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[01:01] up_the_irons hah.. i think tonight was the first time i ever visited arpnetworks.com xD [03:43] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [03:47] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [06:10] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [06:10] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [06:10] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [06:15] *** dzup has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [06:44] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [07:15] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks [07:22] *** ant has joined #arpnetworks [07:22] *** notion has joined #arpnetworks [07:29] *** mikeputnam has joined #arpnetworks [07:33] HighJinx: hah really? why did you decide to visit now? :) [08:32] *** abthorpe3 has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [08:44] *** tabthorpe has joined #arpnetworks [09:05] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [09:05] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [09:05] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [09:10] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [09:14] *** bryc3c has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:14] *** brycec has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [09:15] *** brycec has joined #arpnetworks [09:16] *** bryc3c has joined #arpnetworks [09:24] *** dzup has joined #arpnetworks [09:25] *** brycec has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [09:25] *** bryc3c has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [09:26] *** brycec has joined #arpnetworks [09:35] *** bryc3c_ has joined #arpnetworks [09:35] *** bryc3c_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [09:49] *** gcw|mini1 has joined #arpnetworks [09:52] *** gcw|MBPro has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:08] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:15] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 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[16:17] oh hey phlux [16:17] company i work for uses this DC [16:17] oh neat..small world. [16:18] indeed [16:28] man, IPv6 is taking off... up to like 45 days ago, I've never received an order from an IPv6 address. Now, we're up to 7 (one today) [16:28] flotwig: phlux : small world! [16:28] flotwig: what company? (if you don't mind me asking) [16:28] :) [16:29] up_the_irons: full ambit media [16:29] flotwig: ah cool [16:29] yeah i recognize that name [16:29] up_the_irons: i've made a change to my i3wm, but i don't know how long i'm going to keep it: http://www.phluxbox.com/img/i3_tiny_font.png [16:30] i used to have them split the other way, which allowed my font in weechat to be larger [16:32] phlux: yeah the small font might get tiring on the eyes [16:32] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [16:33] phlux: i have a separate window for weechat, full screen [16:33] up_the_irons: see, if i had multiple monitors, i'd do that [16:34] *** cmeik has joined #arpnetworks [16:35] up_the_irons: unfortunately, i like having a browser open in the same space as my irc window so i can click links and whatnot on irc and discuss them as i'm reading/watching [16:35] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [16:35] *** cmeik is now known as cmeiklejohn [16:35] phlux: ah makes sense [16:35] i could fix that with multiple monitors, though [16:35] yeah [16:35] one monitor strictly for irc, laptop monitor for everything else [16:58] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]) [17:07] *** gcw|MBPro has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [17:19] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [17:47] happy friday guys, i'm making the beta VMs we talked about earlier this week [17:47] i got my email up_the_irons :) [17:47] :) [17:47] now to get dns to go heh [17:49] that got it, had to nat to your ip resolvers [17:52] export PKG_PATH=http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/pub/OpenBSD/5.1/packages/amd64 [17:52] you may want to set that? [17:52] on the automated install [17:55] mercutio: the mirror server is not "production" ready yet, so i don't want VMs to rely on it by default [17:55] ok [17:55] i didn't realise it wasn't production ready [17:55] i thoght centos was going to it autoamtically [17:55] mercutio: for some reason, i couldn't ssh in (for testing), but i gave up and chalked it up to custom IP space [17:56] and maybe you were filtering something in your router [17:56] hmm i could from my existing vps and through ipv6 [17:56] mercutio: well, it's *mostly* production ready [17:56] it may have been asymmetric [17:56] mercutio: i couldn't do it from the vm host, just said connection refused or something [17:56] disk i/o is no faster with