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| dominicl | any staff here yet?
anybody here at all? | [03:46] | |
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| SpaceDump | I'm almost here, but I'm only a customer. :p | [04:42] | |
| dominicl | SpaceDump - what service do you have with them? | [04:42] | |
| SpaceDump | dominicl: vps with some other fancy thingys for my anycast dns. :) | [04:42] | |
| dominicl | SpaceDump - nice. waiting for sales to get back 2 me | [04:42] | |
| SpaceDump | I'm very happy with the service. :D | [04:43] | |
| dominicl | :) | [04:43] | |
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| phlux | jlgaddis: it was properly secured
vnstat eh brycec: i was really looking for something with an HTML output bandwidthd is nice, but unfortunately doesn't work well on my other servers ntop is decent, but way too detailed for me (i just want monthly totals) darkstat is perfect except for the fact that it measures everything in bytes | [08:00] | |
| staticsafe | bandwidthd seems designed for ISPs | [08:06] | |
| phlux | i guess i just need to remember that my bw limit on arpnetworks is 214748364800 bytes, and continue using darkstat hah | [08:11] | |
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| staticsafe | heh playing with darkstat on my local box
i like its simplicity | [08:29] | |
| phlux | yeah i do too
i may fork it | [08:31] | |
| staticsafe | darkstat was written in 2001, largely as a result of a certain Australian cable Internet provider introducing a 3GB monthly traffic limit.
heh | [08:32] | |
| phlux | so it doesn't read in bytes >_< | [08:32] | |
| staticsafe | yea doesn't sound like too hard a patch | [08:32] | |
| phlux | ntop is really nice
but it is a LOT of information i wish i could extract that info send you a PM for a link to my ntop | [08:32] | |
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| brycec | sheesh phlux picky picky :p
I find ntop to be super-memory-hungry too | [09:11] | |
| phlux | i can imagine | [09:11] | |
| brycec | I seem to recall there's some web ui for vnstat
In fact there are a bunch like http://www.sqweek.com/sqweek/index.php?p=1 or plain ol' CGI http://humdi.net/vnstat/cgidemo/ gosh that's pretty... | [09:11] | |
| staticsafe | yea
im a sucker for pretty graphs >.> | [09:13] | |
| phlux | that's exactly what i need
but i have no clue how to use cgi stuff with nginx (or apache for that matter) sqwwek is really nice too sqweek* | [09:14] | |
| brycec | phlux: even if you don't do cgi, you can just run vnstati in a cron job to generate the graphs and view them via a static html page | [09:16] | |
| phlux | interesting | [09:17] | |
| jlgaddis | phlux: i use vnstat on one of my vps'. highly recommended. | [09:30] | |
| phlux | jlgaddis: do you generate graphs with it? | [09:31] | |
| jlgaddis | nope
no need to since they already exist | [09:35] | |
| phlux | How long does it typically take to get a reading from vnstat? vnstat -i em0 just gives me "em0: Not enough data available yet" | [09:35] | |
| jlgaddis | two cycles, iirc | [09:35] | |
| phlux | there we go
does vnstat automatically update once invoked, or do i need to create a cronjob to run 'vnstat -u -i em0'?
:) ah, vnstatd | [09:36] | |
| jlgaddis | yeah, you can do it through cron or run it as a daemon (i do the latter, i think it was the default)
btw, you know that there's a cacti graph of your network traffic available, yes? | [09:44] | |
| phlux | jlgaddis: in the arpnetworks control panel? | [09:48] | |
| staticsafe | yep | [09:51] | |
| phlux | i was unaware | [09:51] | |
| jlgaddis | not sure, it's probably linked to from there. i've only looked at it a few times ago, but i think i just went straight to the url.
s/ ago// | [09:51] | |
| phlux | i don't see it in there | [09:53] | |
| jlgaddis | cacti.arpnetworks.com
same credentials as portal, iirc | [09:54] | |
| phlux | Hmm, seems to have disappeared
I can't resolve that | [09:55] | |
| jlgaddis | hmm, hang on
sorry, my bad. https://graphs.arpnetworks.com/cacti/index.php | [09:56] | |
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| phlux | Ah, evidently the credentials are not the same
boo | [09:57] | |
| jlgaddis | did you just recently sign up w/ arp? | [09:58] | |
| phlux | Nope, i've been a customer for a few years now | [09:58] | |
| jlgaddis | nfi then | [09:59] | |
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| brycec | phlux: have you changed your portal password?
