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HighJinx: up_the_irons hah.. i think tonight was the first time i ever visited arpnetworks.com xD ***: sako has joined #arpnetworks <br> sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) <br> dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks <br> dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) <br> dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks <br> dzup has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) <br> dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) <br> cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks <br> ant has joined #arpnetworks <br> notion has joined #arpnetworks <br> mikeputnam has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: <u>HighJinx</u>: hah really? why did you decide to visit now? :) ***: abthorpe3 has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) <br> tabthorpe has joined #arpnetworks <br> dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks <br> dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) <br> dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks <br> sako has joined #arpnetworks <br> bryc3c has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) <br> brycec has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) <br> brycec has joined #arpnetworks <br> bryc3c has joined #arpnetworks <br> dzup has joined #arpnetworks <br> brycec has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) <br> bryc3c has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) <br> brycec has joined #arpnetworks <br> bryc3c_ has joined #arpnetworks <br> bryc3c_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) <br> gcw|mini1 has joined #arpnetworks <br> gcw|MBPro has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) <br> dj_goku has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) <br> HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) <br> cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) <br> HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks <br> cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks <br> gcw|mini1 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) <br> heavysixer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) <br> heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks <br> ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer <br> cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) <br> cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks <br> gcw|MBPro has joined #arpnetworks <br> heavysixer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) <br> heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks <br> ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer <br> alexstanford has quit IRC (Quit: alexstanford) <br> _mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks <br> alexstanford has joined #arpnetworks flotwig: skuld sux ***: cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]) <br> cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks <br> gcw|MBPro has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) <br> cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Client Quit) <br> cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks <br> gcw|MBPro has joined #arpnetworks <br> sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) <br> cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Client Quit) <br> sako has joined #arpnetworks <br> sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) <br> cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks phlux: truth <br> what brings you here, flotwig? flotwig: oh hey phlux <br> company i work for uses this DC phlux: oh neat..small world. flotwig: indeed up_the_irons: man, IPv6 is taking off... up to like 45 days ago, I've never received an order from an IPv6 address. Now, we're up to 7 (one today) <br> <u>flotwig</u>: phlux : small world! <br> <u>flotwig</u>: what company? (if you don't mind me asking) flotwig: :) <br> <u>up_the_irons</u>: full ambit media up_the_irons: <u>flotwig</u>: ah cool <br> yeah i recognize that name phlux: <u>up_the_irons</u>: i've made a change to my i3wm, but i don't know how long i'm going to keep it: http://www.phluxbox.com/img/i3_tiny_font.png <br> i used to have them split the other way, which allowed my font in weechat to be larger up_the_irons: <u>phlux</u>: yeah the small font might get tiring on the eyes ***: sako has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: <u>phlux</u>: i have a separate window for weechat, full screen phlux: <u>up_the_irons</u>: see, if i had multiple monitors, i'd do that ***: cmeik has joined #arpnetworks phlux: <u>up_the_irons</u>: unfortunately, i like having a browser open in the same space as my irc window so i can click links and whatnot on irc and discuss them as i'm reading/watching ***: cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) <br> cmeik is now known as cmeiklejohn up_the_irons: <u>phlux</u>: ah makes sense phlux: i could fix that with multiple monitors, though up_the_irons: yeah phlux: one monitor strictly for irc, laptop monitor for everything else ***: cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]) <br> gcw|MBPro has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) <br> Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: happy friday guys, i'm making the beta VMs we talked about earlier this week mercutio: i got my email up_the_irons :) up_the_irons: :) mercutio: now to get dns to go heh <br> that got it, had to nat to your ip resolvers <br> export PKG_PATH=http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/pub/OpenBSD/5.1/packages/amd64 <br> you may want to set that? <br> on the automated install up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: the mirror server is not "production" ready yet, so i don't want VMs to rely on it by default mercutio: ok <br> i