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| mercutio | why is the fbi logging this channel? | [01:46] |
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| up_the_irons | kvr27 (beta) server going down for one last reboot... | [02:36] |
| crap, one more time... | [02:41] | |
| mercutio | heh
what are you doing to it? :) just curiosity not waiting on it or anything oh it's up anyway says uptime of 6 minutes | [02:54] |
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| up_the_irons | mercutio: kernel patches
while we may still need some openbsd / freebsd testing for the beta VMs, my cacti server VM has been running on it for over two months without issues, so I'm declaring kvr27 production ready. I have provisioned the first Linux customer on it. (cacti server runs Linux if that wasn't obvious ;) | [03:21] |
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| mercutio: can you re-run the test you mentioned was "it's quite reproducable"
i found the RAID controller write cache was off; this was one reason iowait was high; now fixed no rush, just whenever... | [03:46] | |
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| easymac | Do you have any process by which you evaluate a guest OS on a beta system?
(features to try, stress testing, etc?) | [04:36] |
| I know some issues I've had in FreeBSD VMWare guests that seem fairly reproducable under higher IO situations.
They seem to crop up more frequently when ZFS is involved as well. | [04:50] | |
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| up_the_irons | easymac: i want to see 1) no guest panic, 2) clean network throughput, 3) decent disk performance
i've seen frequent guest freezing with ZFS and load less so if a lot of RAM is involed | [05:47] |
| toddf | zfs necessarily requires lots of ram for optimimum performance (I know this and I only admin'ed a freebsd system that used it for a very short time) | [05:55] |
| up_the_irons | yeah | [05:58] |
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| recommendations on a good Intel NIC for FreeBSD? (dual port, gigabit)
so that it uses the em0 driver igb0 is driving me insane INSANE | [06:56] | |
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| toddf | http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=em&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+9.0-RELEASE&arch=default&format=html
I'd presume that would be a good list to work from I can't say I have hardware knowledge from a freebsd perspective ;-) | [07:21] |
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| heavysixer | up_the_irons: don't look at me at 6:47PM i'll be gone :-)
up_the_irons: but yes i'll help you rock that app. | [07:32] |
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| Webhostbudd | is there an ipv6 routing issue im not aware of?
up_the_irons: you there? my traceroutes are hitting 120 hops that definitely can't be right the packets just never get there | [11:17] |
| milki | looooop | [11:20] |
| Webhostbudd | exactly
that's what im thinking does arp control this router? 13 2607:f2f8:0:102::1 (2607:f2f8:0:102::1) 105.860 ms 105.698 ms 105.629 ms after that it looks like it loops | [11:20] |
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| mnathani | Webhostbudd: do you have a sample traceroute with source / destination | [11:23] |
| RandalSchwartz | I'm reaching google.com via ipv6 with no problem | [11:23] |
| Webhostbudd | RandalScwartz: same here
from the vps however, from my home ipv6 to the vps i get that loop just a sec on the full trace | [11:23] |
| RandalSchwartz | and a few others I tried | [11:24] |
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| RandalSchwartz | ahh, yes, let me try from my home to here. | [11:24] |
| Webhostbudd | http://sprunge.us/AFAY | [11:25] |
| RandalSchwartz | I can ping6 from home to red.stonehenge.com
traceroute is good too what's your host? | [11:25] |
| Webhostbudd | 2607:f2f8:a9e4::2
it looks like it is one of the intermediate routers because it can ping out fine could i somehow be causing this? | [11:26] |
| RandalSchwartz | I'm checking...
I'm getting stars after a bunch of hops. let me try from red. | [11:27] |
| Webhostbudd | yea | [11:28] |
| RandalSchwartz | Yeah - I can't get to yours from even nearby
I think it is your end perhaps. | [11:28] |
| Webhostbudd | weird
alright | [11:28] |
| mnathani | I cant ping 2607:f2f8:a9e4::2 from home | [11:28] |
| Webhostbudd | oddly enough i can ping red just fine | [11:28] |
| RandalSchwartz | I'd still file a support request in case something is broke | [11:28] |
| mnathani | perhaps ICMP are blocked? | [11:28] |
| Webhostbudd | mnathani: nope
it has an almost identical pf ruleset to my other ipv6 box which can be pinged just fine pass inet6 proto icmp6 all icmp6-type {echoreq unreach neighbradv neighbrsol routeradv} | [11:29] |
| RandalSchwartz | maybe your default route is busted? | [11:30] |
| mnathani | Well even the ipv6 ping sourced from Sprints looking glass : Success rate is 0 percent (0/5) | [11:30] |
| Webhostbudd | maybe
hmmmmm | [11:30] |
| mnathani | try pinging my home IP: 2001:470:b148::25 | [11:31] |
| Webhostbudd | it just has to be something on my end
works fine from the box | [11:31] |
| RandalSchwartz | no problem reaching you from red
(your home, that is) | [11:31] |
| Webhostbudd | see, it's weird, i can ping out and get response
so routing may be working? | [11:31] |
| RandalSchwartz | sounds like wonky firewall then | [11:32] |
| Webhostbudd | yes it does | [11:32] |
| RandalSchwartz | by the way, if you haven't seen mtr, get it.
