toddf: i'm gonna switch that ISO shortly toddf: actually, is there a place i can just wget or scp it from? i can't take file attachments from the help desk directly onto a server, instead i need to download it locally and then re-upload it, which would take forever on my TW cable... oh man, lots of scrollback... sorry up_the_irons .. mostly my fault i think :) chat away, that's what IRC is for :) heh toddf: i worked it out with the iso. it's in there now http://howtousetwitterformarketingandpr.com/ long link is long What else do people use Twitter for? It's an advertising tool. tell people about your breakfaste.