I think "everything" is initially set to the random password up_the_irons sent you, but you can change the portal password You can see the username/password if you login to the portal and click "BANDWIDTH" also lol that you didn't realize there was already cacti graphing it's what up_the_irons uses for billing IIRC | [10:29] | |
| phlux | i'd still like to do my own monitoring
i have a linode that has it's own graphing, too but i still monitor it myself i don't see anything to click on that says "BANDWIDTH" | [10:31] | |
| brycec | phlux: when you log into your portal, on your dashboard https://portal.arpnetworks.com/dashboard you should see something like https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2012-12-09_11-34-42.png
And if not, email up_the_irons I guess | [10:34] | |
| phlux | nope, i don't..i just have the VPS and IP
i'll shoot him an e-mail maybe my bw isn't being monitored muahahahahaha | [10:35] | |
| brycec | ha I know most of mine goes unmetered ;)
but don't tell anyone, shhh | [10:35] | |
| phlux | hehe | [10:43] | |
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| mercutio | vnstatd looks interesting :)
i wonder if there's any kind of web front end with dynamic updating for some kind of interfaces graphs that update every second or such with top flows etc | [11:01] | |
| phlux | you could set vnstat to update every second
i just have mine updating every 5 minutes. the frontend i have is exactly what i wanted | [11:07] | |
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| mercutio | # vnstat
em0: Not enough data available yet. i still have this for some reason :( | [11:10] | |
| phlux | mercutio: vnstat -u -i em0 | [11:10] | |
| mercutio | Dec 10 08:06:08 arp vnstatd[9999]: Error: Unable to write database "/var/db/vnstat/em0".
oh | [11:10] | |
| phlux | i ended up just setting up a cron job to run that every 5 minutes | [11:10] | |
| mercutio | hmm
found problem | [11:10] | |
| phlux | i also made /var/db/vnstat writable by the user | [11:10] | |
| mercutio | well i think i found problem
# ls -l total 16 -rw-r----- 1 _vnstat _vnstat 2272 Dec 10 08:06 .em0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root _vnstat 2272 Dec 10 07:59 em0 | [11:10] | |
| phlux | and i'm pretty sure i had to create the /var/db/vnstat dir | [11:11] | |
| mercutio | i tried manual on command line before using daemon
i'm using openbsd it may be diff? what are you usign? | [11:11] | |
| phlux | FreeBSD | [11:11] | |
| mercutio | hmm
same directory name :) | [11:11] | |
| phlux | change the permissions of /var/db/vnstat/em0 | [11:11] | |
| mercutio | yeh i have | [11:11] | |
| phlux | or just run 'sudo vnstat -u -i em0' | [11:11] | |
| mercutio | oh sweet it's workign alraewdy
i don't use sudo | [11:11] | |
| phlux | ah | [11:11] | |
| mercutio | i think it's more isnecure not less :)
insecure like if you're root, you're root, if you're a user you're a user damnit oh have you seen the uhh .. sudo trick... that can wipe data? | [11:11] | |
| phlux | well the good thing is, i now have working graphs for all network traffic across all of my VPSes
and all of the graphs look exactly the same which was a task in itself with different operating systems (one on FreeBSD, one on Gentoo, one on Debian, one on Arch) | [11:12] | |
| mercutio | echo "c3VkbyBybSAtcmYgLwo=" | openssl base64 -d | [11:13] | |
| phlux | yes i've seen that | [11:13] | |
| mercutio | it's usually piped to sh when it's written
ahh | [11:13] | |
| phlux | but i'm not dumb enough to run it :P | [11:13] | |
| mercutio | heh
do you have a web vie wof your graphs? Dec '12 1.36 MiB | 1.40 MiB | 2.76 MiB | 0.03 kbit/s | [11:13] | |
| phlux | http://bryant.ewnix.net/vnstat | [11:14] | |