it's far slicker than ping or traceroute | [11:32] |
| mnathani | from my ARP VPS: 18 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 17582ms | [11:32] |
| Webhostbudd | i just turned off pf
still nothing | [11:32] |
| RandalSchwartz | ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTR_(software) | [11:33] |
| Webhostbudd | yea i've used it
and long since forgotten =p my rc.conf is pretty simple ipv6_enable="YES" ipv6_defaultrouter="2607:f2f8:a8e4::1" ifconfig_em0_ipv6="2607:f2f8:a8e4::2/64" | [11:33] |
| nothing?
hmmmm | [11:41] | |
| RandalSchwartz | I'm using the 0 address for my box. :)
red.stonehenge.com has address 208.79.95.2 red.stonehenge.com has IPv6 address 2607:f2f8:3080:: shorter to type | [11:42] |
| Webhostbudd | =p
yea i should actually use the 0 anyway ill see what i can try and change | [11:45] |
| RandalSchwartz | I also have ipv6_gateway_enable=YES
I think that was to try openvpn over ipv6 though | [11:46] |
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| mercutio | up_the_irons: well the test runs a lot faster :)
round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 0.559/1.208/7.285/1.409 ms and that's not as bad up_the_irons: speed increase of roughly 4x for my test where it's twice as fast without the sync commands | [12:45] |
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| twobithacker | anyone else seeing packet loss to their VPS? | [13:28] |
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| staticsafe | twobithacker: not noticing anything here, mtr? | [13:29] |
| twobithacker | yeah, it's clean to ge0-arpnet.cust.lax07.mzima.net then about 25~30% packet loss | [13:29] |
| staticsafe | twobithacker: hostname/IP? | [13:30] |
| twobithacker | Comcast on the way there, trying to get a trace back now
174.136.99.74 is my vps, I'm on 17216.146.45.2343 err 216.146.45.243 IRCing from my VPS too, the packet loss is more than mosh can deal with nicely | [13:31] |
| staticsafe | ah yes
I have loss over v4 as well | [13:33] |
| mnathani | 0% loss from Toronto | [13:34] |
| twobithacker | ah, v6 is much better | [13:34] |
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| twobithacker | looks like it's the return path, packet loss as soon as it hits Comcast
maybe someone saturating a link :/ | [13:36] |
| mercutio | go comcast | [13:39] |
| staticsafe | i think the loss just got worse o_o | [13:45] |
| mercutio | heh
i lost connection to freenode which seems to happen to lots of people frequently | [13:46] |
| staticsafe | http://pastie.org/private/agllzswbtezlpyyjtz2a | [13:46] |
| mercutio | but i was just thinking yesterday how i seem to avoid it | [13:46] |
| staticsafe | from both sides | [13:46] |
| mercutio | wow | [13:46] |
| staticsafe | I think thats why my friend was complaining about not being able to reach his znc session | [13:46] |
| mercutio | that looks like congestion to mzima in genreal
which most outgoing routes go over until up_the_irons get's his new router | [13:46] |
| staticsafe | znc is still connected to IRC because its over IPv6 | [13:47] |
| mercutio | hmm
happsne here too it seems ge0-15.as01.lax07.mzima.net as starting hop ahh that's same as you | [13:47] |
| staticsafe | yea seems like mzima is having issues
im sshing in through another VPS via IPv6 | [13:48] |
| mercutio | notice how it doesn't seem consistent between hops
i feel like i have slight lag but smooth | [13:48] |
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| mercutio | hmm it's routing via trit
oh hey how do i do a paste? | [13:49] |
| staticsafe | pastie.org | [13:50] |
| mercutio | http://pastie.org/5075292 | [13:50] |
| twobithacker | I'm guessing v6 is mostly over peering with HE | [13:50] |
| up_the_irons | who's saturating my linkz?! | [13:50] |
| mercutio | i think it's an incoming issue not outgoing
based on that but the other things i'd found were screwed in both directions err i mean packet loss all the way | [13:50] |
| twobithacker | telstra must have a different return path that's hitting an unsaturated link | [13:51] |
| qbit | man i am gettin lagielagg | [13:51] |
| mercutio | i can do the reverse path from that ip | [13:51] |
| up_the_irons | oh wow 1 Gbps of traffic, who will i shit can today... | [13:52] |
| mercutio | http://pastie.org/5075303 | [13:52] |
| staticsafe | up_the_irons: O_o | [13:52] |
| mercutio | twobithacker: not telstra return path but yeah
