[00:01] *** meingtsla has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [00:04] *** meingtsla has joined #arpnetworks [00:09] *** morphRx has left "Leaving..." [00:32] anisfarhana: FYI you get a /64, which means you get 4 blocks of XXXX each (because /64 means you get 64 bits of address space), so you can have feed:dead:beef:cafe [00:33] brycec: faceb00c works [00:33] So it is not valid then? [00:33] anisfarhana: it would be face:b00c [00:33] Ah got it :) [00:33] Thanks Mr. brycec [00:34] technically denoted as ::face:b00c, the :: is shorthand for "however many 0's as there are supposed to be", in this case :0000:0000:face:b00c [00:35] (note that your prefix, the 2607:f2f8:xxxx: goes in front of that, resulting in the full address 2607:f2f8:xxxx::face:b00c or 2607:f2f8:xxxx:0000:0000:face:b00c [00:36] (2607:f2f8 is the /32 for ARP networks, and the xxxx is customer-specific) [00:36] And hopefully all of that didn't re-confuse you [00:39] Ok ok hang on there. [00:39] I re-read your message 3 times now [00:39] Ha ha ha [00:39] Ah so we can't change that xxxx ? [00:40] anisfarhana: only if you asked for a new IPv6 address range [00:40] brycec: And i cannot use it to replace with some fancy host? [00:41] 2607:f2f8:dead for example. [00:41] You've only been given a /64, you can only make 64bits of the address "yours" [00:41] * anisfarhana nods [00:41] (granted, 64 bits is HALF of the entire address) [00:41] It would be cool if xxxx can be replace with dead and so on. [00:42] But now i can bind the domain and do the rDNS like..unlimited! [00:42] v6 is crazy [00:42] well it would be cool if I could use 199 instead of 127 for loopback, but I cannot :P [00:43] brycec: You are being sarcastic with me sir :D [00:43] I was being analogous [00:43] Thank you for the knowledge. [00:43] thumbs up! [00:47] brycec: Too bad our ISP still do not implementing yet the v6 :/ [00:48] too bad indeed... but relatively few ISPs have [00:58] Uhff..got few invoices from domain provider asking for the payment :/ [01:34] *** seancody has quit IRC (Quit: seancody) [02:37] brycec: bind a domain to v6 still need valid domain extension? [04:16] *** [FBI] starts logging #arpnetworks at Mon Jan 07 04:16:39 2013 [04:16] *** [FBI] has joined #arpnetworks [04:17] What is that?? [04:18] it's [FBI] , he's quiet [04:19] CIA FBI and so on. [04:19] Now i am scared to talk. [04:19] * anisfarhana ducks [04:19] anisfarhana: anything you say may be used against you in court ;) [04:21] ant: That is the problem :/ [04:21] ant: My stupid questions also will be online and available to the public after this. [04:21] Ughhhhf.. [04:24] Welcome to the future! [04:30] In a public IRC channel on a public IRC server (Freenode), one should never assume their conversation is private [04:30] anisfarhana: your questions may help someone else in the future [04:34] On the Internet, no one can tell that you're a cat. [04:39] mike-burns: I don't see any cat yet know how to irc'ing :D [05:13] *** scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks [05:31] *** anisfarhana has quit IRC (Quit: bye for now) [06:28] *** scottschecter has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:17] mike-burns: shutup and let me enjoy my catnip in peace [07:17] er, I mean my whiskey [07:19] *** seancody has joined #arpnetworks [07:21] *** qbit has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:25] *** seancody has quit IRC (Quit: seancody) [07:40] *** anisfarhana has joined #arpnetworks [07:46] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [07:46] *** qbit has quit IRC (Client Quit) [07:47] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [07:47] *** qbit has quit IRC (Client Quit) [07:47] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [07:47] *** qbit has quit IRC (Client Quit) [07:48] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [08:50] *** porkstone has joined #arpnetworks [09:45] lol [10:46] *** Guest62302 is now known as pjs [11:59] *** belopa has joined #arpnetworks [11:59] any Europe datacenter? [11:59] only one at this time. [11:59] and.. when was last unexpected reboot of a VPS? =) [11:59] toddf: one is fine. where is it? [11:59] you read html pages right? [12:01] toddf: em.. yes i do [12:01] toddf: