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| HighJinx | up_the_irons hah.. i think tonight was the first time i ever visited arpnetworks.com xD | [01:01] |
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| flotwig | skuld sux | [13:36] |
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| phlux | truth
what brings you here, flotwig? | [16:17] |
| flotwig | oh hey phlux
company i work for uses this DC | [16:17] |
| phlux | oh neat..small world. | [16:17] |
| flotwig | indeed | [16:18] |
| up_the_irons | man, IPv6 is taking off... up to like 45 days ago, I've never received an order from an IPv6 address. Now, we're up to 7 (one today)
flotwig: phlux : small world! flotwig: what company? (if you don't mind me asking) | [16:28] |
| flotwig | :)
up_the_irons: full ambit media | [16:28] |
| up_the_irons | flotwig: ah cool
yeah i recognize that name | [16:29] |
| phlux | up_the_irons: i've made a change to my i3wm, but i don't know how long i'm going to keep it: http://www.phluxbox.com/img/i3_tiny_font.png
i used to have them split the other way, which allowed my font in weechat to be larger | [16:29] |
| up_the_irons | phlux: yeah the small font might get tiring on the eyes | [16:32] |
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| up_the_irons | phlux: i have a separate window for weechat, full screen | [16:33] |
| phlux | up_the_irons: see, if i had multiple monitors, i'd do that | [16:33] |
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| phlux | up_the_irons: unfortunately, i like having a browser open in the same space as my irc window so i can click links and whatnot on irc and discuss them as i'm reading/watching | [16:35] |
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| up_the_irons | phlux: ah makes sense | [16:35] |
| phlux | i could fix that with multiple monitors, though | [16:35] |
| up_the_irons | yeah | [16:35] |
| phlux | one monitor strictly for irc, laptop monitor for everything else | [16:35] |
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| up_the_irons | happy friday guys, i'm making the beta VMs we talked about earlier this week | [17:47] |
| mercutio | i got my email up_the_irons :) | [17:47] |
| up_the_irons | :) | [17:47] |
| mercutio | now to get dns to go heh
that got it, had to nat to your ip resolvers export PKG_PATH=http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/pub/OpenBSD/5.1/packages/amd64 you may want to set that? on the automated install | [17:47] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: the mirror server is not "production" ready yet, so i don't want VMs to rely on it by default | [17:55] |
| mercutio | ok
i didn't realise it wasn't production ready i thoght centos was going to it autoamtically | [17:55] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: for some reason, i couldn't ssh in (for testing), but i gave up and chalked it up to custom IP space
and maybe you were filtering something in your router | [17:55] |
| mercutio | hmm i could from my existing vps and through ipv6 | [17:56] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: well, it's *mostly* production ready | [17:56] |
| mercutio | it may have been asymmetric | [17:56] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: i couldn't do it from the vm host, just said connection refused or something | [17:56] |
| mercutio | disk i/o is no faster with no virtio :)
curious hmm i'm not finding anywhere routing via it atm of course tcpdumping shows it's working for some random scanner in brazil anyway works via ipv6 | [17:56] |
| up_the_irons | roger | [18:01] |
| mercutio | doesn't have rsync, mtr, zsh etc
i keep adding things one at a time :) Ambiguous: rsync could be rsync-3.0.9-iconv rsync-3.0.9 how am i supposed to know which i want? :) | [18:01] |
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| up_the_irons | heh | [18:04] |
| mercutio | i checked pkg_info on the other host and it had no iconv
it's curious that disk i/o is slower with no virtio drivers with the new host i don't know if it's provisioning or the different qemu-dm but openbsd is only adding virtio in like really recent... ie more recent then 5.1 | [18:06] |
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| up_the_irons | Lefty: your beta VM is ready | [18:09] |
| andol | up_the_irons: In what way isn't mirrors.arpnetworks.com producation ready? What kind of risks do I take in case I point my VPS to it? It not being online, it not having recieved updates? | [18:10] |
| mercutio | hmm my vm seems frozen
oh rsync updated a few more and now a lot more | [18:11] |
| up_the_irons | andol: it doesn't have redundant power supplies, so a PS failure would knock it offline. A power strip failure would also knock it offline, or circuit, etc... (although those things have never happened)
andol: i have a spare PS, so if it were to fail, count the time required to 1) dispatch person to go to data center, 2) replace PS, 3) bring it back up; as the downtime | [18:12] |
| andol | up_the_irons: Well, sounds like a risk I can survive taking, thanks. | [18:14] |
| mercutio | my vnc isn't working it seems | [18:14] |
| up_the_irons | andol: np
mercutio: reboot? stuck sessioN? it was working when i tried | [18:14] |
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| mercutio | using the password on the page
password i think | [18:15] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: lemme check the pass | [18:15] |
| mercutio | oh hangon
i didn't cut and paste password the font is bad yip working | [18:15] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: lol, indeed, i just noticed too. that's a capital "I" :) | [18:16] |
| mercutio | the web page font makes I look like l | [18:16] |
| up_the_irons | yeah
it does bah | [18:16] |
| mercutio | hah you tried pinging 4.2.2.2 too
well .1 | [18:16] |
| phlux | http://www.phluxbox.com/img/irc_espn3_keepassx.png | [18:17] |
| milki | ?