gah this wind is creepy let's hope the power doesn't go out again | [13:53] |
| brycec | up_the_irons: who? Thought you limited us to 100Mbps, so that would be 10 users to shitcan... and grammatically speaking, "whom" | [13:59] |
| up_the_irons | things look clearer now | [13:59] |
| mercutio | brycec: it's prob incoming ddos
which can go way over that | [13:59] |
| brycec | probs
brycec would be interested to know who all is saturating up_the_irons' links too | [13:59] |
| mercutio | some loser kid in his basement i imagine | [14:00] |
| up_the_irons | brycec: you can't limit incoming though
target has been identified and null routed | [14:00] |
| twobithacker | yeah, that's much better from here | [14:00] |
| brycec | swoot | [14:00] |
| mercutio | it does look like it cleared up | [14:00] |
| brycec | yeah I know up_the_irons (unless you either have friends on their end, or like borking the BGP periodically) | [14:01] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: that write cache thing doubled my performance with and without sync
err actually i think it was 4x | [14:01] |
| staticsafe | up_the_irons: outgoing packet flood? :P | [14:03] |
| mercutio | static: i think it just happened incoming was the same as outgoing for the hops that showed all loss | [14:04] |
| up_the_irons | brycec: we basically give the target IP a null route community and certain important peers / transits cease forwarding traffic to this IP | [14:05] |
| brycec | bingo | [14:05] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: yeah i'm not surprised, that write cache rocks | [14:05] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: well, it use to be slower than the old node...
but not by a lot and a bit variable | [14:05] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: would you say the performance is on par with the regular VPS' ? | [14:05] |
| mercutio | and now it's obviously faster :)
up_the_irons: i /think/ so | [14:05] |
| up_the_irons | staticsafe: incoming :) | [14:05] |
| staticsafe | ah | [14:06] |
| mercutio | but i ssh into the old vps to get into the new vps
or via ipv6 ipv6 is longer route though | [14:06] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: oh so it's faster now? | [14:06] |
| mercutio | tar definitely seems faster | [14:06] |
| up_the_irons | nice | [14:06] |
| mercutio | i was disconcerted by the high network ping times when untarring before htough | [14:06] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: do those high network ping times still occur? | [14:06] |
| mercutio | and vmstat was showing very few interrupts when that was happening
up_the_irons: well highest was 7 msec in my untar i assume it's probably a bug somewehre where it's running out of queue slots or something | [14:06] |
| staticsafe | staticsafe e-mails friend | [14:07] |
| mercutio | and spinning in the inrerrupt handler
and not receiving network packets while that happens so teh write cache thing really might alleviate it, and it may not happen at lower load anyway but yeah it was over 200 msec before the write cache peak | [14:07] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: roger | [14:08] |
| mercutio | oh the other weird thing is that ping times in general are higher than old vps
like if i ping the ipv6 gateway but that may be going through an extra switch or something | [14:08] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: nah same switch
mercutio: how much higher are we talking about | [14:09] |
| mercutio | about 100%
err 50% | [14:10] |
| up_the_irons | so double? | [14:10] |
| mercutio | yeh
but that's still like half a msec --- 2607:f2f8:add0::1 ping6 statistics --- 29 packets transmitted, 29 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 0.394/0.622/1.158/0.178 ms that's old one | [14:10] |
| up_the_irons | yeah i don't think i'm gonna be able to do much about | [14:10] |
| mercutio | it may be ethernet coalescing setting
--- 2607:f2f8:add0::1 ping6 statistics --- 27 packets transmitted, 27 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 0.696/0.928/1.821/0.263 ms that's new one | [14:11] |
| up_the_irons | btw, this recent UDP flood was targetting an IP on kvr26, and I recently used my new NOTRACK rules (that we talked about) on that host. Man, even with 1 Gbps incoming, shell over SSH to kvr26 was clean as a whistle, no delays at all.