do you have any particular suggestion of one i could read? =) [12:02] everytime this question is asked there is a page people are pointed to. sorry I'm not finding it myself, somewhere in california is the best my memory can do [12:04] belopa: the DC is in Los Angeles, California [12:04] And there hasn't been an unexpected reboot/crash for as long as I've been a customer [12:04] (at least, not one I've known about) [12:04] depends on which tower you are on [12:04] :P [12:04] aha ok [12:04] there was that rack failure a couple months ago [12:05] belopa: wrt maint history, see @arpnetworks on twitter, pretty open book [12:05] ok [12:05] aha, nothing in Europe right now. would be nice if it was. [12:05] kvr25 according to twitter [12:06] though maybe the quality level you work at would not allow anything else than using your own facility, and thus would make it too much of a hassle to extend there [12:06] and the question you're not asking is .. do we like the service. hands down yes. I've one client using them, I use them with 3 vps's for my own business, and trying to talk another client into moving (because it would be better for them, now convincing them to change is the hard part *grin*) [12:07] I also vote for ARP [12:07] make no mistake, up_the_irons is the only actual paid person here, the rest of us are all happy customers chatting up the interwebs at times [12:08] thats in the topic, but anyway [12:09] I've had two noisy neighbors in 4 years on 5 boxes [12:09] not bad [12:10] oh - and one unexpected reboot [12:11] ok. yes it sounds all great. good to keep in mind for a US VPS. right now i need sth in Europe though [12:11] I can't recall how many years I've been with arpnetworks. its been a while. when my other colo and business office were scrapped I moved anything critical to arpnetworks .. [12:11] do you have any OpenBSD-supporting hosting in Europe to recommend? [12:11] you should look at the peering .. is there a reason you need it in europe other than pingtimes that might be better than you expect? [12:11] I'm using elastichosts as the europe backup [12:12] randalschwartz: for openbsd? [12:12] well - the "non-ARP" backup [12:12] no - but they can run any image you ship [12:12] just like ARP [12:13] similar setup... you get a VNC console and a serial console [12:13] downside is the vnc console is *not* encrypted [12:13] so you have to tunnel if you want the same security [12:19] toddf: pingtimes primarily but also it's simply european, it should be in europe. [12:25] i vote arp start uk location :) [12:26] not that i see it as likely to happen :) [12:27] there isn't enough up_the_irons to go around :) [12:27] he needs to touch the machines [12:27] indeed [12:27] and hug them ;) [12:27] and replace the magic smoke when it gets let out [12:29] I use bitfolk.com in London as my main VPS, and ARP is a backup on a different continent for me as I'm from .uk [12:30] They only really do Linux VPSs though, not BSD [12:30] Linode++ for UK (linux only ofc) [12:31] sup with FreeBSD pv xen support anyways? [12:31] i'd imagine he'd need someone else to do uk stuff [12:32] but the model seems to work [14:40] *** scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks [14:47] *** nixbag has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) [14:56] *** ska has joined #arpnetworks [15:00] *** nixbag has joined #arpnetworks [15:23] *** belopa has quit IRC (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) [15:39] not enough of me to go around, that's what all the girls say [16:21] lol [16:34] *** ska has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:47] *** ska has joined #arpnetworks [17:02] *** grep0r has joined #arpnetworks [17:04] grep0r: nice nick [17:05] up_the_irons thx [17:05] i use to grep even with cygwin lol [17:06] hah [17:06] grep <3 [17:09] where are your servers located btw?i think price could be better but i'm not sure depends quality etc [17:12] LA [17:12] Los Angeles, USA to be less cryptic [17:14] speed even with gr was really good tbh gave a 100MB test [17:14] grep0r: they're not using cogent :) [17:14] it'd probably be cheaper if they used cogent [17:15] yes that's why i said about quality [17:15] i've found the routing to be