#arpnetworks 2012-11-01,Thu

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jlgaddis

yay, packet loss

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staticsafe

mtr

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jlgaddis

jlgaddis nods

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jbergstroem

up_the_irons, jdoe: fwiw, on smartos you can quota cpu/io
(and growing a disk attached to a vm is as easy as vmadm update cebbbd8e-b747-4da5-b0bc-ba7a113f73aa quota=500)

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up_the_irons

jbergstroem: but does the filesystem on the guest grow? I would think not, or at least not on all guests (FreeBSD filesystems don't always growfs(8) correctly)

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jdoe

it's also illumos-based, which may/may not be here in N years.

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jbergstroem

up_the_irons: it does grow, but isn't allocated until use
jdoe: good to know

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jdoe

their dev community is (I think) still pretty small.
jdoe shrugs

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up_the_irons

jbergstroem: i'd have to see that for myself, b/c i've never seen a system that will grow both Linux (ext3/4) and FreeBSD / OpenBSD (UFS) filesystems on-the-fly. Linux, yeah, but not the UFS stuff.

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jbergstroem

up_the_irons: not kvm stuff, just the smartos vm's
up_the_irons: for that you need gparted and such'n'such. you still have quota options though.

also: http://blog.smartcore.net.au/smartos-command-line-fu/

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up_the_irons

jbergstroem: ok, yeah, if it's a native smartos vm, i believe it

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jbergstroem

up_the_irons: basically similar to fbsd + zfs + jail I would presume

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up_the_irons

jbergstroem: yeah, that is the impression i get as well

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staticsafe

jlgaddis: how is the packet loss going?

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jlgaddis

sorry, got distracted. gone now.
well, s/gone/normal/

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jbergstroem

up_the_irons: are vm's supposed to run ntpd/the lkes? i thought i got clocked passed on from kvm

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toddf

jbergstroem: no magic passes clock from the kvm host. I tried to talk to the qemu devs about supporting the wmware timedelta via vmt(4) on OpenBSD but they basically shut me down. If you want this to happen, best develop some virtio clock info to pass to the guest os, and implement a timedelta sensor ontop of the virtio(4) framework already in e.g. openbsd. no it does not exist yet. yes it works well for vmt(4) on real vmware systems.

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jbergstroem

toddf: thanks for the info. went openntpd.
actually drifted 8 minutes in ~2 months.

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staticsafe

O_o

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