up_the_irons is happy about that one | [14:11] |
| mercutio | sweet | [14:12] |
| staticsafe | up_the_irons: nice | [14:12] |
| mercutio | my beta kvm is on kvr27 isn't it? | [14:12] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: yup | [14:12] |
| mercutio | does that have notrack too? | [14:12] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: yeah looks like double
mercutio: try IPv4, not IPv6 though. IPv4 is hardware accelerated | [14:12] |
| solj | up_the_irons: any specific target IP on kvr26? | [14:12] |
| mercutio | i first noticed it when thinking it was weird that gateway had much lower ping than the other vm | [14:12] |
| up_the_irons | yeah kvr27 has notrack | [14:12] |
| mercutio | yeh well the ipv4 gateway is congested atm | [14:13] |
| up_the_irons | solj: yeah, the target was identified as a single IP | [14:13] |
| mercutio | err i mean pinging next hop is deprioritised | [14:13] |
| solj | solj hopes it wasn't mine then :-/ | [14:13] |
| mercutio | and the ipv4 from the new vps goes through the first vm
so would need to contrast it against something | [14:13] |
| up_the_irons | solj: if you can still reach your vps, it wasn't you :)
mercutio: ah right | [14:14] |
| mercutio | oh up_the_irons ... is kvr27 on 100 megabit atm btw? | [14:14] |
| up_the_irons | yes | [14:14] |
| mercutio | cool
well ipv6 performance to another host in los angeles was basically the same | [14:14] |
| up_the_irons | cool | [14:15] |
| solj | up_the_irons: awesome, thanks! | [14:15] |
| up_the_irons | solj: np | [14:15] |
| mercutio | oh, and your ethernet card issues on freebsd would probably be alleviated by Intel® PRO/1000 PT Server Adapter
they're standard pci-e cards without the fancy stuff err withotu the really fancy stuff | [14:16] |
| staticsafe | latency to another LAX VPS from my arpnetworks vps - http://sprunge.us/iVFI
:) | [14:17] |
| mercutio | heh under 1 msec is nice static | [14:17] |
| staticsafe | yep | [14:18] |
| RandalSchwartz | we interviewed the KVM guys today on FLOSS Weekly
pretty active chat room | [14:19] |
| mercutio | that sounds like a dentist magazine | [14:19] |
| RandalSchwartz | oooh, and the audio is already out | [14:19] |
| up_the_irons | Webhostbudd: nothing on ipv6 changed btw. looping is a sign that my router can't see a route to you | [14:19] |
| RandalSchwartz | FLOSS = free libre open source software | [14:19] |
| mercutio | hmm | [14:20] |
| RandalSchwartz | my podcast that gets about 50k downloads a week | [14:20] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: yeah after a bit of research i also found the PT card and NewEgg'd it already :) | [14:20] |
| staticsafe | latency over v6 is a bit higher cause the other LA host does not have native v6 and is using a HE tunnel | [14:20] |
| mercutio | is it audio only?
up_the_irons: oh cool | [14:21] |
| up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: nice! i'll have to listen to that one | [14:21] |
| mercutio | static: he.net tunnels aren't likely to be that slow actually | [14:21] |
| staticsafe | it isn't | [14:22] |
| mercutio | for just los angeles traffic | [14:22] |
| up_the_irons | staticsafe: nice traceroute! that VPS at Cyberverse is about 1 mile down the street, so yeah, pings are way low :) | [14:22] |
| staticsafe | :D
thats my friend's box with Chunkhost mercutio: http://sprunge.us/iRTH | [14:22] |
| mercutio | a lot of that latency's coming from the arp ipv6 router having higher latency
if i trace from another host it's 0.8 msec to that destination although more hops http://pastie.org/5075448 | [14:23] |
| up_the_irons | gonna get some air
why is it so hot in LA now? It's almost november! up_the_irons takes a walk | [14:24] |
| staticsafe | mercutio: interesting | [14:25] |
| RandalSchwartz | welcome to global warming | [14:25] |
| mercutio | i'm listening to this web cast
about kvm | [14:25] |
| RandalSchwartz | twit.tv/floss ? | [14:26] |
| mercutio | yeh | [14:26] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah. that's what I sound like :) | [14:26] |
| mercutio | so kvm was made for windows | [14:26] |
| RandalSchwartz | no - there's a version of it for windows | [14:26] |
| mercutio | ok this is too basic for me :) | [14:27] |
| RandalSchwartz | no - wait... we get deeper
I just had to give gradual overview | [14:27] |
| mercutio | i skipped ahead :0
gah i need more coffee the developer is hard to understand/follow for me probably partially accent | [14:27] |
| RandalSchwartz | Yeah - they failed to follow our instructions about audio | [14:28] |
| mercutio | it's also partially i think cos of being a geek :) | [14:28] |
| RandalSchwartz | and they're israeli | [14:28] |
| mercutio | rather than public talker
ahh ok | [14:29] |
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| RandalSchwartz | My instructions are to have a mic that is no further than six inches from the mouth. they shared a single mic between them that was 2-3 feet away
that makes the sound very muddy | [14:30] |
| mercutio | oh
it reminds me of skype but with skype you have feedback loop i use skype on my laptop rather than desktop with some inbuilt mic | [14:31] |
| RandalSchwartz | it *is* skype | [14:32] |
| mercutio | so it probably sounds terrible
oh real | [14:32] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah | [14:33] |
| mercutio | skype isn't great for audio quality | [14:33] |
| RandalSchwartz | it is if you have enough bandwidth | [14:33] |
| mercutio | really?
