***: Webhostbudd has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) up_the_irons: tabthorpe: awesome, tnx!
toddf: the newer libvirt _still_ does not support reboot. :(
toddf: i will have to do even a further upgrade, but first i gotta get the initial upgrade going. baby steps :)
ryk: hmm... man, why didn't i think about that. a chroot'd home may very well work. but wait, would that still preserve permissions with rsync? you need to be logged in with UID 0 for rsync to be able to set perms. Hmmm... i guess you could make the user UID 0 in /home/foo/etc/passwd
bryc3c: toddf : IIRC, my KB does show cores at $2 per core
the reason i think i hesitated from putting it in the power ups is b/c SMP isn't supported on all guests (like, OpenBSD barfs). maybe i need to get over that. CaZe: Poor OpenBSD. up_the_irons: to be honest, I don't remember what I meant by "Dedicated CPU resources", i wrote that like 3.5 years ago... ;) I probably was contrasting KVM/QEMU to something like OpenVZ, which doesn't really dedicate resources
mercutio: "todd: i wonder if you're on a newer cpu than me" <-- negative. All 26 servers have the exact same specs
Now, the *27th* server is the 2nd gen build that several of you have requested to beta
I have had people report that multiple cores did in fact increase their app performance (e.g. Minecraft server) CaZe: How many VMs on average run on each server? Just out of curiosity. up_the_irons: it seems a lot easier to bottleneck a disk than a cpu; that is indeed where we see the bulk of load
CaZe: it really depends on the server and nature of VMs. but it isn't hard to get 20 on a box. with a ton of cores and RAM, i bet you could do 60 VMs running screen+irssi pretty easily ;) but i've never tried CaZe: Oh, that would be me right now. up_the_irons: lol CaZe: If I want to change to six month billing, do I just create a support ticket? ***: alexstanford has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) up_the_irons: CaZe: yup ***: alexstanford has joined #arpnetworks phlux: which leads me to beg the question: if i want to switch to no billing (re: free vps) do i just create a support ticket? up_the_irons: lol
phlux: i think that is equivalent to cancelation ;) mercutio: up_the_irons: cpu is l5420 or something isn't it?
up: you should be able to do 200+ vm's with screen/irssi
screen/irssi 256mb 200 on a 64gb box
like 8x8gb jbergstroem: you dont need 256m ram for irrsi :)
a slim kernel and tiny linux shoudl work with 56m or something mercutio: yeh
until you run apt-get ***: dzup has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
dzup has joined #arpnetworks ryk: up_the_irons: i think you did mention the rsync difficulty last time we talked about that.
call them up and ask how they get around that :) qbit: you guys should totally send the vps ssh fingerprints in the welcome email
hai ryk
for i in $( ls /etc/ssh/ssh_host_* ); do ssh-keygen -l -f $i; done
somelikethat kraigu: and sign the same email, since if you're gonna be paranoid... ;) bryc3c: heh -: bryc3c thinks up_the_irons keeps some odd hours
bryc3c pokes support@... emailed Monday, still no response ***: Webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks
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ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer qbit: so - a new vps i just got seems to have taken out an ip of have in one of my blocks bryc3c: qbit: please try English again qbit: i had two vps's one with extra 5 ips
and i just got a new vps
( technically 4 because the 5th was used by said vps )
but the new vps used teh 4th ip from that block
reducing my number of ips from 4 to 3 bryc3c: as is policy iirc qbit: sadpanda
mk -: bryc3c consults the faq
qbit consults the espresso machine bryc3c: but imma leave it up to up_the_irons to answer for reals since I haven't found what I'm looking for, yet
closest I found was http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/are-private-ip-addresses-available-for-vps-to-vps-communication
qbit: does you show an additional block under IP_BLOCK in your portal?
