[00:15] <up_the_irons> dzup: brackets are usually used
[00:16] <up_the_irons> jlgaddis: I read your Internet kill switch article again, but this time noticed your callsign (N9WWV).  man, you were one away from "WWW" ;)
[00:18] <up_the_irons> i think i'm gonna get a ham license (what is the lowest one, "Technician" ?)..  i've had a GMRS one for years, now it's time to upgrade...
[00:29] <mercutio> dzup: i find having a dns name really helps with ipv6 :)
[00:29] <mercutio> with linux command line you always have to quote it when using the square brackets
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[00:56] <toddf> it depends on the app and usage. ssh vs sftp vs scp have different requirements of brackets vs not.
[01:29] <mercutio> ping doesn't even support ipv6
[01:29] <mercutio> you have to use ping6
[01:29] <mercutio> windows ping does actually
[01:30] <mercutio> and some programsl ike iperf are weird and you have to tell them you want to use ipv6
[02:11] <toddf> welcome to inconsistency and job security
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[04:04] <mercutio> err
[04:04] <mercutio> what happened there
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[06:31] <qbit> rad
[06:33] <phlux> ping6 supports ipv6 :D
[07:34] <milki> who would have though
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[08:09] <jlgaddis> up_the_irons: yeah, and that was before the "www" was popular, ~1994 iirc.  would definitely be cool to have today.
[08:10] <jlgaddis> up_the_irons: with WWV, everyone always asked me what time it was  =)
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[14:31] <Shane_Elmore> Hello, I have a sales question.
[14:32] <jlgaddis> feel free to ask it, but if it's specific it may be better to send an email
[14:33] <Shane_Elmore> I am in planning for developing a Linux distribution (Gentoo-based), and I was wondering if you do discounted/sponsored servers for open source projects. I can tell more about it if needed.
[14:35] <Shane_Elmore> I basically would need the server for planning reasons, then once the first release is out, this server being the main mirror and website.
[14:37] <mikeputnam> Shane_Elmore: $20/mo isn't unreasonable for an adequate VM
[14:37] <mikeputnam> (in my opinion)
[14:37] <mikeputnam> < $1 per day
[14:38] <Shane_Elmore> Right. Don't laugh at this, but, the issue is that I am 17 so I don't have unlimited money. 17 may seem young for developing a distro, but I do have a plan, just no server.
[14:40] <_brycec> Generally speaking Shane_Elmore, the businesses that do give a discount only do so for established open-source projects
[14:40] <phlux> Shane_Elmore: the best option for you would be individual investors willing to take the risk
[14:41] <_brycec> To be frank, fledgling 1- or 2-man projects are a dime a dozen... Businesses don't want to give away their product to something that is likely to never amount to anything or only benefits
[14:41] <_brycec>  a couple of people
[14:41] <jlgaddis> Shane_Elmore: you'll want to send an email in, asking about the discount
[14:41] <Shane_Elmore> Yeah. Not really sure of any open-source hosting that is free other than SourceForge, and I don't have anyone who would understand Linux enough interested in funding it. Thanks for the advice though.
[14:42] <Shane_Elmore> Not saying I want it free.
[14:42] <milki> github?
[14:42] <milki> bitbucket?
[14:42] <Shane_Elmore> hmm
[14:43] <milki> if its just code
[14:43] <milki> theres plenty of free code hosting places
[14:43] <Shane_Elmore> It's not. It's a full-fledged linux distro.
[14:43] <_brycec> you can even put up binaries and github hosts webpages
[14:43] <Shane_Elmore> But thanks, I'll keep looking!
[14:43] <milki> a distro is still a bunch of text files
[14:44] <_brycec> And, inevitably, needs some version control ;)
[14:44] <milki> unless you have licensing issues
[14:44] * milki nods
[14:44] <_brycec> I do love me some Github
[14:45] <Shane_Elmore> I guess I'll use Github if I don't find anything.
[14:45] <Shane_Elmore> Bye.
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[14:45] <milki> your welcome -.-
[14:51] <andol> Yepp, yet another distro is just what the world needs :)
[15:10] <_brycec> lol
[15:18] <jlgaddis> indeed
[15:18] <jlgaddis> and, at 17, i'm sure he has tons of experience rolling one up
[15:20] <milki> didnt you hear, they teach those things in middle school now
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[16:04] <Lefty> aw, don't be too hard on the kid
[16:04] <phlux> have you guys ever used mosh?
[16:04] <Lefty> yes, mosh rules
[16:04] <phlux> i never realized there was a delay between me and my servers
[16:04] <phlux> now i know
[16:05] <phlux> the underlining is retarded, but oh well
[16:05] <Lefty> I use it even on low-latency links to do roaming between networks
[16:11] <phlux> it does use a lot of CPU though
[16:11] <phlux> it's using more than firefox and thunderbird atm
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[17:33] <mercutio> jlgaddis: hey, i thought of making a distro when i was 17.
[17:33] <mercutio> then i discovered how laborious it was going to be, and how little benefit i was going to get fromi t
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[23:21] <mercutio> phlux: i read you guys talking about mosh, and omg, amazing! :)
[23:21] <mercutio> now if only openbsd would have port and it could be built into putty