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| up_the_irons | weechat does color nick the best
esp. if you have 256 color support | [14:35] |
| mikeputnam | http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/07/dropbox-guido-van-rossum-python/ | [14:35] |
| up_the_irons | nice | [14:36] |
| jdoe | second time someone's mentioned weechat today.
is it any less crashy yet? :P | [14:39] |
| mikeputnam | %s/weechat/irssi/g
:wq | [14:43] |
| plett | ZZ | [14:44] |
| mikeputnam | i actually use :x but that rather looks like a smiley | [14:44] |
| plett | Yes, I use :x too. It's shorter :) | [14:45] |
| mikeputnam | and often with gusto right hand: <shift>-: left hand: *POW*x | [14:46] |
| jdoe | :wq!
be a real man. | [14:46] |
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| mikeputnam | rivalled only by quickly switching irssi windows as people walk by Esc-1 | [14:47] |
| mercutio | mike: just switch desktops?
alt-1, alt-2 etc | [14:47] |
| mikeputnam | i wish. | [14:47] |
| mercutio | actually my irssi changes windows with alt-1-3 etc | [14:48] |
| mikeputnam | this still looks like i'm working in my editor | [14:48] |
| mercutio | are you a coder | [14:48] |
| mikeputnam | yes. a proprietary language coder. it's most unsatisfying. | [14:48] |
| jdoe | alt is more unpleasant across platforms. | [14:49] |
| mercutio | yeh | [14:49] |
| jdoe | and occasionally has conflicts if you have more than 10 windows. | [14:49] |
| mercutio | windows doesn't have virtual desktops
^b ? | [14:49] |
| jdoe | ? | [14:50] |
| mercutio | changes windwos in tmux | [14:50] |
| mikeputnam | unless you've bind-ed it to something else
i use Control+Spacebar as my prefix | [14:50] |
| mercutio | ahh
god i hate windows :/ dunno why i'm using it | [14:51] |
| mikeputnam | inertia | [14:51] |
| mercutio | nah
it's a reasonable recent thing in the last few years oh it was when i got a newer video card heh windows still is terrible with sata drives and multiple concurrent operations err with hard-drives dunno about ssd's | [14:52] |
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| plett | Is tmux really that much better than screen that I should switch? | [15:07] |
| milki | milki hasnt switched yet | [15:07] |
| plett | Lots of people have told me that tmux is better than screen, but I'm very used to how screen works | [15:07] |
| milki | if you dont need any features provided by tmux that arent in screen, theres no reason to switch
and if you dont even want to try it yourself, theres no reason to switch | [15:08] |
| plett | More the other way round - I occasionally use screen's serial console mode, which is something tmux doesn't do | [15:08] |
| milki | then sounds like you dont need tmux
milki shrugs i installed tmux but havent used it yet >.> i also installed zsh and havent used it yet -.- | [15:09] |
| jdoe | heh
you can make tmux behave (almost) exactly like screen. except with fewer weird quirks. | [15:12] |
| up_the_irons | jdoe: weechat has never crashed on me
plett: i haven't switched to tmux. i just don't have any reason to. | [15:13] |
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| mercutio | tmux has more sane configuration etc | [15:16] |
| milki | milki doesnt configure screen much -.- | [15:16] |
| mercutio | but if you've gone and configured screen to your liking that is less relevant
it also has cleaner code base | [15:16] |
| jdoe | tmux also has less tendency to break. | [15:17] |
| milki | and its not gnu | [15:17] |
| jdoe | eg I've had screen sessions that refused to detach (even with -DDRR etc.) | [15:17] |
| DaCa | and it comes in the basesystem :) | [15:17] |
| mercutio | milki: well default tmux configuration has a status bar whichshows you which applications etc are running | [15:17] |
| jdoe | tmux also behaves slightly better (imo) if you're attached from multiple terminals with different sizes. YMMV. | [15:18] |
| plett | milki: Yeah, zsh is another thing I've been meaning to look at, but never seem to find time to do | [15:18] |
| mercutio | it also lets you connect in twice and video different windows of the same session on different terminals
s/video/view/ plett: i foudn shifting to zsh pretty simple main advantage was better completion | [15:18] |
| jdoe | assuming you're using recent versions of everything, bash has caught up. | [15:21] |
| mercutio | i've been using zsh for ages so didn't know that
mercutio tests nope bash default config still doesn't do apt-get completion not even on the commands let alone packages not completion on tar even for arguements | [15:21] |
| milki | completions are seperate from the shell for both bash/zsh
default completions are then distribution specific and not a failure of the shell -.- | [15:24] |
| mercutio | well i'm using ubuntu
which is the most common distribution | [15:25] |
| milki | milki blames ubuntu | [15:25] |
| jdoe | congrats? | [15:25] |
| mercutio | well arch was the same | [15:25] |
| milki | and bash maintainer
in general, i dont consider 3rd party default behaviour a sound argument | [15:25] |
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| mikeputnam | HAY GUYS: OpenBSD "Community" on Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/113634135604793474364 | [18:36] |
| milki | very descriptive
o community 15 members :o | [18:38] |
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| mikeputnam | milki: join it. then there will be 16. | [18:40] |
| milki | milki doesnt use openbsd though
milki is a freebsd user | [18:44] |
| brycec | G+ comunities are a big fucking mess, there are dozens of "OpenBSD communities" | [18:48] |
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