| mercutio | so you set that up? | [11:14] | |
| phlux | if you click on "hours," or something on the left, you'll see the graphs | [11:14] | |
| mercutio | i saw that before
was just curious if you're donig it or not | [11:14] | |
| phlux | oh yeah
that's mine | [11:14] | |
| mercutio | oh | [11:14] | |
| phlux | i have that working on all four of my servers now | [11:14] | |
| mercutio | cool | [11:15] | |
| phlux | looks like I use about 6MB/hour on my ARPNetworks VPS
which comes out to a little over 4GB/month heh | [11:15] | |
| mercutio | heh
i checked mine using the normal itnerafce a while back it was still low | [11:15] | |
| phlux | safe to say i think i have some room to play with | [11:15] | |
| mercutio | oh 34.26gb in last month
17.61gb in last week stil 95th percentile is 0.19 megabit :) | [11:16] | |
| phlux | that's ~48MB/hour | [11:17] | |
| mercutio | weird i have a massive spike in july
sustained high outbound with low inbound i'm proxying through there so that's weird inbound and outbound are normally similar oh well, if i did go over quota i don't remember getting charged for it, or noticing it at the time (i was on 100gb back then) now i'm on 400gb so yeh i'm still way under in my utilisation, but i hate being near some bandwidth limit | [11:17] | |
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| mercutio | weird it's trying to download page not show it for me :( | [11:26] | |
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| mercutio | disabling compression fixed it
now it's in dutch :) | [11:31] | |
| staticsafe | heh put the frontend on one of my higher used servers - http://bw.sakagami.tomoyo.ca/ | [11:31] | |
| brycec | mercutio: Spreekt u Nederlands? | [11:32] | |
| mercutio | nope
i fixed that now it's just trying to go to urls wit /var/www in the name | [11:33] | |
| brycec | ah | [11:34] | |
| mercutio | i had to unchroot lighttpd to do cgi support
i wonder if it's lighttpd or vnstat php front end to blame http://arp.meh.net.nz:24/vnstat/index.php the main page works | [11:34] | |
| phlux | it's asking me to download something | [11:38] | |
| mercutio | oh | [11:38] | |
| phlux | some of mine are running on apache, and others on nginx | [11:38] | |
| mercutio | that's what it was doign for me before | [11:38] | |
| phlux | seem to work fine :| | [11:38] | |
| mercutio | myabe fastcgi would work better | [11:38] | |
| staticsafe | nginx + php-fpm :) | [11:38] | |
| brycec | loaded fine for me | [11:38] | |
| phlux | for nginx i'm using php-fpm | [11:38] | |
| brycec | heh <3 fastcgi | [11:38] | |
| mercutio | actually maybe i shold try nginx
brycec: for light use fastcgi shouldn't be needed | [11:38] | |
| brycec | I use fastcgi because it lets me lock things down into chroots, jails, user permissions, etc
Also I <3 separating the backend from frontend stuff | [11:39] | |
| mercutio | ; to use SCRIPT_FILENAME rather than PATH_TRANSLATED.
; of zero causes PHP to behave as before. Default is 1. You should fix your scripts ; to use SCRIPT_FILENAME rather than PATH_TRANSLATED. hmm iy makes no diff :( brycec: oh fastcgi works with taht? | [11:39] | |
| brycec | yeah, spawn-fcgi makes it easy-peasy | [11:42] | |
| mercutio | cool | [11:42] | |
| brycec | separate ownership of the socket and the process | [11:42] | |
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| mercutio | oh well fastcgi fixed my issue
but had to go back to non chroot it's still a pita :/ well if you use lighttpd's chrooting you have to copy allthe dependencies over it's still a "nice idea" sometime | [11:50] | |
| staticsafe | with php-fpm you can do "pools" with different users | [11:51] | |
| mercutio | is that in openbsd?