mostly fine [17:15] and it's meant to improve soon :) [17:15] :o [17:17] http://bgp.he.net/AS25795#_peers [17:22] and that's the small list [17:22] complete list is here: http://arpnetworks.com/peering [17:23] :o [17:23] up_the_irons: any plans to peer at equinix? [17:24] *** destro_ has joined #arpnetworks [17:24] oh they can do ports at 1 wilshire as well [17:24] *** grep0r has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:25] up_the_irons: don't quite understand BGP completely but why is the HE list and yours different? [17:26] staticsafe: he.net don't see routes from everyone probably [17:26] like if data doesn't leak out to he.net how can they know about it? [17:27] really need to pickup that BGP book sometime [17:27] bgp book won't tell you that :) [17:27] well prob not [17:27] you never know :) [17:29] *** destro_ is now known as grep0r [17:31] mercutio: no plans at equinix, too expensive [17:31] staticsafe: HE can't know all peers of a particular network, only that network can. They probably just show what they see from their side using netflow / sflow or something, but that won't be everything (or near it) [17:32] ah ok [17:42] ahh [17:43] up_the_irons: i had no idea about cost [17:43] i did have the feeling it was more expensive than coresite htough [17:43] though [17:51] *** grep0r has left [18:02] mercutio: equinix is highest cost of everyone; they think they are special or something [18:05] *** scottschecter has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2) [18:09] up_the_irons: so more than transit? [18:12] *** scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks [18:51] *** mnathani has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:53] *** mnathani has joined #arpnetworks [18:59] *** dzup has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:59] *** dzup has joined #arpnetworks [19:24] mercutio: cross connects, rackspace, etc... plus peering network pricing. all adds up [19:25] oh [19:25] cross connect i understand [19:25] you wouldn't need rackspace though would you? [19:25] but yeah i understand it's only a few more networks to access probably [19:25] mercutio: you would need some gear there unless you can find a provider to give you a vlan into it [19:26] ahh [20:10] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [21:04] *** anisfarhana has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [21:44] does anyone know anything about dnssec? [21:46] up_the_irons: whats the cost difference up to equinix, roughly? [21:48] mercutio: I know its Windows related, but it does go over some basic DNSSEC http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/TechEd/NorthAmerica/2012/WSV325 [21:49] i'm wondering about performance impact of resolvers [21:49] and whether anyone actually uses it [21:49] I have it turned on for one of my domains [21:49] unbound seems to support it simply now days [21:49] running Bind [21:50] i meant from resolving pov [21:51] you mean recursive / validating dns servers [21:52] recursive yes [21:52] i'm helping someone with recursive dns [21:52] and his dns seems a little slow [21:52] I would think additional load would be placed to validate signed responses [21:53] and i'm trying to determine if dnssec is slowing things down [21:53] but it's better right? :) [21:53] you could disable DNSSEC validation for a short period to see if it gets any faster [21:53] i wonder if you can change dnssec lots or something [21:53] yeh i juset set things up [21:53] so don't have enough to compare against yet really [21:53] i'm just prematurely trying to learn more about it :) [21:54] at the same time i realise i've kind of ignored it [21:54] oh it's way more cpu at 500qps+ [21:55] i think he's doing like 100 qps though [22:11] *** nixbag has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [22:11] *** nixbag has joined #arpnetworks [22:14] *** alexstanford8 has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [22:20] *** alexstanford8 has joined #arpnetworks [22:34] *** alexstanford8 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [22:34] *** alexstanford8 has joined #arpnetworks [23:54] *** porkstone has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [23:54] *** porkstone has joined #arpnetworks