SF if fucking cold The weather has been miserable every time I've been to SF. i was to sf once. nice sunny day, warm, no fog. in the middle of march 2012. must have been really lucky where can a midwest family of 5 move to in CA and not have heart attacks over the cost of living? oh and never see snow? yesterday temp here? 7F/-13C this is getting old spent new years eve shoveling my ROOF oh and 2400sq ft of house for $150k that ought to do it (per month probably) I hear Spain is cheap and warm. heh mikeputnam: Does it have to be CA? Or you just looking for someplace warmer? i do like san jose/SF area, but no CA not required los angeles seems nice and temperate Just a bit east is Arizona. Far cheaper, less congested, and no earthquakes (or other natural disasters) source: I'm sitting here now brycec: yeah, but no hockey teams! kraigu: ? Phoenix Coyotes not that hockey is very big in the US anyways brycec: er oh, right. duh. it was Atlanta who relocated. We've had plenty of strikes and such, but the team is still here (for now) I understand it's mostly Canadian ex-pats who attend the games. heh hmm. #%!$ing openbsd hm. mikeputnam: 2400 sq ft of house for 150K is a dream in SoCal. I don't think that would be possible anywhere around Los Angeles. yawn morning up_the_irons up_the_irons: ;) mornin'! up_the_irons: i did something stupid actually, just turned 'noon do you know that when you tell your host to mount an iso for you, you should be _really really sure_ you gave them the right one? yep i gave you a 5.2 snapshot iso, and today when i went to install shit nothing worked that's why i make people give me the url :) and i was like AAGGH WHY so this < dr_jkl> #%!$ing openbsd and my support request saw that :) are related lol i'm about to head out.. do u want a quick iso change? dr_jkl: ^^ yes i made a ticket k dr_jkl: done thx go go gadget reinstall :) im tempted to replace FreeBSD with Gentoo on mine heh i used a snapshot of openbsd before i wonder why openbsd's partition scheme is the way it is I left the default OpenBSD iso as it is. with 20 gig disks it means some of those partitions are awful small i tend to just make a / mount If I ever blow away the boot loader again, I can just run the installer for any iso, just past the point where it installs the bootloader. that sounds painful staticsafe (after formatting, before unpacking the sets) brycec: not really, i run Gentoo on my desktop at home You could also just use the installer shell to fetch any bsd.rd image. dr_jkl: you don't have to partition it the suggested way dr_jkl: most hard-disks are /way/ bigger than they need to be these days even ssds are bigger than 20gig on my vm i just have / and swap too staticsafe: I've had really, really terrible experiences running Gentoo in production environments (which I kindof assume VPS' are) Much as I <3 rolling release (I'm an Arch guy at home), it doesn't work well when it comes to "don't break shit" I've got / and /home. No swap. (I only have 7 GB) i have / and swap i was going to have it rebuilt by now but i had to go into the dc for $dayjob lol 2 3 4 5 i won! can you guys share a man about insides of freebsd for this evening? am bored :( hmm? I can share man pages, sure 5 mikeputnam -= 5; up_the_irons: You around? what time is the D-root name server IPv6 address change expected today? mnathani: ipv6 is staying the same, ipv4 address is changing. No time given. http://d.root-servers.org/renumber.html brycec: right, the ipv4 address is changing