it looks mniec | [11:52] | |
| staticsafe | idk i don't use openbsd | [11:52] | |
| mercutio | nice
oh is this official it has the same version number as php | [11:52] | |
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| jlgaddis | you kids and your newfangled http daemons | [13:11] | |
| staticsafe | xD | [13:13] | |
| jlgaddis | jlgaddis passes out copies of the cern httpd | [13:13] | |
| mercutio | they call it apache now days
but yeah the code is getting pretty old | [13:23] | |
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| mnathani | any ipv6 issues again? | [21:11] | |
| staticsafe | nothing from here | [21:13] | |
| mnathani | for some reason my VPS has a link local IPv6 address
ping6 google.com >> connect: Network is unreachable | [21:14] | |
| brycec | mnathani: a link-local is normal
mnathani: but remember you have to statically configure your globally-routable ipv6 address - no fancy autoconfigure if you don't have a 2607:... then you've probably goofed it up yourself fwiw my ipv6 is fine | [21:17] | |
| staticsafe | brycec: v6 was autoconfigured when i got my box | [21:21] | |
| brycec | staticsafe: auto-configure as in router-advertised/dhcp? or just pre-set in the configs? | [21:21] | |
| staticsafe | brycec: i have no way of knowing that :)
well short of a tcpdump | [21:22] | |
| brycec | staticsafe: sure you do - /etc/hostname.* /etc/network/interfaces etc
(look at the config) It would be *very weird* for up_the_irons to be auto-provisioning a la rtadvd or dhcpd | [21:22] | |
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| staticsafe | hmm yea it was statically set in the config
ipv6_enable="YES" ipv6_defaultrouter="2607:f2f8:a764::1" ipv6_ifconfig_em0="2607:f2f8:a764::2 prefixlen 64" either way I did not configure it :) | [21:25] | |
| brycec | heh well my point to mnathani is that, since it's statically configured by file and not a network-dependent configuration (e.g. dhcp server gone during lease renew), if he doesn't have the address assigned, he's broken something | [21:27] | |
| staticsafe | mnathani: what distro is it? | [21:28] | |
| brycec | mnathani: SAY SOMETHING!
oh god he's dead... <.< >.> brycec runs | [21:28] | |
| mnathani | sorry, had another tab open. Didnt see the messages
Distro is Centos 6 it was working like yesterday | [21:41] | |
| brycec | And what did you change...? | [21:52] | |
| mnathani | nothing networking related | [21:53] | |
| brycec | are you suuuuuure? :p | [21:54] | |
| mnathani | the system did kind of hang last night and Force shutdown / boot was done | [21:55] | |
| brycec | heh
Well mnathani I'd say do the usual network stuff - check the configs, restart networking, etc | [22:02] | |
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| HighJinx | up_the_irons got any use for a couple e5420l's and 4x 2gb fb-dimms? | [22:25] | |
| mercutio | HighJinx: those cpus would probably go into an older box with 5300 series cpus
and lots of computers take 5300 fb-dimms. | [22:28] | |
| HighJinx | mercutio i kno, i kno up has a few socket 771 boards | [22:29] | |
| mercutio | ahh :) | [22:29] | |
| HighJinx | these are the lp versions
suck more jucie for some odd reason tho | [22:29] | |
| mercutio | yeh i wondered if that was the case
but isn't it called l5420 instead of e5420 then? | [22:29] | |
| HighJinx | i think e then suffix of l | [22:30] | |
| mercutio | maybe they don't have microcode to do power saving | [22:30] | |
| HighJinx | been ages so w/e | [22:30] | |
| mercutio | http://ark.intel.com/products/33929/Intel-Xeon-Processor-L5420-12M-Cache-2_50-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB
i think it'd be that? | [22:30] | |
| HighJinx | yep thems it | [22:31] | |
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| up_the_irons | HighJinx: not at the moment | [23:14] | |
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| HighJinx | up_the_irons cool, i gots them if ya need em, my serverboard went kaputzki | [23:14] | |
| up_the_irons | lots of scrollback to read i c :)
phlux: i use my raspberry pi to take up space on my desk :) (still unopened ;) | [23:14] | |
| phlux: since you've been a customer for a while, your account probably doesn't have the cacti credentials listed (or even a separate "Bandwidth" service line) | [23:20] | ||
| HighJinx: cool tnx
mercutio: the L's are lower voltage version of the E's. I have a couple but have not noticed much difference in power consumed. | [23:26] | ||
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| HighJinx: the fb-dimm's i use are 4gb and now i'm favoring ddr3 registered b/c of the price reduction (not so when they first came out) | [23:47] | ||
| HighJinx | yea
i havent even ventured into the iCore series yet xD | [23:47] | |
| up_the_irons | i just built kvr28, identical to kvr02 - kvr26, with Intel E5430's and fb-dimm's, mainly because i already had all the hardware new in box in storage; but from here on out, i want to build my kvr27 model, which is AMD based. cheaper, more horses, less power, and more ram
HighJinx: the 3.4 GHz ivy bridge's are sweeeeeeeeet those are on my dedicated server line and i've never seen GCC compile so fast on FreeBSD ;) | [23:48] | |
| HighJinx | hehe, i gotta build me a new gaming box, ill keep that in mind up_the_irons | [23:50] | |
| up_the_irons | yeah man, E3-1240's, sweet little procs
or go all the way with E5 (i've never tried) | [23:51] | |
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