xxxx:0000:0000:face:b00c (2607:f2f8 is the /32 for ARP networks, and the xxxx is customer-specific) And hopefully all of that didn't re-confuse you Ok ok hang on there. I re-read your message 3 times now Ha ha ha Ah so we can't change that xxxx ? anisfarhana: only if you asked for a new IPv6 address range brycec: And i cannot use it to replace with some fancy host? 2607:f2f8:dead for example. You've only been given a /64, you can only make 64bits of the address "yours" (granted, 64 bits is HALF of the entire address) It would be cool if xxxx can be replace with dead and so on. But now i can bind the domain and do the rDNS like..unlimited! v6 is crazy well it would be cool if I could use 199 instead of 127 for loopback, but I cannot :P brycec: You are being sarcastic with me sir :D I was being analogous Thank you for the knowledge. thumbs up! brycec: Too bad our ISP still do not implementing yet the v6 :/ too bad indeed... but relatively few ISPs have Uhff..got few invoices from domain provider asking for the payment :/ brycec: bind a domain to v6 still need valid domain extension? What is that?? it's [FBI] , he's quiet CIA FBI and so on. Now i am scared to talk. anisfarhana: anything you say may be used against you in court ;) ant: That is the problem :/ ant: My stupid questions also will be online and available to the public after this. Ughhhhf.. Welcome to the future! In a public IRC channel on a public IRC server (Freenode), one should never assume their conversation is private anisfarhana: your questions may help someone else in the future On the Internet, no one can tell that you're a cat. mike-burns: I don't see any cat yet know how to irc'ing :D mike-burns: shutup and let me enjoy my catnip in peace er, I mean my whiskey lol any Europe datacenter? only one at this time. and.. when was last unexpected reboot of a VPS? =) toddf: one is fine. where is it? you read html pages right? toddf: em.. yes i do toddf: do you have any particular suggestion of one i could read? =) everytime this question is asked there is a page people are pointed to. sorry I'm not finding it myself, somewhere in california is the best my memory can do belopa: the DC is in Los Angeles, California And there hasn't been an unexpected reboot/crash for as long as I've been a customer (at least, not one I've known about) depends on which tower you are on :P aha ok there was that rack failure a couple months ago belopa: wrt maint history, see @arpnetworks on twitter, pretty open book ok aha, nothing in Europe right now. would be nice if it was. kvr25 according to twitter though maybe the quality level you work at would not allow anything else than using your own facility, and thus would make it too much of a hassle to extend there and the question you're not asking is .. do we like the service. hands down yes. I've one client using them, I use them with 3 vps's for my own business, and trying to talk another client into moving (because it would be better for them, now convincing them to change is the hard part *grin*) I also vote for ARP make no mistake, up_the_irons is the only actual paid person here, the rest of us are all happy customers chatting up the interwebs at times thats in the topic, but anyway I've had two noisy neighbors in 4 years on 5 boxes not bad oh - and one unexpected reboot ok. yes it sounds all great. good to keep in mind for a US VPS. right now i need sth in Europe though I can't recall how many years I've been with arpnetworks. its been a while. when my other colo and business office were scrapped I moved anything critical to arpnetworks .. do you have any OpenBSD-supporting hosting in Europe to recommend? you should look at the peering .. is there a reason you need it in europe other than pingtimes that might be better than you expect? I'm using elastichosts as the europe backup randalschwartz: for openbsd? well - the "non-ARP" backup no - but they can run any image you ship just like ARP similar setup... you get a VNC console and a serial console downside is the vnc console is *not* encrypted so you have to tunnel if you want the same security toddf: pingtimes primarily but also it's simply european, it should be in europe. i vote arp start uk location :) not that i see it as likely to happen :) there isn't enough up_the_irons to go around :) he needs to touch the machines indeed and hug them ;) and replace the magic smoke when it gets let out I use bitfolk.com in London as my main VPS, and ARP is a backup on a different continent for me as I'm from .uk They only really do Linux VPSs though, not BSD Linode++ for UK (linux only ofc) sup with FreeBSD pv xen support anyways? i'd imagine he'd need someone else to do uk stuff but the model seems to work not enough of me to go around, that's what all the girls say lol grep0r: nice nick up_the_irons thx i use to grep even with cygwin lol hah grep <3 where are your servers located btw?i think price could be better but i'm not sure depends quality etc LA Los Angeles, USA to be less cryptic speed even with gr was really good tbh gave a 100MB test grep0r: they're not using cogent :) it'd probably be cheaper if they used cogent yes that's why i said about quality i've found the routing to be mostly fine and it's meant to improve soon :) :o http://bgp.he.net/AS25795#_peers and that's the small list complete list is here: http://arpnetworks.com/peering :o up_the_irons: any plans to peer at equinix? oh they can do ports at 1 wilshire as well up_the_irons: don't quite understand BGP completely but why is the HE list and yours different? staticsafe: he.net don't see routes from everyone probably like if data doesn't leak out to he.net how can they know about it? really need to pickup that BGP book sometime bgp book won't tell you that :) well prob not you never know :) mercutio: no plans at equinix, too expensive staticsafe: HE can't know all peers of a particular network, only that network can. They probably just show what they see from their side using netflow / sflow or something, but that won't be everything (or near it) ah ok ahh up_the_irons: i had no idea about cost i did have the feeling it was more expensive than coresite htough though mercutio: equinix is highest cost of everyone; they think they are special or something up_the_irons: so more than transit? mercutio: cross connects, rackspace, etc... plus peering network pricing. all adds up oh cross connect i understand you wouldn't need rackspace though would you? but yeah i understand it's only a few more networks to access probably mercutio: you would need some gear there unless you can find a provider to give you a vlan into it ahh does anyone know anything about dnssec? up_the_irons: whats the cost difference up to equinix, roughly? mercutio: I know its Windows related, but it does go over some basic DNSSEC http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/TechEd/NorthAmerica/2012/WSV325 i'm wondering about performance impact of resolvers and whether anyone actually uses it I have it turned on for one of my domains unbound seems to support it simply now days running Bind i meant from resolving pov you mean recursive / validating dns servers recursive yes i'm helping someone with recursive dns and his dns seems a little slow I would think additional load would be placed to validate signed responses and i'm trying to determine if dnssec is slowing things down but it's better right? :) you could disable DNSSEC validation for a short period to see if it gets any faster i wonder if you can change dnssec lots or something yeh i juset set things up so don't have enough to compare against yet really i'm just prematurely trying to learn more about it :) at the same time i realise i've kind of ignored it oh it's way more cpu at 500qps+ i think he's doing like 100 qps though