i only have 1 megabit upload i suppsoe | [14:33] |
| RandalSchwartz | in fact, it's better than nearly anything else | [14:33] |
| mercutio | but i've never noticed skype being that great | [14:33] |
| RandalSchwartz | the SILKv3 codec is amazing | [14:33] |
| mercutio | i find voip better | [14:33] |
| RandalSchwartz | better than G.729 | [14:33] |
| mercutio | voip doesn't use g729
voip uses g711 or g722 | [14:33] |
| RandalSchwartz | uh - I have voip that goes 729
it depends on your clients .. http://voip.about.com/od/voipbasics/a/voipcodecs.htm | [14:34] |
| mercutio | yeh some people do voip with g729
g729 sucks gsm is even worse g729 is used in some call centres that's why the music sounds terrible | [14:34] |
| jdoe | er | [14:35] |
| RandalSchwartz | g729 on *good* bandwidth sounds great
I'll just let you keep digging a hole for yourself though | [14:35] |
| jdoe | what he said. | [14:36] |
| RandalSchwartz | I've been to astricon. I've hung out on vuc.me a number of times.
I've even had "the asterisk voice lady" make a promo for me for FLOSS Weekly. :) | [14:37] |
| jdoe | I haven't, but I do have vanity commits in Asterisk, for whatever that's worth ;)
RandalSchwartz: that's pretty cool. | [14:39] |
| mercutio | g729 isn't bad
but you notice it on music gsm is bad but g711 is only like 80kbit with sip | [14:41] |
| RandalSchwartz | ... http://soundcloud.com/randal-l-schwartz/allison-smith-floss-weekly
there it is | [14:42] |
| jdoe | mercutio: and when you only run one channel of voice, that's wonderful. | [14:42] |
| mercutio | well if you run lots of channels you can get a e1/t1 cheap anyway
i use voip over adsl with single channel for my normal claling it does depend on the client a bit it's pretty good with my linksys phone | [14:43] |
| RandalSchwartz | jdoe - have you seen https://www.tropo.com/home.jsp ? | [14:44] |
| mercutio | as long as you don't upload you're sweet without evne having qos | [14:44] |
| RandalSchwartz | they have a develop-for-free setup... I have a couple of demo apps :) | [14:44] |
| jdoe | RandalSchwartz: heard of it, I use twilio though.
unfortunately I don't really have a business use for it, I just somehow scored ~$80 in credit, so I use it for personal things. | [14:45] |
| RandalSchwartz | tropo is more flexible, I think | [14:45] |
| jdoe | could be... same idea though, looks like. Programmable voice/sms stuff? | [14:46] |
| RandalSchwartz | basically, it binds together any of POTS, VOIP, SMS, and Jabber.
along with voice recognition and menu systems | [14:46] |
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| jdoe | ah. Jabber is neat, I don't think twilio does that.
though nothing prevents you from writing some glue between twilio and jabber, I guess. what do you apps do? | [14:47] |
| RandalSchwartz | ... http://www.quora.com/What-if-anything-separates-Twilio-from-its-competitors | [14:57] |
| jdoe | that top answer makes me cringe | [14:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | well, the third answer down or so is interesting
tropo seems to be more of a glue skype and AIM and twitter I forgot about :) | [14:59] |
| jdoe | the Colin one? yeah. | [15:00] |
| Lefty | wow, that guy's name is almost the same as mine | [15:00] |
| jdoe | RandalSchwartz: yeah that's reasonable. I dunno, I think if that was something I was super concerned about I might just DIY the glue bit... You've got me thinking about gluing twilio to my jabber bot now :P | [15:01] |
| ... but right now, I just use it for stupid shit.
