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[15:17] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=systrace&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=OpenBSD+Current&arch=i386&format=html [15:17] that's one way [15:17] basically the only kind of way to limit is block system calls [15:17] linux has something similar as well i think [15:17] the other way is to have virtual code rather than real code [15:18] like a c interpreter [15:22] Linux has SELinux and Apparmor [15:22] not that I have any extensive experience with either [15:23] but I'm told OpenSuSE has a solid default Apparmor install [15:24] just updated my vps to fbsd 9.1-RELEASE :) [15:31] oooh 9.1-release is out? spiffy [15:32] ugh - that means 8.3 is probably eol'ed, and it's time for me to update everything [15:32] oh it's not officially built according to http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html [15:33] brycec: its on the mirrors already [15:33] still gotta go through secteam :/ [15:34] i think there'll be a freebsd 8.4 randal [15:35] or maybe not [15:35] google says they don't have enough manpower [15:36] someone had idea of kickstarter project [15:45] hmm. I'm using freebsd, but I'm thinking I might just need to do some traffic inspection. [15:45] that would be easier than trying to log everything. [15:45] My main concern is, I have 3 users. user1 compiles a program and runs a DOS against someone else and I get an abuse report. I need to handle it, but I need to track the user that did it. 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[23:08] openbsd [23:09] why [23:09] what makes openbsd's shit smell sweeter? [23:09] that is a rather silly question [23:09] what is this for? [23:09] it contains itself [23:09] it's not randomly disobedient [23:09] what is what for? i want a bsd box for fuckin' around on. [23:10] perl, irc. etc. [23:10] randomly disobedient? [23:10] openbsd has better man pages, is more consistent, less crap in the base install [23:10] what? [23:10] and higher quality standards [23:10] that said there are less knobs. [23:11] well he was talking about shitting [23:11] so i thought of dogs [23:11] why has a user on irc automatically got to be male? (: [23:14] because english doesn't have a gender-neutral pronoun [23:15] there's a generally accepted gender neutral pronoun. [23:15] 'ze' [23:15] ze/zir, etc [23:15] first time i've heard of that [23:15] well, now you know. (: [23:15] tell your friends. [23:19] hm [23:20] a cursory glace at some internet sources point to a focus on security first [23:20] i like this. [23:20] are you a feminist dr_jkl? [23:21] cos it seems strange to go on a tirade like that randomly [23:25] tirade? hardly. i was simply passing on some info [23:28] like a 'hey, didja know...' [23:29] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [23:29] *** lazard has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [23:49] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [23:49] *** hitchcock.freenode.net sets mode: +o heavysixer