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| brycec | anisfarhana: FYI you get a /64, which means you get 4 blocks of XXXX each (because /64 means you get 64 bits of address space), so you can have feed:dead:beef:cafe | [00:32] |
| anisfarhana | brycec: <mercutio> faceb00c works
So it is not valid then? | [00:33] |
| brycec | anisfarhana: it would be face:b00c | [00:33] |
| anisfarhana | Ah got it :)
Thanks Mr. brycec | [00:33] |
| brycec | technically denoted as ::face:b00c, the :: is shorthand for "however many 0's as there are supposed to be", in this case :0000:0000:face:b00c
(note that your prefix, the 2607:f2f8:xxxx: goes in front of that, resulting in the full address 2607:f2f8:xxxx::face:b00c or 2607:f2f8:xxxx:0000:0000:face:b00c (2607:f2f8 is the /32 for ARP networks, and the xxxx is customer-specific) And hopefully all of that didn't re-confuse you | [00:34] |
| anisfarhana | Ok ok hang on there.
I re-read your message 3 times now Ha ha ha Ah so we can't change that xxxx ? | [00:39] |
| brycec | anisfarhana: only if you asked for a new IPv6 address range | [00:40] |
| anisfarhana | brycec: And i cannot use it to replace with some fancy host?
2607:f2f8:dead for example. | [00:40] |
| brycec | You've only been given a /64, you can only make 64bits of the address "yours" | [00:41] |
| anisfarhana | anisfarhana nods | [00:41] |
| brycec | (granted, 64 bits is HALF of the entire address) | [00:41] |
| anisfarhana | It would be cool if xxxx can be replace with dead and so on.
But now i can bind the domain and do the rDNS like..unlimited! v6 is crazy | [00:41] |
| brycec | well it would be cool if I could use 199 instead of 127 for loopback, but I cannot :P | [00:42] |
| anisfarhana | brycec: You are being sarcastic with me sir :D | [00:43] |
| brycec | I was being analogous | [00:43] |
| anisfarhana | Thank you for the knowledge.
thumbs up! brycec: Too bad our ISP still do not implementing yet the v6 :/ | [00:43] |
| brycec | too bad indeed... but relatively few ISPs have | [00:48] |
| anisfarhana | Uhff..got few invoices from domain provider asking for the payment :/ | [00:58] |
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| anisfarhana | brycec: bind a domain to v6 still need valid domain extension? | [02:37] |
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| anisfarhana | What is that?? | [04:17] |
| up_the_irons | it's [FBI] , he's quiet | [04:18] |
| anisfarhana | CIA FBI and so on.
Now i am scared to talk. anisfarhana ducks | [04:19] |
| ant | anisfarhana: anything you say may be used against you in court ;) | [04:19] |
| anisfarhana | ant: That is the problem :/
ant: My stupid questions also will be online and available to the public after this. Ughhhhf.. | [04:21] |
| mike-burns | Welcome to the future! | [04:24] |
| up_the_irons | In a public IRC channel on a public IRC server (Freenode), one should never assume their conversation is private
anisfarhana: your questions may help someone else in the future | [04:30] |
| mike-burns | On the Internet, no one can tell that you're a cat. | [04:34] |
| anisfarhana | mike-burns: I don't see any cat yet know how to irc'ing :D | [04:39] |
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| brycec | mike-burns: shutup and let me enjoy my catnip in peace
er, I mean my whiskey | [07:17] |
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| milki | lol | [09:45] |
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| belopa | any Europe datacenter? | [11:59] |
| toddf | only one at this time. | [11:59] |
| belopa | and.. when was last unexpected reboot of a VPS? =)
toddf: one is fine. where is it? | [11:59] |
| toddf | you read html pages right? | [11:59] |
| belopa | toddf: em.. yes i do
toddf: do you have any particular suggestion of one i could read? =) | [12:01] |
| toddf | everytime this question is asked there is a page people are pointed to. sorry I'm not finding it myself, somewhere in california is the best my memory can do | [12:02] |
| brycec | belopa: the DC is in Los Angeles, California
And there hasn't been an unexpected reboot/crash for as long as I've been a customer (at least, not one I've known about) | [12:04] |
| milki | depends on which tower you are on
:P | [12:04] |
| belopa | aha ok | [12:04] |
| milki | there was that rack failure a couple months ago | [12:04] |
| toddf | belopa: wrt maint history, see @arpnetworks on twitter, pretty open book | [12:05] |
| belopa | ok
aha, nothing in Europe right now. would be nice if it was. | [12:05] |
| milki | kvr25 according to twitter | [12:05] |
| belopa | though maybe the quality level you work at would not allow anything else than using your own facility, and thus would make it too much of a hassle to extend there | [12:06] |
| toddf | and the question you're not asking is .. do we like the service. hands down yes. I've one client using them, I use them with 3 vps's for my own business, and trying to talk another client into moving (because it would be better for them, now convincing them to change is the hard part *grin*) | [12:06] |
| brycec | I also vote for ARP | [12:07] |
| toddf | make no mistake, up_the_irons is the only actual paid person here, the rest of us are all happy customers chatting up the interwebs at times
thats in the topic, but anyway | [12:07] |
| RandalSchwartz | I've had two noisy neighbors in 4 years on 5 boxes
not bad oh - and one unexpected reboot | [12:09] |
| belopa | ok. yes it sounds all great. good to keep in mind for a US VPS. right now i need sth in Europe though | [12:11] |
| toddf | I can't recall how many years I've been with arpnetworks. its been a while. when my other colo and business office were scrapped I moved anything critical to arpnetworks .. | [12:11] |
| belopa | do you have any OpenBSD-supporting hosting in Europe to recommend? | [12:11] |
| toddf | you should look at the peering .. is there a reason you need it in europe other than pingtimes that might be better than you expect? | [12:11] |
| RandalSchwartz | I'm using elastichosts as the europe backup | [12:11] |
