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what brings you here, flotwig? flotwig: oh hey phlux
company i work for uses this DC phlux: oh neat..small world. flotwig: indeed up_the_irons: man, IPv6 is taking off... up to like 45 days ago, I've never received an order from an IPv6 address. Now, we're up to 7 (one today)
flotwig: phlux : small world!
flotwig: what company? (if you don't mind me asking) flotwig: :)
up_the_irons: full ambit media up_the_irons: flotwig: ah cool
yeah i recognize that name phlux: up_the_irons: i've made a change to my i3wm, but i don't know how long i'm going to keep it: http://www.phluxbox.com/img/i3_tiny_font.png
i used to have them split the other way, which allowed my font in weechat to be larger up_the_irons: phlux: yeah the small font might get tiring on the eyes ***: sako has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: phlux: i have a separate window for weechat, full screen phlux: up_the_irons: see, if i had multiple monitors, i'd do that ***: cmeik has joined #arpnetworks phlux: up_the_irons: unfortunately, i like having a browser open in the same space as my irc window so i can click links and whatnot on irc and discuss them as i'm reading/watching ***: cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
cmeik is now known as cmeiklejohn up_the_irons: phlux: ah makes sense phlux: i could fix that with multiple monitors, though up_the_irons: yeah phlux: one monitor strictly for irc, laptop monitor for everything else ***: cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"])
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Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: happy friday guys, i'm making the beta VMs we talked about earlier this week mercutio: i got my email up_the_irons :) up_the_irons: :) mercutio: now to get dns to go heh
that got it, had to nat to your ip resolvers
export PKG_PATH=http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/pub/OpenBSD/5.1/packages/amd64
you may want to set that?
on the automated install up_the_irons: mercutio: the mirror server is not "production" ready yet, so i don't want VMs to rely on it by default mercutio: ok
i didn't realise it wasn't production ready
i thoght centos was going to it autoamtically up_the_irons: mercutio: for some reason, i couldn't ssh in (for testing), but i gave up and chalked it up to custom IP space
and maybe you were filtering something in your router mercutio: hmm i could from my existing vps and through ipv6 up_the_irons: mercutio: well, it's *mostly* production ready mercutio: it may have been asymmetric up_the_irons: mercutio: i couldn't do it from the vm host, just said connection refused or something mercutio: disk i/o is no faster with no virtio :)
curious
hmm i'm not finding anywhere routing via it atm
of course tcpdumping shows it's working for some random scanner in brazil
anyway works via ipv6 up_the_irons: roger mercutio: doesn't have rsync, mtr, zsh etc
i keep adding things one at a time :)
Ambiguous: rsync could be rsync-3.0.9-iconv rsync-3.0.9
how am i supposed to know which i want? :) ***: sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) up_the_irons: heh mercutio: i checked pkg_info on the other host and it had no iconv
it's curious that disk i/o is slower with no virtio drivers with the new host
i don't know if it's provisioning or the different qemu-dm
but openbsd is only adding virtio in like really recent... ie more recent then 5.1 ***: dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks
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dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: Lefty: your beta VM is ready andol: up_the_irons: In what way isn't mirrors.arpnetworks.com producation ready? What kind of risks do I take in case I point my VPS to it? It not being online, it not having recieved updates? mercutio: hmm my vm seems frozen
oh rsync updated a few more
and now a lot more up_the_irons: andol: it doesn't have redundant power supplies, so a PS failure would knock it offline. A power strip failure would also knock it offline, or circuit, etc... (although those things have never happened)
andol: i have a spare PS, so if it were to fail, count the time required to 1) dispatch person to go to data center, 2) replace PS, 3) bring it back up; as the downtime andol: up_the_irons: Well, sounds like a risk I can survive taking, thanks. mercutio: my vnc isn't working it seems up_the_irons: andol: np
mercutio: reboot? stuck sessioN? it was working when i tried ***: dj_goku has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) mercutio: using the password on the page
password i think up_the_irons: mercutio: lemme check the pass mercutio: oh hangon
i didn't cut and paste password
the font is bad
yip working up_the_irons: mercutio: lol, indeed, i just noticed too. that's a capital "I" :) mercutio: the web page font makes I look like l up_the_irons: yeah
it does
bah mercutio: hah you tried pinging 4.2.2.2 too
well .1 phlux: http://www.phluxbox.com/img/irc_espn3_keepassx.png milki: ?
wheres the keepass
o
theres a window! phlux: indeed milki: its not a terminal app -.- phlux: nope, it is not.
i prefer it being gui so i can right-click the website and copy the password to my clipboard
also, keepassx databases carry over to iOS up_the_irons: mercutio: yeah :) mercutio: rsync finished but there are weird i/o stalls
like i only just changed my shell from ksh to zsh
started tmux and it reverted to ksh
typed zsh
it stalled...
