tabthorpe: awesome, tnx!
toddf: the newer libvirt _still_ does not support reboot. :(
toddf: i will have to do even a further upgrade, but first i gotta get the initial upgrade going.  baby steps :)
ryk: hmm...  man, why didn't i think about that.  a chroot'd home may very well work.  but wait, would that still preserve permissions with rsync?  you need to be logged in with UID 0 for rsync to be able to set perms.  Hmmm... i guess you could make the user UID 0 in /home/foo/etc/passwd
bryc3c: toddf : IIRC, my KB does show cores at $2 per core
the reason i think i hesitated from putting it in the power ups is b/c SMP isn't supported on all guests (like, OpenBSD barfs).  maybe i need to get over that.
Poor OpenBSD.
to be honest, I don't remember what I meant by "Dedicated CPU resources", i wrote that like 3.5 years ago... ;)  I probably was contrasting KVM/QEMU to something like OpenVZ, which doesn't really dedicate resources
mercutio: "todd: i wonder if you're on a newer cpu than me" <-- negative.  All 26 servers have the exact same specs
Now, the *27th* server is the 2nd gen build that several of you have requested to beta
I have had people report that multiple cores did in fact increase their app performance (e.g. Minecraft server)
How many VMs on average run on each server? Just out of curiosity.
it seems a lot easier to bottleneck a disk than a cpu; that is indeed where we see the bulk of load
CaZe: it really depends on the server and nature of VMs.  but it isn't hard to get 20 on a box.  with a ton of cores and RAM, i bet you could do 60 VMs running screen+irssi pretty easily ;)  but i've never tried
Oh, that would be me right now.
lol
If I want to change to six month billing, do I just create a support ticket?
CaZe: yup
which leads me to beg the question: if i want to switch to no billing (re: free vps) do i just create a support ticket?
lol
phlux: i think that is equivalent to cancelation ;)
up_the_irons: cpu is l5420 or something isn't it?
up: you should be able to do 200+ vm's with screen/irssi
screen/irssi 256mb 200 on a 64gb box
like 8x8gb
you dont need 256m ram for irrsi :)
a slim kernel and tiny linux shoudl work with 56m or something
yeh
until you run apt-get
up_the_irons: i think you did mention the rsync difficulty last time we talked about that.
call them up and ask how they get around that :)
you guys should totally send the vps ssh fingerprints in the welcome email
hai ryk
for i in $( ls /etc/ssh/ssh_host_* ); do ssh-keygen -l -f $i; done
somelikethat
and sign the same email, since if you're gonna be paranoid... ;)
heh
so - a new vps i just got seems to have taken out an ip of have in one of my blocks
qbit: please try English again
i had two vps's one with extra 5 ips
and i just got a new vps
( technically 4 because the 5th was used by said vps )
but the new vps used teh 4th ip from that block
reducing my number of ips from 4 to 3
as is policy iirc
sadpanda
mk
but imma leave it up to up_the_irons to answer for reals since I haven't found what I'm looking for, yet
closest I found was http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/are-private-ip-addresses-available-for-vps-to-vps-communication
qbit: does you show an additional block under IP_BLOCK in your portal?
Maybe you were given another address, but it automatically setup the VPS with a different one (first available, from your /29)
in which case, just change the IP settings and be happy
i do have IP_BLOCK
but the new vps used the nexta avail from said block
qbit: and IP_BLOCK doesn't listed any new addresses?
use your english!
damnit 10:10:32 ::: #arpnetworks You're not a channel operator
no :P it lists the range it should - but the new vps took next avail
ha
pwnt
*doesn't list any new or additional IP addresses?
no
i had 4 - now i have 3
Well then.. either wait for up_the_irons to respond, or email support@... or maybe someone else here with more knowledge can help
hehehe devio.us
qbit: eh? what do you mean... we have admins@devio.us and I see every one of those emails.
update support
it's still 4.7
yeah that's not the same problem
hence the quotes
and bitch all you want... apparently it's not going to do anything
yep
Did you guys ever get that premium server going?
nope
well
"going"
CaZe: the servers are up and running...