| belopa | randalschwartz: for openbsd? | [12:12] |
| RandalSchwartz | well - the "non-ARP" backup
no - but they can run any image you ship just like ARP similar setup... you get a VNC console and a serial console downside is the vnc console is *not* encrypted so you have to tunnel if you want the same security | [12:12] |
| belopa | toddf: pingtimes primarily but also it's simply european, it should be in europe. | [12:19] |
| mercutio | i vote arp start uk location :)
not that i see it as likely to happen :) | [12:25] |
| RandalSchwartz | there isn't enough up_the_irons to go around :)
he needs to touch the machines | [12:27] |
| staticsafe | indeed
and hug them ;) | [12:27] |
| RandalSchwartz | and replace the magic smoke when it gets let out | [12:27] |
| plett | I use bitfolk.com in London as my main VPS, and ARP is a backup on a different continent for me as I'm from .uk
They only really do Linux VPSs though, not BSD | [12:29] |
| staticsafe | Linode++ for UK (linux only ofc)
sup with FreeBSD pv xen support anyways? | [12:30] |
| mercutio | i'd imagine he'd need someone else to do uk stuff
but the model seems to work | [12:31] |
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| up_the_irons | not enough of me to go around, that's what all the girls say | [15:39] |
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| phlux | lol | [16:21] |
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| up_the_irons | grep0r: nice nick | [17:04] |
| grep0r | up_the_irons thx
i use to grep even with cygwin lol | [17:05] |
| up_the_irons | hah | [17:06] |
| staticsafe | grep <3 | [17:06] |
| grep0r | where are your servers located btw?i think price could be better but i'm not sure depends quality etc | [17:09] |
| staticsafe | LA
Los Angeles, USA to be less cryptic | [17:12] |
| grep0r | speed even with gr was really good tbh gave a 100MB test | [17:14] |
| mercutio | grep0r: they're not using cogent :)
it'd probably be cheaper if they used cogent | [17:14] |
| grep0r | yes that's why i said about quality | [17:15] |
| mercutio | i've found the routing to be mostly fine
and it's meant to improve soon :) | [17:15] |
| staticsafe | :o
http://bgp.he.net/AS25795#_peers | [17:15] |
| up_the_irons | and that's the small list
complete list is here: http://arpnetworks.com/peering | [17:22] |
| staticsafe | :o | [17:23] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: any plans to peer at equinix? | [17:23] |
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| mercutio | oh they can do ports at 1 wilshire as well | [17:24] |
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| staticsafe | up_the_irons: don't quite understand BGP completely but why is the HE list and yours different? | [17:25] |
| mercutio | staticsafe: he.net don't see routes from everyone probably
like if data doesn't leak out to he.net how can they know about it? | [17:26] |
| staticsafe | really need to pickup that BGP book sometime | [17:27] |
| mercutio | bgp book won't tell you that :)
well prob not you never know :) | [17:27] |
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| up_the_irons | mercutio: no plans at equinix, too expensive
staticsafe: HE can't know all peers of a particular network, only that network can. They probably just show what they see from their side using netflow / sflow or something, but that won't be everything (or near it) | [17:31] |
| staticsafe | ah ok | [17:32] |
| mercutio | ahh
up_the_irons: i had no idea about cost i did have the feeling it was more expensive than coresite htough though | [17:42] |
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| up_the_irons | mercutio: equinix is highest cost of everyone; they think they are special or something | [18:02] |
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| mercutio | up_the_irons: so more than transit? | [18:09] |
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| up_the_irons | mercutio: cross connects, rackspace, etc... plus peering network pricing. all adds up | [19:24] |
| mercutio | oh
cross connect i understand you wouldn't need rackspace though would you? but yeah i understand it's only a few more networks to access probably | [19:25] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: you would need some gear there unless you can find a provider to give you a vlan into it | [19:25] |
| mercutio | ahh | [19:26] |
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| mercutio | does anyone know anything about dnssec? | [21:44] |
| jbergstroem | up_the_irons: whats the cost difference up to equinix, roughly? | [21:46] |
| mnathani | mercutio: I know its Windows related, but it does go over some basic DNSSEC http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/TechEd/NorthAmerica/2012/WSV325 | [21:48] |
| mercutio | i'm wondering about performance impact of resolvers
and whether anyone actually uses it | [21:49] |
| mnathani | I have it turned on for one of my domains | [21:49] |
| mercutio | unbound seems to support it simply now days | [21:49] |
| mnathani | running Bind | [21:49] |
| mercutio | i meant from resolving pov | [21:50] |
| mnathani | you mean recursive / validating dns servers | [21:51] |
| mercutio | recursive yes
i'm helping someone with recursive dns and his dns seems a little slow | [21:52] |
| mnathani | I would think additional load would be placed to validate signed responses | [21:52] |
| mercutio | and i'm trying to determine if dnssec is slowing things down
but it's better right? :) | [21:53] |
| mnathani | you could disable DNSSEC validation for a short period to see if it gets any faster | [21:53] |
| mercutio | i wonder if you can change dnssec lots or something
yeh i juset set things up so don't have enough to compare against yet really i'm just prematurely trying to learn more about it :) at the same time i realise i've kind of ignored it oh it's way more cpu at 500qps+ i think he's doing like 100 qps though | [21:53] |
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