like I can text myself a number, and it calls a script which prods asterisk to find me, call the number, and bridge. | [15:10] | |
| RandalSchwartz | call (424) 235-1666
that was one of the demos, but it's still cute | [15:11] |
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| Webhostbudd | up_the_irons: any idea why your router might not "see" my node?
up_the_irons: my ipv6 config is the provided config up_the_irons: so I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong here | [15:32] |
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| brycec | Webhostbudd: just a thought - try using a different address? Also might help if you provided your network settings file (pastebin, or whatever). | [16:05] |
| Webhostbudd | i actually did above
but ill repost | [16:06] |
| brycec | Thanks (too much backlog to sift through) | [16:06] |
| Webhostbudd | http://sprunge.us/UUaW | [16:08] |
| brycec | Webhostbudd: /128? Pretty sure you were given a /64
ifconfig_em0_alias0="inet6 2607:f2f8:a8e4::2/128" | [16:08] |
| Webhostbudd | yea, but aliases should be a single host
always in bsd unless ipv6 is different than ipv4 | [16:08] |
| brycec | heh tbh never setup aliases on bsd
*bsd (well that's not quite true... I've done it on OpenBSD. But this isn't OpenBSD) | [16:09] |
| Webhostbudd | but i mean | [16:10] |
| brycec | Right you are, it would be given a 128 | [16:10] |
| Webhostbudd | i can't even connect to the original IP
the one with /64 | [16:10] |
| brycec | Yeah I would recommend trying a different IP, just to test
eg ::2 | [16:11] |
| Webhostbudd | i did that before
didn't work im pretty stumped what's weird is that i can use ipv6 on outbound connections, but no one can connect to me i even tried disabling pf, nothing | [16:11] |
| brycec | brycec puzzles for a bit | [16:12] |
| Webhostbudd | it looks like there is a loop in routing to my ip for new connections
which makes no sense im baffled | [16:12] |
| brycec | I can ping ::0
64 bytes from 2607:f2f8:a8e4::: icmp_seq=0 ttl=59 time=26.9 ms | [16:14] |
| Webhostbudd | wat
you are the only person who can | [16:14] |
| brycec | heh
from an HE tunnel | [16:14] |
| Webhostbudd | no way....
no one else can WTF im soooo confused http://sprunge.us/FeSX it just loops and hits max hops | [16:14] |
| brycec | Webhostbudd: do you have any services open? | [16:15] |
| Webhostbudd | such as? | [16:15] |
| brycec | 80, 22, something I can try and open a connection to? | [16:16] |
| Webhostbudd | ssh
22 | [16:16] |
| brycec | doesn't connect :/ | [16:16] |
| Webhostbudd | it should | [16:16] |
| brycec | so I must not be hitting you, or your traffic isn't making the return journey | [16:16] |
| Webhostbudd | shouldnt&
i just changed the ip need to update sshd sec | [16:16] |
| brycec | ssh: connect to host 2607:f2f8:a8e4:: port 22: Connection timed out | [16:16] |
| Webhostbudd | yea
it won't sec | [16:17] |
| brycec | np | [16:17] |
| Webhostbudd | now | [16:17] |
| brycec | still nada, timeout | [16:17] |
| Webhostbudd | hmmmm
but you can ping it? | [16:20] |
| brycec | yes
traceroute hits HE, coresite, then you I can ping you from my ARP vps too | [16:21] |
| Webhostbudd | see
my packets get stuck at a higher up router 13 2607:f2f8:0:102::1 (2607:f2f8:0:102::1) 99.083 ms 102.662 ms 103.600 ms that's the last hop that works | [16:21] |
| brycec | I don't even have that hop... | [16:22] |
| Webhostbudd | exactly
that's probably why yours works | [16:22] |
| brycec | and based on address, that would be one of up_the_irons' boxes | [16:23] |
| Webhostbudd | mhmmm
it gets to the gateway fine what's weird is that requests to the gateway ip 2607:f2f8:a8e4::1 don't go through that box does chrome seriously not work with ipv6 now it routes woah | [16:23] |
| brycec | Yes CHrome does ipv6 | [16:24] |
| Webhostbudd | but i can't type in the url
http://2607:f2f8:a8e4:: it tries to search it | [16:24] |
| brycec | ipv6 urls need to be in []
always | [16:25] |
| Webhostbudd | wat
really | [16:25] |
| brycec | since the browser can't tell what port you're trying. | [16:25] |
| Webhostbudd | ohhhh
good call | [16:25] |
| brycec | ha
just for fun, Webhostbudd... do you have a link-local address on that adapter? (it should be assigned one automatically, just checking) | [16:26] |
| Webhostbudd | yes
what's odd is that it now magically responds to pings it's not looping at that router anymore | [16:27] |
| brycec | heh definitely some weird routing going on | [16:27] |
| hmmm yep everything checks out okay on my end. I get responses from pinging your address, but absolutely no response if I try and ssh.
