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HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: jlgaddis: lol, yeah i bet ***: Webhostbudd has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) phlux: mercutio: the only problem is how much ram/cpu is uses
in my use case, it's not worth the trade-off
i'd use it if i was tethered through my iPhone or something though
no doubt ***: _brycec has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
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phlux: i wouldn't to start looking at why it used so much cpu
it also increases latency on close connection
i didn't get far though, it took long enough to compile git version
various dependencies blah phlux: yeah i won't be using it for everyday use mercutio: i think that's bug
and can be fixed
but it's c++
i kind of wanted to do something similar once upon a time
and i've done a few semi-related things
like written ansi terminal, network code, etc before
it also doesn't work with windows/putty
and ssh has high overhead to start a new shell
which matters if there's packet loss
i used to use telnet in 486 days
cos ssh was too slow phlux: probably a broken eventloop mercutio: yeh
too tired to look at it right now
but it inspires me a little :)
it helps with ssh to amsterdam phlux: haha i bet plett: The mosh people are still being a bit silly about IPv6 support
They've invented this corner case where you're ssh'ing (well, mosh'ing) to a pool of servers with one DNS hostname which returns multiple A and AAAA records, and want to roam between v4 and v6 but can't tell which v6 address is the same server as the v4 one you're connected to
And they're using this situation that nobody has as a reason not to do IPv6 at all ***: chmod2 has joined #arpnetworks
chmod has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) andol: plett: When you say "nobody" I am sure you really mean something like "almost nobody" alt. "very few" or so?
plett: Also, if they were using it as an excuse not to do IPv6 at all, howcome they have IPv6 support on the roadmap for Mosh 1.3? plett: andol: Yes. Almost nobody.
Despite being on the roadmap, none of the existing patches to add v6 support are acceptable until they can solve the above mentioned "problem"
I'd love for mosh to be useful for me, but I have a handful of v6-only hosts which I would need to use it against ***: meingtsla has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
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johnmg has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) mercutio: plett: why do you havae ipv6 only sites? ***: chmod has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: i assume it's just for testing :) up_the_irons: plett: just curious, what do you run on your v6-only hosts? staticsafe: whee just got my receipt, can't wait to get the VPS up_the_irons: staticsafe: almost done :) staticsafe: :D up_the_irons: staticsafe: welcome packet sent! staticsafe: whee, FreeBSD here I come up_the_irons: gotta jet, email support@arpnetworks.com should you need anything else (or just asking here can sometimes get your question answered), thanks! -: up_the_irons heads out staticsafe: np -: staticsafe thinks of hostname brycec: mercutio / up_the_irons: I can't speak for plett, but I've gota few ipv6-only hosts and websites. Part of it is for testing and development, partly for the nerd/cool/hipster factor, and often because I simply don't need a host with IPv4 connectivity. With IPv6, I can just pick one of the billion or so free addresses and BAM, IP-based virtualhost complete with SSL, that 99.9% of portscanners and ne'er-do-wells will ever mess with (yay lazy
firewall rules). I guess basically it boils down to personal stuff, not servers intended for the public at large... though I suppose I could always offer up an IPv6 mirror site. mercutio: with seperate web servers? brycec: No, just a single lighttpd instance
or Apache mercutio: hmm, surely you can just use acls for that? brycec: ACLs for... the SSL cert? Nah very few browser support the new extensions that let the server decide which certificate to send based on the hostname requested. One certificate per IP is still the best and easiest method.
mercutio: unless I misinterpreted your application of ACLs mercutio: acls for firewall
or lighttpd
oh brycec: mercutio: you seem to have overlooked the keyword _lazy_ firewalling mercutio: it's about https
i hate https :)
i don't think the name-based-virtual-histin g works yet
it's been needed for about 14 years.
but hey brycec: lol yeah. Supposedly there's an extension to HTTP for it where the client connects and sends the request before the server sends its certificate. But it's definitely not widely supported
So IPv6 ftw! mercutio: i dunno https for the lose :) brycec: need another ssl host? SURE! HERE ARE BILLIONS OF ADDRESSES IN YOUR /64! mercutio: what i want is some kind of txt record or something defined web server stuff
like what hosts are there
what priority to use them in
https/http name
http protocol version
any extra protocols supported etc
and being in dns it could be hosted in many locations
and like for instance some sites work best if you keep going to the same server, and some don't midn etc brycec: Yeah, DNS would make a great place to place a site's public ssl cert or fingerprint at least for client verification staticsafe: man, installing vim is taking a while :) brycec: staticsafe: perhaps you should've gone with vim-nox? staticsafe: oh crap
bleh too late now brycec: Or is it vim-lite... Changes names depending on where you are (lunix, etc) staticsafe: FreeBSD here
im usually a Debian/Gentoo guy brycec: Never too late staticsafe... you don't want that disk space needlessly eaten up
heh Debian here, but I admin Debian, CentOS, OpenBSD and FreeBSD. I can't keep names straight between 'em staticsafe: its building perl atm
i think the only extra stuff in the vim package i don't need is the x11 stuff it pulled in mercutio: what's vim-nox? brycec: yep, which is somewhere between 300 and 500MB as I recall
mercutio: vim without X deps
cuz... vim can have X deps, for gvim and the like, font rendering... I don't know what all else staticsafe: vim-lite brycec: (also -nox has no perl or python support) staticsafe: brycec: i actually need the python support
otherwise part of my .vimrc doesn't work ;) brycec: clearly you're writing your vimrc wrong :P staticsafe: https://github.com/staticsafe/dotfiles/blob/master/.vimrc milki: lol ***: chmod has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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_bryc3c has joined #arpnetworks -: _bryc3c facepalms _bryc3c: the /part message was correct staticsafe: :)
moved over my smokeping setup from my ubuntu box to the freebsd one, couldn't move my RRDs though :(
RRDs::info /usr/local/var/smokeping/Personal/Home.rrd: ERROR: This RRD was created on another architecture at /usr/local/smokeping/lib/Smokeping/RRDtools.pm line 113. _bryc3c: yup
staticsafe: though IIRC there' is an export/import in rrdtool staticsafe: :o _bryc3c: just gotta recreate the rrd staticsafe: time to go read docs then _bryc3c: man rrdtool ;) staticsafe: dump Dump the contents of an RRD in plain ASCII. In connection with
restore you can use this to move an RRD from one computer
architecture to another. Check rrddump.
sweet
thanks _bryc3c _bryc3c: np staticsafe ***: HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
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