#arpnetworks 2012-12-14,Fri

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sorresseanI'm looking at building a hosting service to host a couple services. It's a games deal, so users will need to log in and compile their code etc. What sorts of mechenisms should I put in place to keep them from launching outbound connections within limitations and resources? Is that all I'd need to worry about?
also, would there be a way to limit them to x number of inbound ports?
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CaZeDepends on your OS. [15:15]
mercutiohttp://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=systrace&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=OpenBSD+Current&arch=i386&format=html
that's one way
basically the only kind of way to limit is block system calls
linux has something similar as well i think
the other way is to have virtual code rather than real code
like a c interpreter
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brycecLinux has SELinux and Apparmor
not that I have any extensive experience with either
but I'm told OpenSuSE has a solid default Apparmor install
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staticsafejust updated my vps to fbsd 9.1-RELEASE :) [15:24]
brycecoooh 9.1-release is out? spiffy [15:31]
RandalSchwartzugh - that means 8.3 is probably eol'ed, and it's time for me to update everything [15:32]
brycecoh it's not officially built according to http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html [15:32]
staticsafebrycec: its on the mirrors already [15:33]
brycecstill gotta go through secteam :/ [15:33]
mercutioi think there'll be a freebsd 8.4 randal
or maybe not
google says they don't have enough manpower
someone had idea of kickstarter project
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sorresseanhmm. I'm using freebsd, but I'm thinking I might just need to do some traffic inspection.
that would be easier than trying to log everything.
My main concern is, I have 3 users. user1 compiles a program and runs a DOS against someone else and I get an abuse report. I need to handle it, but I need to track the user that did it.
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dr_jklhmm
freebsd or openbsd...
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mercutioopenbsd [23:08]
dr_jklwhy
what makes openbsd's shit smell sweeter?
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staticsafethat is a rather silly question
what is this for?
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mercutioit contains itself
it's not randomly disobedient
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dr_jklwhat is what for? i want a bsd box for fuckin' around on.
perl, irc. etc.
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staticsaferandomly disobedient? [23:10]
mercutioopenbsd has better man pages, is more consistent, less crap in the base install [23:10]
staticsafewhat? [23:10]
mercutioand higher quality standards
that said there are less knobs.
well he was talking about shitting
so i thought of dogs
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dr_jklwhy has a user on irc automatically got to be male? (: [23:11]
staticsafebecause english doesn't have a gender-neutral pronoun [23:14]
dr_jklthere's a generally accepted gender neutral pronoun.
'ze'
ze/zir, etc
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staticsafefirst time i've heard of that [23:15]
dr_jklwell, now you know. (:
tell your friends.
hm
a cursory glace at some internet sources point to a focus on security first
i like this.
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mercutioare you a feminist dr_jkl?
cos it seems strange to go on a tirade like that randomly
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dr_jkltirade? hardly. i was simply passing on some info
like a 'hey, didja know...'
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