bryc3c has logins
but no one else does
But we don't have the new admin stuffs written and therefore cannot add accounts or anything
Also this hardly seems like the right place for a #devious discussion
yeah - your comment about the service reminded me i was gonna cancel :D
heh
:)
ryk: lol, or just order a vps ;)
qbit: that's not a bad idea.  email feedback@arpnetworks.com and i'll put it in the feature requests queue :)
qbit: bryc3c is right; IPs for any / all services come from your account's IP block(s), they are not assigned to individual VPS'
cool
up_the_irons: but does ordering an additional VPS not include an additional /30?
brycec: no, it does not.  first service of anything you order (vps, colo, dedi, etc...) includes a /30, then after that, IPs must be purchased (usually $1 per IP)
a /30 per VPS would waste a lot of IP space
heh, gotit. Exactly what I was trying to confirm (for qbit) :)
:)
yay
thanks for the clarification
np
up_the_irons: Same question on IPv6 - /64 shared across all VPS?
lol
if you need more than a /64
mind blown
brycec: yup
must have http://www.welovefine.com/3471-what-happens-on-the-holodeck.html
ha that's awesome
haha a certain busty friend of mine has a similar shirt - LCARS design with the same saying.
lol the "expendable" one is awesome too
thanks up_the_irons for handling the upgrade
(if you hadn't matched IRC nick to email yet...)
so... let it be known .. that even though openbsd introduced a fix for some broken soekris mpbios that should help arpnetworks kvms as a side effect, the real effect is that you can install and boot a standard kernel on arpnetworks kvms yet it gets watchdog timeouts on em0 and network interfaces and then freezes. probably chews a bit of cpu also. the fix? the same old workaround: 'disable mpbios' ;-(
with the 'disable mpbios' even 'virtio' networking works fine
oh, they have virtio networking too?
as of post 5.2
disk support too
though bios in the current production kvms at arpnetworks does not support hooks to boot openbsd off virtio disk (apparently freebsd also)
brycec: np!
toddf: doh, figured that wouldn't make it into 5.2
brycec: yeah i made the nick connection
when I'm done decompressing from moving my office and now colo-move in progress, I'll focus on getting it into the installation media also .. if someone else doesn't beat me to it ;-)
toddf: it'll be interesting if the beta VM (newer kvm/qemu/bios) will fix the mpbios issue
now that I have working net and disk (after futzing with tests up_the_iron was gracious enough to let me do) its full steam ahead to move my colo to arpnetworks ;-)
how much colo?  I'm getting kinda low on space atm...
cd $food
up_the_irons: apparently its a buggy release of the bios, so it'll just depend on whether or not the bios is past that release fix or not
up_the_irons: my 2nd vps that I was futzing with the virtio disk/net recently will replace my colo .. so no worries
its just a matter of me having time to transfer services, renumber various things in dns after verifying things are up and working, you know, typical seamless migration strategies and all
 @up_the_iron+│ phlux: i think that is equivalent to cancelation ;)
booo
no freebies for you!
oh todd you got network going with virtio!
is there a workaround for the disk ting?
i care about network more then disk :)
they're already doing post 5.2 changes
the changelog show that now, oops :)
toddf: the newer kvm/qemu uses a whole new bios (SeaBIOS instead of Bochs)
toddf: ah, to replace colo, good idea
phlux: lol
why oh why, Lucid, did you break the 'inet6 static' stanza in interface(8) ?
*interfaces
man, i was using kdm to log me into i3, and i found out it was using 100% of one of my cpus
my load averages were in the 1.5 range with i3, 4 instances of urxvt, google-chrome, thunderbird, and keepassx.
i knew something was wrong with that. disabled kdm and networkmanager, and i'm sitting at 0.12 now with all of that loaded
free -m:
-/+ buffers/cache:        604       7136
woot
that's awesome
up_the_irons: Have you seen novnc? It's a javascript/html5 vnc client. Seems like it would be a good fit for the portal. http://kanaka.github.com/noVNC/noVNC/vnc.html
bryc3c: i think i have
bryc3c: something like that will eventually make its way to the portal
bryc3c: that looks pretty sweet actually..  i'd need that bridge thingy though
wow, the screenshots show it used with an ipad
now, that's, hot