it seems reoccuring
but i have a recent sys cvs for openbsd
going to try compiling it to get virtio :)
bios0: vendor Bochs version "Bochs" date 01/01/2007
weird, i thought it was shifting to seabios up_the_irons: mercutio: it's SeaBIOS
mercutio: maybe obsd detects it wrong
mercutio: but it's certainly seabios, check out the boot screen mercutio: i'll check that out when my kernel finishes compiling :)
bios0: vendor QEMU version "QEMU" date 01/01/2007
weird
that's what my normal vm shows
they're both showing as 1/1/2007
i had 32 bit before though up_the_irons: are you sure you're on the right VM? ;) ***: gcw|MBPro has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: yeh, cos one shows qemu one shows bochs -: up_the_irons shrugs mercutio: well it's also weird it shows 2007
maybe it's some kind of compatibility thing
cos it was done taht years ago
err that way, and things were detecing it CaZe: You're using BOchs for VMs? :-O mercutio: bochs did the emulation code for early qemu
kvm uses qemu for virtual devices
like intel ethernet cards, pci ide interface etc
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446" rev 0x00
and thigns liek that ***: HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) mercutio: up_the_irons: have you tried the scsi emulation? up_the_irons: mercutio: not that i recall mercutio: i've been trying to google how openbsd is on other stuff
well actually it started with trying to see if there's any documented stalling
and someone was saying that scsi gives good performance on kvm up_the_irons: mercutio: ah interesting mercutio: tar vxzpf /root/base52.tgz 2.65s user 2.77s system 2% cpu 3:28.40 total
that to me seems on the slow side
but it's the stalls that were most annoying
oh damn i fucked it up
it's amd64 on that vm up_the_irons: jdoe: beta vm ready
yeah mercutio: zsh: exec format error: ls
i think i'm screwed
do you think you could mount the recent snapshot of openbsd? up_the_irons: mercutio: give me a url mercutio: getting one :)
http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/install52.iso up_the_irons: mercutio: done. hard reboot as usual mercutio: there's two cdroms :)
i see seabios too :)
hmm i don't think that worked
well booting 4 showed 5.1
and booting 5 reverted to hard-disk
where 5 was second cdrom up_the_irons: _hard_ reboot :) mercutio: i had
well shutdown (hard)
ok i did it twice for good measure now trying booting
maybe the installer is same as 5.1
i think todd said virtio isn't in the installer
should it be in first or second cdrom? up_the_irons: mercutio: first
mercutio: virtio is indeed not in the installer mercutio: i'm reinstalling base51.tgz off the 5.1 cd atm
for my foobar up_the_irons: weird, it reverted
mercutio: bah, give it another hard reboot. for some reason, it went back to 5.1. i dunno if perhaps there was an error and i didn't notice the first time.
mercutio: i put in 5.2 -current again mercutio: ok after this base51.tgz finishes i'll try it
i managed to get the installer to install the new bsd
it's in the default kernels, so i didn't realyl need to compile from source... up_the_irons: mercutio: roger mercutio: it's painfully slow
so i think trying scsi or using normal openbsd versions on older machines may make sense
it could be something like syncing after every write or soemthing
cos it's when writing i seem to notice up_the_irons: mercutio: well, there is one very heavy production VM on there (our Cacti server), so non-virtio disks might drag
mercutio: i can try scsi if you want... i don't know the libvirt arch for it though..
perhaps just 'scsi'
;) mercutio: well i'm so close to trying the virtio :)
it says 73%
the time's been going up so can't use as estimate
it was at 51% 5 minutes ago up_the_irons: off topic.. my gawd i am still impressed with how fast new E3 Xeon's do a memtest mercutio: but i don't think the first 50% took as long as the most recent 20%
e3s are fast at everything up_the_irons: mercutio: every 5 minutes, there is a load spike b/c of all the graph drawing in Cacti mercutio: yeh i've used cacti :)
mind you you probably have like 20,000 graphs up_the_irons: lol
nah
probably around 900 though mercutio: it's even slower if you don't have the font setting right i fouind up_the_irons: o'rly? mercutio: yeh uhh i can't remember what's right/wrong
it was going slow for me though :)
when using cacti interactively it was noticable
http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48337 up_the_irons: i'll have to look into that mercutio: oh that doesn't show answer
but basically if showing 20 graphs feels low
slow
versus fast
it's probably that
900 on the other hand
oh sweet it's done
oh now it has to make device nodes
talking about monitoring systms i found a recent monitoring system that is lightweight
and in C
and it's so much faster :)
good for load average etc
and works on at least opensolaris, openbsd, freebsd, ubuntu
cool that cd works for some reason up_the_irons: nice mercutio: xymon
it's got a hedious web ui
but it seems fast even on my atom
as a host
and seems to at least nicely graph load average, disk utilisation, network utilisation,
as well as connection times to ssh, http etc
looks like kvm uses if=scsi
for scsi up_the_irons: mercutio: want me to set it for scsi? mercutio: going to first see if it boots from upgraded 5.2
using the cd upgrade option
it's at 98% of base52
but it also has comp52 and man52.. up_the_irons: k
i'll be afk in a minute mercutio: heh
it'll probably take like 10+ minutes
there's no rush, if you're away for a while can do it later up_the_irons: ok cool -: up_the_irons waners off up_the_irons: no -: up_the_irons wanders off ***: HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks brycec: lol for what it's worth, I've been IPv6 for nearly 10 years... Just so happened to signup for ARP last week :P [16:28:00] <up_the_irons> man, IPv6 is taking off... up to like 45 days ago, I've never received an order from an IPv6 address. Now, we're up to 7 (one today HighJinx: up_the_irons : one of my irc friends were wanting a vpn fer streaming stuff brycec: hey up_the_irons why no Debian love on the mirror? ***: Ehtyar has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks jdoe: up_the_irons: I saw, thanks
and yeah I never unattached the ip ***: Ehtyar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
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