I'm stumped. | [16:35] | |
| Webhostbudd | me too
hmmm | [16:35] |
| brycec | I dare say that maybe the routing holes earlier were a red herring, but can't say for certain. | [16:35] |
| Webhostbudd | yea, who knows | [16:36] |
| brycec | Webhostbudd: do you see any hits from me in your tcpdump? | [16:36] |
| Webhostbudd | let me see | [16:36] |
| brycec | (I've got a ping running on vps3)
If you don't see it, then I'm not really hitting you, and that would explain routing anomalies (and who the hell's IP do you have anyways) :p | [16:36] |
| Webhostbudd | getting the pings | [16:36] |
| brycec | damn. GOing to try ssh now
tbh was hoping you didn't see the pings... would've made life simpler, problems would've been upstream of you. ping timed out. retrying... seeing them? | [16:36] |
| Webhostbudd | serc
sec nope | [16:37] |
| brycec | awesome...
next test I guess - try hitting vps3.cobryce.com ping or ssh | [16:38] |
| Webhostbudd | PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2607:f2f8:a8e4:: --> 2607:f2f8:a650::3
16 bytes from 2607:f2f8:a650::3, icmp_seq=0 hlim=63 time=3.072 ms 16 bytes from 2607:f2f8:a650::3, icmp_seq=1 hlim=63 time=1.152 ms 16 bytes from 2607:f2f8:a650::3, icmp_seq=2 hlim=63 time=1.137 ms ^C | [16:38] |
| brycec | see your pings | [16:38] |
| Webhostbudd | --- vps3.cobryce.com ping6 statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 1.137/1.787/3.072/0.909 ms | [16:38] |
| brycec | now ssh?
looks like you made it | [16:39] |
| Webhostbudd | im baffled by this
i get no ssh packets getting lots of http packets | [16:39] |
| brycec | Webhostbudd: traceroute says ICMP reach you, but NO tcp traffic does. | [16:40] |
| Webhostbudd | http is hitting | [16:41] |
| brycec | 2 * * *
if you say so - I'm not getting it back but then that might just be traceroute | [16:41] |
| Webhostbudd | yes, my firewall should be rejecting too | [16:41] |
| brycec | (it's traceroute...) | [16:41] |
| Webhostbudd | but if the firewall dropped the packets
you would just get losses "set block-policy return" so i would hope it's actually properly rejecting try hitting me with ssh traffic again? | [16:41] |
| brycec | hitting
not returning | [16:42] |
| Webhostbudd | getting no dumps | [16:43] |
| brycec | imma try port 80... | [16:43] |
| Webhostbudd | wait, now i got some
16:42:50.583604 IP6 vps3.cobryce.com.47136 > 2607:f2f8:a8e4::.ssh: Flags [S], seq 3526079872, win 5760, options [mss 1440,sackOK,TS val 177719508 ecr 0,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:42:53.582536 IP6 vps3.cobryce.com.47136 > 2607:f2f8:a8e4::.ssh: Flags [S], seq 3526079872, win 5760, options [mss 1440,sackOK,TS val 177720258 ecr 0,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:42:59.582439 IP6 vps3.cobryce.com.47136 > 2607:f2f8:a8e4::.ssh: Flags [S], seq 3526079872, win 5760, options [mss 1440,sackOK,TS val 177721758 ecr 0,nop,wscale 6], length 0 super late though | [16:43] |
| brycec | (once I install curl)
trying port 80 | [16:43] |
| Webhostbudd | is tcpdump super delayed
or is this router just having trouble? | [16:44] |
| brycec | nope, never been retarded for me | [16:44] |
| Webhostbudd | because i get some packets
but they should up almost a minute late and all sorts of weird shit | [16:44] |
| mercutio | do you get synack? | [16:44] |
| Webhostbudd | im getting nothing right now | [16:45] |
| brycec | so... traceroute6 -T on ARP got responses back from you Webhostbudd | [16:46] |
| Webhostbudd | now it looks like it might be doing stuff | [16:46] |
| mercutio | i'll see if i can connect to your ssh port
can frmo arp and can from another location | [16:47] |
| brycec | getting immediate connection refused now from Webhostbudd on 22 | [16:48] |
| mercutio | as well as a 3rd location, so i think it's working now?