Maybe you were given another address, but it automatically setup the VPS with a different one (first available, from your /29)
in which case, just change the IP settings and be happy ***: HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) qbit: i do have IP_BLOCK
but the new vps used the nexta avail from said block bryc3c: qbit: and IP_BLOCK doesn't listed any new addresses? qbit: use your english! bryc3c: damnit 10:10:32 ::: #arpnetworks You're not a channel operator qbit: no :P it lists the range it should - but the new vps took next avail
ha
pwnt bryc3c: *doesn't list any new or additional IP addresses? qbit: no
i had 4 - now i have 3 bryc3c: Well then.. either wait for up_the_irons to respond, or email support@... or maybe someone else here with more knowledge can help -: bryc3c is getting aggravated by the lack of a response from support
qbit looks at how long devio.us has had no "support" CaZe: hehehe devio.us bryc3c: qbit: eh? what do you mean... we have admins@devio.us and I see every one of those emails. qbit: update support
it's still 4.7 bryc3c: yeah that's not the same problem qbit: hence the quotes bryc3c: and bitch all you want... apparently it's not going to do anything qbit: yep -: bryc3c has had long emails and phone calls with Dan begging to let me update wolfman... not gonna happen
bryc3c fights for the users CaZe: Did you guys ever get that premium server going? qbit: nope
well
"going" bryc3c: CaZe: the servers are up and running... qbit: bryc3c has logins
but no one else does bryc3c: But we don't have the new admin stuffs written and therefore cannot add accounts or anything
Also this hardly seems like the right place for a #devious discussion qbit: yeah - your comment about the service reminded me i was gonna cancel :D bryc3c: heh ***: HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks
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jbum has joined #arpnetworks -: bryc3c no longer so annoyed with the lack of response, thx up_the_irons up_the_irons: :)
ryk: lol, or just order a vps ;)
qbit: that's not a bad idea. email feedback@arpnetworks.com and i'll put it in the feature requests queue :)
qbit: bryc3c is right; IPs for any / all services come from your account's IP block(s), they are not assigned to individual VPS' qbit: cool brycec: up_the_irons: but does ordering an additional VPS not include an additional /30? up_the_irons: brycec: no, it does not. first service of anything you order (vps, colo, dedi, etc...) includes a /30, then after that, IPs must be purchased (usually $1 per IP)
a /30 per VPS would waste a lot of IP space brycec: heh, gotit. Exactly what I was trying to confirm (for qbit) :) up_the_irons: :) qbit: yay
thanks for the clarification up_the_irons: np ***: _mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks brycec: up_the_irons: Same question on IPv6 - /64 shared across all VPS? qbit: lol
if you need more than a /64
mind blown up_the_irons: brycec: yup
must have http://www.welovefine.com/3471-what-happens-on-the-holodeck.html qbit: ha that's awesome brycec: haha a certain busty friend of mine has a similar shirt - LCARS design with the same saying. qbit: lol the "expendable" one is awesome too brycec: thanks up_the_irons for handling the upgrade
(if you hadn't matched IRC nick to email yet...) toddf: so... let it be known .. that even though openbsd introduced a fix for some broken soekris mpbios that should help arpnetworks kvms as a side effect, the real effect is that you can install and boot a standard kernel on arpnetworks kvms yet it gets watchdog timeouts on em0 and network interfaces and then freezes. probably chews a bit of cpu also. the fix? the same old workaround: 'disable mpbios' ;-(
with the 'disable mpbios' even 'virtio' networking works fine jdoe: oh, they have virtio networking too? toddf: as of post 5.2
disk support too
though bios in the current production kvms at arpnetworks does not support hooks to boot openbsd off virtio disk (apparently freebsd also) up_the_irons: brycec: np! jdoe: toddf: doh, figured that wouldn't make it into 5.2 up_the_irons: brycec: yeah i made the nick connection toddf: when I'm done decompressing from moving my office and now colo-move in progress, I'll focus on getting it into the installation media also .. if someone else doesn't beat me to it ;-) up_the_irons: toddf: it'll be interesting if the beta VM (newer kvm/qemu/bios) will fix the mpbios issue toddf: now that I have working net and disk (after futzing with tests up_the_iron was gracious enough to let me do) its full steam ahead to move my colo to arpnetworks ;-) up_the_irons: how much colo? I'm getting kinda low on space atm... ***: gcw|MBPro has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: cd $food toddf: up_the_irons: apparently its a buggy release of the bios, so it'll just depend on whether or not the bios is past that release fix or not
up_the_irons: my 2nd vps that I was futzing with the virtio disk/net recently will replace my colo .. so no worries
its just a matter of me having time to transfer services, renumber various things in dns after verifying things are up and working, you know, typical seamless migration strategies and all ***: gcw|MBPro has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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gcw|MBPro has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) phlux: @up_the_iron+│ phlux: i think that is equivalent to cancelation ;)
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Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: oh todd you got network going with virtio!
is there a workaround for the disk ting?
i care about network more then disk :)
they're already doing post 5.2 changes
the changelog show that now, oops :) ***: sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) up_the_irons: toddf: the newer kvm/qemu uses a whole new bios (SeaBIOS instead of Bochs)
toddf: ah, to replace colo, good idea
phlux: lol ***: jbum has quit IRC (Quit: jbum)
cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: why oh why, Lucid, did you break the 'inet6 static' stanza in interface(8) ?
*interfaces phlux: man, i was using kdm to log me into i3, and i found out it was using 100% of one of my cpus
my load averages were in the 1.5 range with i3, 4 instances of urxvt, google-chrome, thunderbird, and keepassx.
i knew something was wrong with that. disabled kdm and networkmanager, and i'm sitting at 0.12 now with all of that loaded
free -m:
-/+ buffers/cache: 604 7136
woot
that's awesome ***: HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
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cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) bryc3c: up_the_irons: Have you seen novnc? It's a javascript/html5 vnc client. Seems like it would be a good fit for the portal. http://kanaka.github.com/noVNC/noVNC/vnc.html up_the_irons: bryc3c: i think i have
bryc3c: something like that will eventually make its way to the portal
bryc3c: that looks pretty sweet actually.. i'd need that bridge thingy though
wow, the screenshots show it used with an ipad
now, that's, hot