didn't realise it wasn't production ready <br> i thoght centos was going to it autoamtically up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: for some reason, i couldn't ssh in (for testing), but i gave up and chalked it up to custom IP space <br> and maybe you were filtering something in your router mercutio: hmm i could from my existing vps and through ipv6 up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: well, it's *mostly* production ready mercutio: it may have been asymmetric up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: i couldn't do it from the vm host, just said connection refused or something mercutio: disk i/o is no faster with no virtio :) <br> curious <br> hmm i'm not finding anywhere routing via it atm <br> of course tcpdumping shows it's working for some random scanner in brazil <br> anyway works via ipv6 up_the_irons: roger mercutio: doesn't have rsync, mtr, zsh etc <br> i keep adding things one at a time :) <br> <u>Ambiguous</u>: rsync could be rsync-3.0.9-iconv rsync-3.0.9 <br> how am i supposed to know which i want? :) ***: sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) up_the_irons: heh mercutio: i checked pkg_info on the other host and it had no iconv <br> it's curious that disk i/o is slower with no virtio drivers with the new host <br> i don't know if it's provisioning or the different qemu-dm <br> but openbsd is only adding virtio in like really recent... ie more recent then 5.1 ***: dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks <br> dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) <br> dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: <u>Lefty</u>: your beta VM is ready andol: <u>up_the_irons</u>: In what way isn't mirrors.arpnetworks.com producation ready? What kind of risks do I take in case I point my VPS to it? It not being online, it not having recieved updates? mercutio: hmm my vm seems frozen <br> oh rsync updated a few more <br> and now a lot more up_the_irons: <u>andol</u>: it doesn't have redundant power supplies, so a PS failure would knock it offline. A power strip failure would also knock it offline, or circuit, etc... (although those things have never happened) <br> <u>andol</u>: i have a spare PS, so if it were to fail, count the time required to 1) dispatch person to go to data center, 2) replace PS, 3) bring it back up; as the downtime andol: <u>up_the_irons</u>: Well, sounds like a risk I can survive taking, thanks. mercutio: my vnc isn't working it seems up_the_irons: <u>andol</u>: np <br> <u>mercutio</u>: reboot? stuck sessioN? it was working when i tried ***: dj_goku has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) mercutio: using the password on the page <br> password i think up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: lemme check the pass mercutio: oh hangon <br> i didn't cut and paste password <br> the font is bad <br> yip working up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: lol, indeed, i just noticed too. that's a capital "I" :) mercutio: the web page font makes I look like l up_the_irons: yeah <br> it does <br> bah mercutio: hah you tried pinging 4.2.2.2 too <br> well .1 phlux: http://www.phluxbox.com/img/irc_espn3_keepassx.png milki: ? <br> wheres the keepass <br> o <br> theres a window! phlux: indeed milki: its not a terminal app -.- phlux: nope, it is not. <br> i prefer it being gui so i can right-click the website and copy the password to my clipboard <br> also, keepassx databases carry over to iOS up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: yeah :) mercutio: rsync finished but there are weird i/o stalls <br> like i only just changed my shell from ksh to zsh <br> started tmux and it reverted to ksh <br> typed zsh <br> it stalled... <br> it seems reoccuring <br> but i have a recent sys cvs for openbsd <br> going to try compiling it to get virtio :) <br> <u>bios0</u>: vendor Bochs version "Bochs" date 01/01/2007 <br> weird, i thought it was shifting to seabios up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: it's SeaBIOS <br> <u>mercutio</u>: maybe obsd detects it wrong <br> <u>mercutio</u>: but it's certainly seabios, check out the boot screen mercutio: i'll check that out when my kernel finishes compiling :) <br> <u>bios0</u>: vendor QEMU version "QEMU" date 01/01/2007 <br> weird <br> that's what my normal vm shows <br> they're both showing as 1/1/2007 <br> i had 32 bit before though up_the_irons: are you sure you're on the right VM? ;) ***: gcw|MBPro has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: yeh, cos one shows qemu one shows bochs -: up_the_irons shrugs mercutio: well it's also weird it shows 2007 <br> maybe it's some kind of compatibility thing <br> cos it was done taht years ago <br> err that way, and things were detecing it CaZe: You're using BOchs for VMs? :-O mercutio: bochs did the emulation code for early qemu <br> kvm uses qemu for virtual devices <br> like intel ethernet cards, pci ide interface etc <br> vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446" rev 0x00 <br> and thigns liek that ***: HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) mercutio: <u>up_the_irons</u>: have you tried the scsi emulation? up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: not that i recall mercutio: i've been trying to google how openbsd is on other stuff <br> well actually it started with trying to see if there's any documented stalling <br> and someone was saying that scsi gives good performance on kvm up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: ah interesting mercutio: tar vxzpf /root/base52.tgz 2.65s user 2.77s system 2% cpu 3:28.40 total <br> that to me seems on the slow side <br> but it's the stalls that were most annoying <br> oh damn i fucked it up <br> it's amd64 on that vm up_the_irons: <u>jdoe</u>: beta vm ready <br> yeah mercutio: <u>zsh</u>: exec format error: ls <br> i think i'm screwed <br> do you think you could mount the recent snapshot of openbsd? up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: give me a url mercutio: getting one :) <br> http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/install52.iso up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: done. hard reboot as usual mercutio: there's two cdroms :) <br> i see seabios too :) <br> hmm i don't think that worked <br> well booting 4 showed 5.1 <br> and booting 5 reverted to hard-disk <br> where 5 was second cdrom up_the_irons: _hard_ reboot :) mercutio: i had <br> well shutdown (hard) <br> ok i did it twice for good measure now trying booting <br> maybe the installer is same as 5.1 <br> i think todd said virtio isn't in the installer <br> should it be in first or second cdrom? up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: first <br> <u>mercutio</u>: virtio is indeed not in the installer mercutio: i'm reinstalling base51.tgz off the 5.1 cd atm <br> for my foobar up_the_irons: weird, it reverted <br> <u>mercutio</u>: bah, give it another hard reboot. for some reason, it went back to 5.1. i dunno if perhaps there was an error and i didn't notice the first time. <br> <u>mercutio</u>: i put in 5.2 -current again mercutio: ok after this base51.tgz finishes i'll try it <br> i managed to get the installer to install the new bsd <br> it's in the default kernels, so i didn't realyl need to compile from source... up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: roger mercutio: it's painfully slow <br> so i think trying scsi or using normal openbsd versions on older machines may make sense <br> it could be something like syncing after every write or soemthing <br> cos it's when writing i seem to notice up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: well, there is one very heavy production VM on there (our Cacti server), so non-virtio disks might drag <br> <u>mercutio</u>: i can try scsi if you want... i don't know the libvirt arch for it though.. <br> perhaps just 'scsi' <br> ;) mercutio: well i'm so close to trying the virtio :) <br> it says 73% <br> the time's been going up so can't use as estimate <br> it was at 51% 5 minutes ago up_the_irons: off topic.. my gawd i am still impressed with how fast new E3 Xeon's do a memtest mercutio: but i don't think the first 50% took as long as the most recent 20% <br> e3s are fast at everything up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: every 5 minutes, there is a load spike b/c of all the graph drawing in Cacti mercutio: yeh i've used cacti :) <br> mind you you probably have like 20,000 graphs up_the_irons: lol <br> nah <br> probably around 900 though mercutio: it's even slower if you don't have the font setting right i fouind up_the_irons: o'rly? mercutio: yeh uhh i can't remember what's right/wrong <br> it was going slow for me though :) <br> when using cacti interactively it was noticable <br> http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48337 up_the_irons: i'll have to look into that mercutio: oh that doesn't show answer <br> but basically if showing 20 graphs feels low <br> slow <br> versus fast <br> it's probably that <br> 900 on the other hand <br> oh sweet it's done <br> oh now it has to make device nodes <br> talking about monitoring systms i found a recent monitoring system that is lightweight <br> and in C <br> and it's so much faster :) <br> good for load average etc <br> and works on at least opensolaris, openbsd, freebsd, ubuntu <br> cool that cd works for some reason up_the_irons: nice mercutio: xymon <br> it's got a hedious web ui <br> but it seems fast even on my atom <br> as a host <br> and seems to at least nicely graph load average, disk utilisation, network utilisation, <br> as well as connection times to ssh, http etc <br> looks like kvm uses if=scsi <br> for scsi up_the_irons: <u>mercutio</u>: want me to set it for scsi? mercutio: going to first see if it boots from upgraded 5.2 <br> using the cd upgrade option <br> it's at 98% of base52 <br> but it also has comp52 and man52.. up_the_irons: k <br> i'll be afk in a minute mercutio: heh <br> it'll probably take like 10+ minutes <br> there's no rush, if you're away for a while can do it later up_the_irons: ok cool -: up_the_irons waners off up_the_irons: no -: up_the_irons wanders off ***: HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks brycec: lol for what it's worth, I've been IPv6 for nearly 10 years... Just so happened to signup for ARP last week :P [16:28:00] <up_the_irons> man, IPv6 is taking off... up to like 45 days ago, I've never received an order from an IPv6 address. Now, we're up to 7 (one today HighJinx: up_the_irons : one of my irc friends were wanting a vpn fer streaming stuff brycec: hey up_the_irons why no Debian love on the mirror? ***: Ehtyar has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) <br> cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks <br> heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) <br> cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]) <br> Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks jdoe: <u>up_the_irons</u>: I saw, thanks <br> and yeah I never unattached the ip ***: Ehtyar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) <br> Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks <br> Ehtyar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) <br> Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks <br> alexstanford has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) <br> alexstanford has joined #arpnetworks <br> dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks <br> dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) <br> dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks <br> Webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks <br> dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)