oh maybe i'm connecting to wrong locaiton? i was going to: 2607:f2f8:a650::3 | [16:48] |
| Webhostbudd | hmmm | [16:48] |
| brycec | mercutio: that's me
a8e4 is Webhostbudd | [16:49] |
| mercutio | oh
:1? | [16:49] |
| brycec | srsly though, both ARP and HE I get immediate refusals from Webhostbudd
mercutio: ::0 2607:f2f8:a8e4:: | [16:49] |
| Webhostbudd | now it works
lol wtf | [16:50] |
| mercutio | # telnet 2607:f2f8:a834:: 22
Trying 2607:f2f8:a834::... like that? it's not working | [16:50] |
| brycec | mercutio: you typoed | [16:50] |
| mercutio | it's not even working from arp
oh oh e not 3 :) | [16:50] |
| Webhostbudd | oh my god | [16:50] |
| mercutio | SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.8p2_hpn13v11 FreeBSD-20110503 | [16:50] |
| Webhostbudd | i think i just found out whaty it was
LOL | [16:50] |
| brycec | Webhostbudd: eh? | [16:51] |
| mercutio | works from 3 locations | [16:51] |
| Webhostbudd | 2607:f2f8:a9e4:: | [16:51] |
| brycec | Webhostbudd: another dead hooker clogging the Internet pipes? | [16:51] |
| mercutio | what was it webhost? | [16:51] |
| Webhostbudd | is what my dns records say
2607:f2f8:a8e4:: is correct | [16:51] |
| mercutio | oh heh | [16:51] |
| Webhostbudd | holy | [16:51] |
| mercutio | webhost typo'ed too
i think i misread between 3/e | [16:51] |
| Webhostbudd | ugggh ipv6 | [16:51] |
| mercutio | the addresses aren't very memorable | [16:51] |
| brycec | That doesn't make sense though... we're all haxing with addresses here. DNS shouldn't have played the slightest role in any of this. | [16:52] |
| Webhostbudd | oh god
all of my firewall rules are wrong too they have the same ip CRAP | [16:52] |
| brycec | oh well that could explain it some... though you said you'd tried disabling pf, so that should have ruled it out | [16:52] |
| Webhostbudd | yes, but i was using my domain name
to connect after disabling pf and they were both wrong | [16:52] |
| brycec | LAWL
okay | [16:52] |
| Webhostbudd | SOB
C+P error | [16:53] |
| brycec | mysterIES solved
/dcc Webhostbudd send beer there there, it's okay | [16:53] |
| Webhostbudd | hahah | [16:53] |
| brycec | up_the_irons: Webhostbudd's IPv6 woes solved. User error, typo.
up_the_irons: Bug report: IPv6 addresses are haaaard and easily goofed up. | [16:53] |
| Webhostbudd | yep
=p and impossible to see | [16:54] |
| brycec | I figure he'd appreciate knowing things are resolved... and how he could improve them. | [16:54] |
| Webhostbudd | well, i wish non-existant hosts would not be available
but maybe a9e4 is something at any rate, if that guy doesn't exist, then it should really give a unreachable error that would have been a huge red flag in pf is there any way to do $prefix"2" so it appends the string inside a rule | [16:55] |
| brycec | brycec doesn't know | [16:58] |
| Webhostbudd | darn | [16:58] |
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| jlgaddis | heh, fyodor's girlfriend just gave me her phone number | [17:22] |
| brycec | I don't think it counts if it's written on the bathroom wall...
brycec couldn't resist... even though he has no idea who anyone involved is | [17:25] |
| jlgaddis | nmap?
"fyodor" is the pseudonym of the guy who wrote it | [17:29] |
| brycec | heh I meant that I was talking smack about strangers, something I was raised to know better than to do.
regardless, lol | [17:33] |
| kraigu | in the absence of those who raised brycec
kraigu smacks brycec :D | [17:38] |
| brycec | :( | [17:38] |
| kraigu | how about | [17:39] |
| jlgaddis | heh | [17:39] |
| kraigu | BRYCE NO MIDDLE INITIAL C
WHAT DID WE TELL YOU | [17:39] |
| brycec | Man... I want to name my kids "no middle initial" but I'd shorten it to just NMI... and nobody would understand | [17:40] |
| kraigu | or they would and hate the kid'd parents ;) | [17:40] |
| brycec | well some people might... and I'd carry around cookies for those people. pretty stale I imagine. | [17:41] |
| kraigu | haha | [17:41] |
| jlgaddis | jlgaddis masks your NMI | [17:41] |
| kraigu | hot | [17:42] |
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