no virtio :) [17:57] curious [17:58] hmm i'm not finding anywhere routing via it atm [17:59] of course tcpdumping shows it's working for some random scanner in brazil [18:00] anyway works via ipv6 [18:01] roger [18:01] doesn't have rsync, mtr, zsh etc [18:01] i keep adding things one at a time :) [18:02] Ambiguous: rsync could be rsync-3.0.9-iconv rsync-3.0.9 [18:02] how am i supposed to know which i want? :) [18:02] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:04] heh [18:06] i checked pkg_info on the other host and it had no iconv [18:06] it's curious that disk i/o is slower with no virtio drivers with the new host [18:06] i don't know if it's provisioning or the different qemu-dm [18:07] but openbsd is only adding virtio in like really recent... ie more recent then 5.1 [18:08] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [18:08] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [18:08] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [18:09] Lefty: your beta VM is ready [18:10] up_the_irons: In what way isn't mirrors.arpnetworks.com producation ready? What kind of risks do I take in case I point my VPS to it? It not being online, it not having recieved updates? [18:11] hmm my vm seems frozen [18:11] oh rsync updated a few more [18:11] and now a lot more [18:12] andol: it doesn't have redundant power supplies, so a PS failure would knock it offline. A power strip failure would also knock it offline, or circuit, etc... (although those things have never happened) [18:13] andol: i have a spare PS, so if it were to fail, count the time required to 1) dispatch person to go to data center, 2) replace PS, 3) bring it back up; as the downtime [18:14] up_the_irons: Well, sounds like a risk I can survive taking, thanks. [18:14] my vnc isn't working it seems [18:14] andol: np [18:15] mercutio: reboot? stuck sessioN? it was working when i tried [18:15] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:15] using the password on the page [18:15] password i think [18:15] mercutio: lemme check the pass [18:15] oh hangon [18:15] i didn't cut and paste password [18:15] the font is bad [18:16] yip working [18:16] mercutio: lol, indeed, i just noticed too. that's a capital "I" :) [18:16] the web page font makes I look like l [18:16] yeah [18:16] it does [18:16] bah [18:16] hah you tried pinging 4.2.2.2 too [18:16] well .1 [18:17] http://www.phluxbox.com/img/irc_espn3_keepassx.png [18:17] ? [18:17] wheres the keepass [18:17] o [18:18] theres a window! [18:18] indeed [18:18] its not a terminal app -.- [18:18] nope, it is not. [18:19] i prefer it being gui so i can right-click the website and copy the password to my clipboard [18:19] also, keepassx databases carry over to iOS [18:20] mercutio: yeah :) [18:20] rsync finished but there are weird i/o stalls [18:20] like i only just changed my shell from ksh to zsh [18:20] started tmux and it reverted to ksh [18:20] typed zsh [18:21] it stalled... [18:21] it seems reoccuring [18:21] but i have a recent sys cvs for openbsd [18:21] going to try compiling it to get virtio :) [18:23] bios0: vendor Bochs version "Bochs" date 01/01/2007 [18:23] weird, i thought it was shifting to seabios [18:23] mercutio: it's SeaBIOS [18:24] mercutio: maybe obsd detects it wrong [18:24] mercutio: but it's certainly seabios, check out the boot screen [18:24] i'll check that out when my kernel finishes compiling :) [18:24] bios0: vendor QEMU version "QEMU" date 01/01/2007 [18:24] weird [18:24] that's what my normal vm shows [18:25] they're both showing as 1/1/2007 [18:25] i had 32 bit before though [18:26] are you sure you're on the right VM? ;) [18:26] *** gcw|MBPro has joined #arpnetworks [18:26] yeh, cos one shows qemu one shows bochs [18:26] * up_the_irons shrugs [18:26] well it's also weird it shows 2007 [18:27] maybe it's some kind of compatibility thing [18:27] cos it was done taht years ago [18:27] err that way, and things were detecing it [18:27] You're using BOchs for VMs? :-O [18:27] bochs did the emulation code for early qemu [18:27] kvm uses qemu for virtual devices [18:28] like intel ethernet cards, pci ide interface etc [18:28] vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446" rev 0x00 [18:28] and thigns liek that [18:36] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [18:37] up_the_irons: have you tried the scsi emulation? [18:37] mercutio: not that i recall [18:38] i've been trying to google how openbsd is on other stuff [18:38] well actually it started with trying to see if there's any documented stalling [18:38] and someone was saying that scsi gives good performance on kvm [18:41] mercutio: ah interesting [18:41] tar vxzpf /root/base52.tgz 2.65s user 2.77s system 2% cpu 3:28.40 total [18:41] that to me seems on the slow side [18:42] but it's the stalls that were most annoying [18:42] oh damn i fucked it up [18:42] it's amd64 on that vm [18:42] jdoe: beta vm ready [18:42] yeah [18:43] zsh: exec format error: ls [18:43] i think i'm screwed [18:43] do you think you could mount the recent snapshot of openbsd? [18:44] mercutio: give me a url [18:44] getting one :) [18:44] http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/install52.iso [18:47] mercutio: done. hard reboot as usual [18:47] there's two cdroms :) [18:48] i see seabios too :) [18:50] hmm i don't think that worked [18:51] well booting 4 showed 5.1 [18:51] and booting 5 reverted to hard-disk [18:51] where 5 was second cdrom [18:53] _hard_ reboot :) [18:54] i had [18:54] well shutdown (hard) [18:54] ok i did it twice for good measure now trying booting [18:55] maybe the installer is same as 5.1 [18:56] i think todd said virtio isn't in the installer [18:57] should it be in first or second cdrom? [19:01] mercutio: first [19:01] mercutio: virtio is indeed not in the installer [19:02] i'm reinstalling base51.tgz off the 5.1 cd atm [19:02] for my foobar [19:03] weird, it reverted [19:03] mercutio: bah, give it another hard reboot. for some reason, it went back to 5.1. i dunno if perhaps there was an error and i didn't notice the first time. [19:03] mercutio: i put in 5.2 -current again [19:03] ok after this base51.tgz finishes i'll try it [19:03] i managed to get the installer to install the new bsd [19:03] it's in the default kernels, so i didn't realyl need to compile from source... [19:05] mercutio: roger [19:05] it's painfully slow [19:05] so i think trying scsi or using normal openbsd versions on older machines may make sense [19:06] it could be something like syncing after every write or soemthing [19:06] cos it's when writing i seem to notice [19:07] mercutio: well, there is one very heavy production VM on there (our Cacti server), so non-virtio disks might drag [19:07] mercutio: i can try scsi if you want... i don't know the libvirt arch for it though.. [19:07] perhaps just 'scsi' [19:07] ;) [19:07] well i'm so close to trying the virtio :) [19:08] it says 73% [19:08] the time's been going up so can't use as estimate [19:08] it was at 51% 5 minutes ago [19:08] off topic.. my gawd i am still impressed with how fast new E3 Xeon's do a memtest [19:08] but i don't think the first 50% took as long as the most recent 20% [19:09] e3s are fast at everything [19:09] mercutio: every 5 minutes, there is a load spike b/c of all the graph drawing in Cacti [19:09] yeh i've used cacti :) [19:09] mind you you probably have like 20,000 graphs [19:10] lol [19:10] nah [19:10] probably around 900 though [19:10] it's even slower if you don't have the font setting right i fouind [19:10] o'rly? [19:10] yeh uhh i can't remember what's right/wrong [19:10] it was going slow for me though :) [19:11] when using cacti interactively it was noticable [19:11] http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48337 [19:11] i'll have to look into that [19:11] oh that doesn't show answer [19:11] but basically if showing 20 graphs feels low [19:11] slow [19:12] versus fast [19:12] it's probably that [19:12] 900 on the other hand [19:12] oh sweet it's done [19:12] oh now it has to make device nodes [19:18] talking about monitoring systms i found a recent monitoring system that is lightweight [19:18] and in C [19:18] and it's so much faster :) [19:18] good for load average etc [19:19] and works on at least opensolaris, openbsd, freebsd, ubuntu [19:21] cool that cd works for some reason [19:25] nice [19:26] xymon [19:26] it's got a hedious web ui [19:26] but it seems fast even on my atom [19:26] as a host [19:27] and seems to at least nicely graph load average, disk utilisation, network utilisation, [19:27] as well as connection times to ssh, http etc [19:28] looks like kvm uses if=scsi [19:28] for scsi [19:29] mercutio: want me to set it for scsi? [19:31] going to first see if it boots from upgraded 5.2 [19:31] using the cd upgrade option [19:31] it's at 98% of base52 [19:32] but it also has comp52 and man52.. [19:32] k [19:32] i'll be afk in a minute [19:32] heh [19:32] it'll probably take like 10+ minutes [19:33] there's no rush, if you're away for a while can do it later [19:34] ok cool [19:34] * up_the_irons waners off [19:34] no [19:34] * up_the_irons wanders off [19:45] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [19:47] lol for what it's worth, I've been IPv6 for nearly 10 years... Just so happened to signup for ARP last week :P [16:28:00] man, IPv6 is taking off... up to like 45 days ago, I've never received an order from an IPv6 address. Now, we're up to 7 (one today [19:49] up_the_irons : one of my irc friends were wanting a vpn fer streaming stuff [19:55] hey up_the_irons why no Debian love on the mirror? 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