wheres the keepass o theres a window! | [18:17] |
| phlux | indeed | [18:18] |
| milki | its not a terminal app -.- | [18:18] |
| phlux | nope, it is not.
i prefer it being gui so i can right-click the website and copy the password to my clipboard also, keepassx databases carry over to iOS | [18:18] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: yeah :) | [18:20] |
| mercutio | rsync finished but there are weird i/o stalls
like i only just changed my shell from ksh to zsh started tmux and it reverted to ksh typed zsh it stalled... it seems reoccuring but i have a recent sys cvs for openbsd going to try compiling it to get virtio :) bios0: vendor Bochs version "Bochs" date 01/01/2007 weird, i thought it was shifting to seabios | [18:20] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: it's SeaBIOS
mercutio: maybe obsd detects it wrong mercutio: but it's certainly seabios, check out the boot screen | [18:23] |
| mercutio | i'll check that out when my kernel finishes compiling :)
bios0: vendor QEMU version "QEMU" date 01/01/2007 weird that's what my normal vm shows they're both showing as 1/1/2007 i had 32 bit before though | [18:24] |
| up_the_irons | are you sure you're on the right VM? ;) | [18:26] |
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| mercutio | yeh, cos one shows qemu one shows bochs | [18:26] |
| up_the_irons | up_the_irons shrugs | [18:26] |
| mercutio | well it's also weird it shows 2007
maybe it's some kind of compatibility thing cos it was done taht years ago err that way, and things were detecing it | [18:26] |
| CaZe | You're using BOchs for VMs? :-O | [18:27] |
| mercutio | bochs did the emulation code for early qemu
kvm uses qemu for virtual devices like intel ethernet cards, pci ide interface etc vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446" rev 0x00 and thigns liek that | [18:27] |
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| mercutio | up_the_irons: have you tried the scsi emulation? | [18:37] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: not that i recall | [18:37] |
| mercutio | i've been trying to google how openbsd is on other stuff
well actually it started with trying to see if there's any documented stalling and someone was saying that scsi gives good performance on kvm | [18:38] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: ah interesting | [18:41] |
| mercutio | tar vxzpf /root/base52.tgz 2.65s user 2.77s system 2% cpu 3:28.40 total
that to me seems on the slow side but it's the stalls that were most annoying oh damn i fucked it up it's amd64 on that vm | [18:41] |
| up_the_irons | jdoe: beta vm ready
yeah | [18:42] |
| mercutio | zsh: exec format error: ls
i think i'm screwed do you think you could mount the recent snapshot of openbsd? | [18:43] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: give me a url | [18:44] |
| mercutio | getting one :)
http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/install52.iso | [18:44] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: done. hard reboot as usual | [18:47] |
| mercutio | there's two cdroms :)
i see seabios too :) hmm i don't think that worked well booting 4 showed 5.1 and booting 5 reverted to hard-disk where 5 was second cdrom | [18:47] |
| up_the_irons | _hard_ reboot :) | [18:53] |
| mercutio | i had
well shutdown (hard) ok i did it twice for good measure now trying booting maybe the installer is same as 5.1 i think todd said virtio isn't in the installer should it be in first or second cdrom? | [18:54] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: first
mercutio: virtio is indeed not in the installer | [19:01] |
| mercutio | i'm reinstalling base51.tgz off the 5.1 cd atm
for my foobar | [19:02] |
| up_the_irons | weird, it reverted
mercutio: bah, give it another hard reboot. for some reason, it went back to 5.1. i dunno if perhaps there was an error and i didn't notice the first time. mercutio: i put in 5.2 -current again | [19:03] |
