I upgraded tmux from 1.6 to 1.7 and I had to kill my emacs session. :)
RandalSchwartz: I like that my "window collapse" hack isn't required anymore, <3 move-window -r
ooh neat
RandalSchwartz: fwiw, you can get the same behaviour on older tmux versions with https://qqp.ca/tmux/tmux-collapse.txt
when I first started using it I didn't understand why it had so much accessible from the command line. The extensibility is great.
yeah I like that about it
I'd never go back to screen now.  can't imagine
heh. maybe i should move on?
all I really use it for are putting irc in the background
I just... use it habitually. Rather than opening 129387123 tabs to a host, I just use tmux/screen/whatever.
... the other thing I like about it, it seems to handle multiple clients with different terminal sizes more pleasantly than screen does.
Here's one of my more fun ones - http://pastebin.com/ZnzkNMG3
I use it every morning to refresh projects that I track
fire up 8 windows to fetch things, and then if they need building, I put them in that window.
can tmux broadcast keytrokes to all attached window sessions?
individually, yes
you can write a loop in a shell of your choice
hi RandalSchwartz
hi!
our FreeBSD images are stock FreeBSD, so if FreeBSD has an inode problem on 5GB disks, then so will you
up_the_irons: Exactly... but the partition can be formatted to allocate more inodes than "default." And as the provider, specifically a provider or small disks, isn't that up your alley to fix?
Or at least may, include a note? "This is the default. If you install ports, you will probably run out of inodes. If this matters, reinstall yourself.
brycec: a FAQ entry on that is probably in order, yes
I ran into the same issue setting up a box with an 80GB hard drive - /usr was given a 10GB partition and *poof* ran out of inodes
(I managed to un-tar ports... It was during an cvsup that it exploded.)
probably not having the ports tree on 5gb disk is the best idea
Truthfully I hadn't even noticed it was a 5GB slice the customer was having trouble with...
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html
So the 9.1 release announcement was scheduled for yesterday.  Does anyone know how much longer it is until 9.1 is actually officially released (or is it?  front page isn't updated)
it should be rsn i think
9.1-rc2 was quite stable
and it hikn there's a rc3 now
I'm going to fix the inode issue in my 9.1 templates
cool
up_the_irons: fbsd slips all the time :P
jdoe: ah ok :)
openbsd doesn't slip :)
that's because openbsd has no features.
it has carp, pf, relayd, tmux, openbgpd, openntpd, all kinds of things
just becuase freebsd has imported old versions of those doesn't make freebsd feature-rich
and pf, and openbgpd, and relayd are all quite stale on freebsd
thatnks for fixing up the stateful filtering up_the_irons
jdoe: lol
jdoe: i would say more maintstream things have grown out of OpenBSD than a lot of other OS (e.g. OpenSSH, pf)
mercutio: np
mercutio: did it make any difference?
yeh it fixed the issue
it hasn't fixed my issue with not enough traffic coming over it
and not wanting to have some peers route via it
but uhh
that gets complicated
i'll probably just have to put up with pipenetworks and a few other places peering there going via there rather than nz<->au
up_the_irons: it's funny, i don't even think about openssh coming from openbsd now... cos it stands so much on it's own
but theyhave a lot of talented developers
and they really care about doing things better
whereas other operating systems seem to just seem to be focusing on "faster smp", etc
that said i'd like their network stack to use tcp/ip
oops
to use smp
up_the_irons: and in return I'd probably say something trite about how userland != the kernel, otherwise we'd be giving linux credit/blame for the GNU shit ;)
Hello, I ordered a VPS but I inputted a different yahoo domain (e.g. test123@yahoo.com instead of test123@ymail.com). How could I contact support to ask assistance?
jloks: aren't yahoo emails @yahoo anyway?  i saw your order, I can make the change
jloks: so i should just s/yahoo/ymail/ ?
up_the_irons: yes, @ymail instead of @yahoo
jdoe: fyi, beta vps is going away (as will the others, but yours is up today... ;)
jloks: roger
up_the_irons: thanks
jloks: np
Lefty: yours got nuked too (beta vps)
jloks: i'm making your vps now
oh
will mine work for an hour or two more?
up_the_irons: what's the verdict?
up_the_irons: Great. btw, when is the billing payment?
jdoe: on the betas?
jloks: pro-rated until the 1st, then the 1st of every month
up_the_irons: Do you give discount for advance payments?
mercutio: yours isn't gonna be nuked today (but probably like tomorrow or thurs)
cool
jloks: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/billing/is-there-a-discount-for-paying-in-advance
i just wanted to see if network worked on second one now :)
for ipv4
mercutio: go check it out:)
up_the_irons: yeah. Greatest thing since sliced bread, or worse than hitler?
up_the_irons: Since I'll be using FreeBSD 9.0 as my preferred OS and I'm planning to setup Jails. Just wondering is the underlying container of the OS is Jails or different hypervisor?
jdoe: pretty happy with the results.  i've already began putting production VMs on there.  running like a champ, using less power and has more RAM, more cores, etc...
jloks: KVM/QEMU
it seems it does now :)
mercutio: so it wasn't kvr27, it was the fw rules on kvr15
i presume
yip
yeh i can ssh in from external
i also took a prepend out which makes routing not go via nz quite as much :)
up_the_irons: Okay, I'll update by tomorrow if you can invoice my payment for 6 months.
up_the_irons: cool beans.
jpalmer: and your beta vps was nuked too
up_the_irons: This is my first time to use ARP networks.
mercutio: sweet
jloks: roger
up_the_irons: Heard some good reviews from others.
jloks: cool!
up_the_irons: I have received your emails and will setup FreeBSD Jails + ZFS. Thanks!
my. gawd.  I just got an email with this X-Mailer in the header:
X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.67/60
jloks:  no problem!
mr/2
that name rings a bell for some reason
OS/2!
i used to use os/2
me too
there was this strange ppp dialer
and vmodem
i used tshell
it made os/2 so fast
then i went to linux and everything was slow :(
thsell was like a text mode shell thing.. so you don't use the normal desktop
up_the_irons: roger that re the beta vps
I never did get external connectivity working with it
Lefty: ok