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[12:05] *** mhoran has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [12:11] *** mhoran has joined #arpnetworks [12:11] *** hitchcock.freenode.net sets mode: +o mhoran [12:44] *** himuraken has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:12] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks [14:35] weechat does color nick the best [14:35] esp. if you have 256 color support [14:35] http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/07/dropbox-guido-van-rossum-python/ [14:36] nice [14:39] second time someone's mentioned weechat today. [14:39] is it any less crashy yet? :P [14:43] %s/weechat/irssi/g [14:43] :wq [14:44] ZZ [14:44] i actually use :x but that rather looks like a smiley [14:45] Yes, I use :x too. It's shorter :) [14:46] and often with gusto right hand: -: left hand: *POW*x [14:46] :wq! [14:46] be a real man. [14:47] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [14:47] rivalled only by quickly switching irssi windows as people walk by Esc-1 [14:47] mike: just switch desktops? [14:47] alt-1, alt-2 etc [14:47] i wish. [14:48] actually my irssi changes windows with alt-1-3 etc [14:48] this still looks like i'm working in my editor [14:48] are you a coder [14:48] yes. a proprietary language coder. it's most unsatisfying. [14:49] alt is more unpleasant across platforms. [14:49] yeh [14:49] and occasionally has conflicts if you have more than 10 windows. [14:49] windows doesn't have virtual desktops [14:50] ^b ? [14:50] ? [14:50] changes windwos in tmux [14:50] unless you've bind-ed it to something else [14:51] i use Control+Spacebar as my prefix [14:51] ahh [14:51] god i hate windows :/ [14:51] dunno why i'm using it [14:51] inertia [14:52] nah [14:52] it's a reasonable recent thing [14:52] in the last few years [14:52] oh it was when i got a newer video card [14:52] heh [14:53] windows still is terrible with sata drives [14:53] and multiple concurrent operations [14:53] err with hard-drives [14:53] dunno about ssd's [14:59] *** milki_ is now known as milki [15:07] Is tmux really that much better than screen that I should switch? [15:07] * milki hasnt switched yet [15:07] Lots of people have told me that tmux is better than screen, but I'm very used to how screen works [15:08] if you dont need any features provided by tmux that arent in screen, theres no reason to switch [15:08] and if you dont even want to try it yourself, theres no reason to switch [15:08] More the other way round - I occasionally use screen's serial console mode, which is something tmux doesn't do [15:09] then sounds like you dont need tmux [15:09] * milki shrugs [15:09] i installed tmux but havent used it yet >.> [15:11] i also installed zsh and havent used it yet -.- [15:12] heh [15:12] you can make tmux behave (almost) exactly like screen. [15:12] except with fewer weird quirks. [15:13] jdoe: weechat has never crashed on me [15:14] plett: i haven't switched to tmux. i just don't have any reason to. [15:16] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks [15:16] tmux has more sane configuration etc [15:16] * milki doesnt configure screen much -.- [15:16] but if you've gone and configured screen to your liking that is less relevant [15:17] it also has cleaner code base [15:17] tmux also has less tendency to break. [15:17] and its not gnu [15:17] eg I've had screen sessions that refused to detach (even with -DDRR etc.) [15:17] and it comes in the basesystem :) [15:17] milki: well default tmux configuration has a status bar whichshows you which applications etc are running [15:18] tmux also behaves slightly better (imo) if you're attached from multiple terminals with different sizes. YMMV. [15:18] milki: Yeah, zsh is another thing I've been meaning to look at, but never seem to find time to do [15:18] it also lets you connect in twice and video different windows of the same session on different terminals [15:19] s/video/view/ [15:19] plett: i foudn shifting to zsh pretty simple [15:19] main advantage was better completion [15:21] assuming you're using recent versions of everything, bash has caught up. [15:21] i've been using zsh for ages so didn't know that [15:21] * mercutio tests [15:21] nope [15:22] bash default config still doesn't do apt-get completion [15:22] not even on the commands let alone packages [15:22] not completion on tar even [15:23] for arguements [15:24] completions are seperate from the shell for both bash/zsh [15:25] default completions are then distribution specific and not a failure of the shell -.- [15:25] well i'm using ubuntu [15:25] which is the most common distribution [15:25] * milki blames ubuntu [15:25] congrats? [15:25] well arch was the same [15:25] and bash maintainer [15:26] in general, i dont consider 3rd party default behaviour a sound argument [15:57] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]) [15:57] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks [16:42] *** niner has joined #arpnetworks [17:24] *** niner has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [18:10] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [18:11] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks [18:35] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [18:36] HAY GUYS: OpenBSD "Community" on Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/113634135604793474364 [18:38] very descriptive [18:38] o [18:38] community [18:38] 15 members [18:38] :o [18:39] *** scottschecter has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2) [18:40] milki: join it. then there will be 16. 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