| mercutio | ok after this base51.tgz finishes i'll try it
i managed to get the installer to install the new bsd it's in the default kernels, so i didn't realyl need to compile from source... | [19:03] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: roger | [19:05] |
| mercutio | it's painfully slow
so i think trying scsi or using normal openbsd versions on older machines may make sense it could be something like syncing after every write or soemthing cos it's when writing i seem to notice | [19:05] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: well, there is one very heavy production VM on there (our Cacti server), so non-virtio disks might drag
mercutio: i can try scsi if you want... i don't know the libvirt arch for it though.. perhaps just 'scsi' ;) | [19:07] |
| mercutio | well i'm so close to trying the virtio :)
it says 73% the time's been going up so can't use as estimate it was at 51% 5 minutes ago | [19:07] |
| up_the_irons | off topic.. my gawd i am still impressed with how fast new E3 Xeon's do a memtest | [19:08] |
| mercutio | but i don't think the first 50% took as long as the most recent 20%
e3s are fast at everything | [19:08] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: every 5 minutes, there is a load spike b/c of all the graph drawing in Cacti | [19:09] |
| mercutio | yeh i've used cacti :)
mind you you probably have like 20,000 graphs | [19:09] |
| up_the_irons | lol
nah probably around 900 though | [19:10] |
| mercutio | it's even slower if you don't have the font setting right i fouind | [19:10] |
| up_the_irons | o'rly? | [19:10] |
| mercutio | yeh uhh i can't remember what's right/wrong
it was going slow for me though :) when using cacti interactively it was noticable http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48337 | [19:10] |
| up_the_irons | i'll have to look into that | [19:11] |
| mercutio | oh that doesn't show answer
but basically if showing 20 graphs feels low slow versus fast it's probably that 900 on the other hand oh sweet it's done oh now it has to make device nodes | [19:11] |
| talking about monitoring systms i found a recent monitoring system that is lightweight
and in C and it's so much faster :) good for load average etc and works on at least opensolaris, openbsd, freebsd, ubuntu cool that cd works for some reason | [19:18] | |
| up_the_irons | nice | [19:25] |
| mercutio | xymon
it's got a hedious web ui but it seems fast even on my atom as a host and seems to at least nicely graph load average, disk utilisation, network utilisation, as well as connection times to ssh, http etc looks like kvm uses if=scsi for scsi | [19:26] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: want me to set it for scsi? | [19:29] |
| mercutio | going to first see if it boots from upgraded 5.2
using the cd upgrade option it's at 98% of base52 but it also has comp52 and man52.. | [19:31] |
| up_the_irons | k
i'll be afk in a minute | [19:32] |
| mercutio | heh
it'll probably take like 10+ minutes there's no rush, if you're away for a while can do it later | [19:32] |
| up_the_irons | ok cool
up_the_irons waners off no up_the_irons wanders off | [19:34] |
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| brycec | lol for what it's worth, I've been IPv6 for nearly 10 years... Just so happened to signup for ARP last week :P [16:28:00] <up_the_irons> man, IPv6 is taking off... up to like 45 days ago, I've never received an order from an IPv6 address. Now, we're up to 7 (one today | [19:47] |
| HighJinx | up_the_irons : one of my irc friends were wanting a vpn fer streaming stuff | [19:49] |
| brycec | hey up_the_irons why no Debian love on the mirror? | [19:55] |
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| jdoe | up_the_irons: I saw, thanks
and yeah I never unattached the ip | [22:06] |
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