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I would think not, or at least not on all guests (FreeBSD filesystems don't always growfs(8) correctly) [17:26] it's also illumos-based, which may/may not be here in N years. [17:26] up_the_irons: it does grow, but isn't allocated until use [17:26] jdoe: good to know [17:27] their dev community is (I think) still pretty small. [17:27] * jdoe shrugs [17:28] jbergstroem: i'd have to see that for myself, b/c i've never seen a system that will grow both Linux (ext3/4) and FreeBSD / OpenBSD (UFS) filesystems on-the-fly. Linux, yeah, but not the UFS stuff. [17:28] up_the_irons: not kvm stuff, just the smartos vm's [17:28] up_the_irons: for that you need gparted and such'n'such. you still have quota options though. [17:30] also: http://blog.smartcore.net.au/smartos-command-line-fu/ [17:32] jbergstroem: ok, yeah, if it's a native smartos vm, i believe it [17:32] up_the_irons: basically similar to fbsd + zfs + jail I would presume [17:33] jbergstroem: yeah, that is the impression i get as well [17:34] jlgaddis: how is the packet loss going? [17:35] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [17:41] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:46] sorry, got distracted. gone now. [17:46] well, s/gone/normal/ [17:47] :) [18:11] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [18:16] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:19] *** \root has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:19] *** \root has joined #arpnetworks [18:43] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [18:52] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [18:57] up_the_irons: are vm's supposed to run ntpd/the lkes? i thought i got clocked passed on from kvm [19:22] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [19:28] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [19:41] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [19:41] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [19:41] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [19:57] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [20:04] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [20:35] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [20:40] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [21:07] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [21:19] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:26] jbergstroem: no magic passes clock from the kvm host. I tried to talk to the qemu devs about supporting the wmware timedelta via vmt(4) on OpenBSD but they basically shut me down. If you want this to happen, best develop some virtio clock info to pass to the guest os, and implement a timedelta sensor ontop of the virtio(4) framework already in e.g. openbsd. no it does not exist yet. yes it works well for vmt(4) on real vmware systems. [21:26] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [21:27] toddf: thanks for the info. went openntpd. [21:27] actually drifted 8 minutes in ~2 months. [21:27] O_o [21:46] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [22:04] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [22:14] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 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