[00:36] SF if fucking cold [00:40] The weather has been miserable every time I've been to SF. [01:02] i was to sf once. nice sunny day, warm, no fog. in the middle of march 2012. must have been really lucky [02:18] *** alexstanford4 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [02:19] *** alexstanford4 has joined #arpnetworks [02:39] *** DaCa has joined #arpnetworks [04:47] *** alexstanford4 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:48] *** alexstanford4 has joined #arpnetworks [07:23] *** scottschecter has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2) [07:24] *** scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks [07:34] where can a midwest family of 5 move to in CA and not have heart attacks over the cost of living? [07:34] oh and never see snow? [07:34] yesterday temp here? 7F/-13C [07:34] this is getting old [07:35] spent new years eve shoveling my ROOF [07:36] oh and 2400sq ft of house for $150k [07:36] that ought to do it [07:38] * mikeputnam assumes he could get a sub-lease rental of a tent someones yard in Mountain View for $150k [07:38] (per month probably) [07:38] I hear Spain is cheap and warm. [07:44] heh [07:44] mikeputnam: Does it have to be CA? Or you just looking for someplace warmer? [07:45] i do like san jose/SF area, but no CA not required [07:47] los angeles seems nice and temperate [08:10] Just a bit east is Arizona. Far cheaper, less congested, and no earthquakes (or other natural disasters) [08:10] source: I'm sitting here now [08:35] brycec: yeah, but no hockey teams! [08:36] kraigu: ? Phoenix Coyotes [08:36] not that hockey is very big in the US anyways [08:36] brycec: er [08:36] oh, right. duh. [08:36] it was Atlanta who relocated. [08:36] We've had plenty of strikes and such, but the team is still here (for now) [08:37] I understand it's mostly Canadian ex-pats who attend the games. [08:37] heh [09:59] hmm. [09:59] #%!$ing openbsd [10:21] hm. [10:45] *** Guest41987 is now known as pjs [11:44] *** tabthorpe has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [11:45] *** tabthorpe has joined #arpnetworks [12:14] mikeputnam: 2400 sq ft of house for 150K is a dream in SoCal. I don't think that would be possible anywhere around Los Angeles. [12:14] yawn [12:14] morning up_the_irons [12:14] up_the_irons: ;) [12:15] mornin'! [12:15] up_the_irons: i did something stupid [12:15] actually, just turned 'noon [12:15] do you know that when you tell your host to mount an iso for you, you should be _really really sure_ you gave them the right one? [12:15] yep [12:15] i gave you a 5.2 snapshot iso, and today when i went to install shit [12:15] nothing worked [12:16] that's why i make people give me the url :) [12:16] and i was like AAGGH WHY [12:16] so this [12:16] < dr_jkl> #%!$ing openbsd [12:16] and my support request [12:16] saw that :) [12:16] are related [12:16] lol [12:16] i'm about to head out.. do u want a quick iso change? [12:16] dr_jkl: ^^ [12:16] yes [12:17] i made a ticket [12:17] k [12:18] dr_jkl: done [12:19] thx [12:19] go go gadget reinstall [12:21] :) [12:21] * up_the_irons wanders off [12:26] im tempted to replace FreeBSD with Gentoo on mine heh [12:27] *** jdoe has left [12:27] i used a snapshot of openbsd before [12:29] i wonder why openbsd's partition scheme is the way it is [12:30] I left the default OpenBSD iso as it is. [12:31] with 20 gig disks it means some of those partitions are awful small [12:31] i tend to just make a / mount [12:32] If I ever blow away the boot loader again, I can just run the installer for any iso, just past the point where it installs the bootloader. [12:32] that sounds painful staticsafe [12:32] (after formatting, before unpacking the sets) [12:32] brycec: not really, i run Gentoo on my desktop at home [12:35] You could also just use the installer shell to fetch any bsd.rd image. [12:40] dr_jkl: you don't have to partition it the suggested way [12:41] dr_jkl: most hard-disks are /way/ bigger than they need to be these days [12:41] even ssds are bigger than 20gig [12:42] on my vm i just have / and swap too [12:44] staticsafe: I've had really, really terrible experiences running Gentoo in production environments (which I kindof assume VPS' are) [12:45] Much as I <3 rolling release (I'm an Arch guy at home), it doesn't work well when it comes to "don't break shit" [12:48] I've got / and /home. No swap. [12:49] (I only have 7 GB) [13:01] *** dzup has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:01] *** dzup has joined #arpnetworks [14:25] i have / and swap [14:25] i was going to have it rebuilt by now but i had to go into the dc for $dayjob lol [14:45] 2 [14:46] 3 [14:55] 4 [14:57] 5 i won! [14:59] can you guys share a man about insides of freebsd for this evening? am bored :( [15:00] hmm? [15:01] I can share man pages, sure [15:26] *** brycec is now known as hi [15:26] *** hi is now known as brycec [16:18] *** alexstanford4 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:19] *** alexstanford4 has joined #arpnetworks [16:22] *** DiaboliK has joined #arpnetworks [16:22] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:22] *** DiaboliK is now known as HighJinx [16:26] *** alexstanford4 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:27] *** alexstanford4 has joined #arpnetworks [16:38] 5 [16:38] * mikeputnam fail [17:00] *** scottschecter has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2) [17:03] *** scottschecter has joined #arpnetworks [17:12] *** dzup has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [18:55] *** alexstanford4 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:55] *** alexstanford4 has joined #arpnetworks [19:40] mikeputnam -= 5; [20:12] *** arenlor has joined #arpnetworks [20:12] up_the_irons: You around? [20:17] *** alexstanford5 has joined #arpnetworks [20:18] *** alexstanford4 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [20:57] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [22:40] what time is the D-root name server IPv6 address change expected today? [23:00] * brycec was unaware of such a change coming [23:01] mnathani: ipv6 is staying the same, ipv4 address is changing. No time given. http://d.root-servers.org/renumber.html [23:44] brycec: right, the ipv4 address is changing