#arpnetworks 2012-10-03,Wed

↑back Search ←Prev date Next date→ Show only urls(Click on time to select a line by its url)
WhoWhatWhen
***Ehtyar has quit IRC (Quit: There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.) [00:27]
............... (idle for 1h13mn)
Webhostbudd has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [01:40]
............ (idle for 55mn)
up_the_ironstabthorpe: awesome, tnx!
toddf: the newer libvirt _still_ does not support reboot. :(
toddf: i will have to do even a further upgrade, but first i gotta get the initial upgrade going. baby steps :)
ryk: hmm... man, why didn't i think about that. a chroot'd home may very well work. but wait, would that still preserve permissions with rsync? you need to be logged in with UID 0 for rsync to be able to set perms. Hmmm... i guess you could make the user UID 0 in /home/foo/etc/passwd
bryc3c: toddf : IIRC, my KB does show cores at $2 per core
the reason i think i hesitated from putting it in the power ups is b/c SMP isn't supported on all guests (like, OpenBSD barfs). maybe i need to get over that. 		[02:35]
CaZePoor OpenBSD. [02:41]
up_the_ironsto be honest, I don't remember what I meant by "Dedicated CPU resources", i wrote that like 3.5 years ago... ;) I probably was contrasting KVM/QEMU to something like OpenVZ, which doesn't really dedicate resources
mercutio: "todd: i wonder if you're on a newer cpu than me" <-- negative. All 26 servers have the exact same specs
Now, the *27th* server is the 2nd gen build that several of you have requested to beta
I have had people report that multiple cores did in fact increase their app performance (e.g. Minecraft server) 		[02:41]
CaZeHow many VMs on average run on each server? Just out of curiosity. [02:45]
up_the_ironsit seems a lot easier to bottleneck a disk than a cpu; that is indeed where we see the bulk of load
CaZe: it really depends on the server and nature of VMs. but it isn't hard to get 20 on a box. with a ton of cores and RAM, i bet you could do 60 VMs running screen+irssi pretty easily ;) but i've never tried 		[02:45]
CaZeOh, that would be me right now. [02:50]
up_the_ironslol [02:51]
CaZeIf I want to change to six month billing, do I just create a support ticket? [02:54]
.... (idle for 16mn)
***alexstanford has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [03:10]
up_the_ironsCaZe: yup [03:10]
***alexstanford has joined #arpnetworks [03:10]
phluxwhich leads me to beg the question: if i want to switch to no billing (re: free vps) do i just create a support ticket? [03:20]
....... (idle for 33mn)
up_the_ironslol
phlux: i think that is equivalent to cancelation ;) 		[03:53]
....... (idle for 33mn)
mercutioup_the_irons: cpu is l5420 or something isn't it?
up: you should be able to do 200+ vm's with screen/irssi
screen/irssi 256mb 200 on a 64gb box
like 8x8gb 		[04:26]
........... (idle for 52mn)
jbergstroemyou dont need 256m ram for irrsi :)
a slim kernel and tiny linux shoudl work with 56m or something 		[05:21]
............ (idle for 59mn)
mercutioyeh
until you run apt-get 		[06:20]
***dzup has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
dzup has joined #arpnetworks 		[06:29]
....... (idle for 34mn)
rykup_the_irons: i think you did mention the rsync difficulty last time we talked about that.
call them up and ask how they get around that :) 		[07:05]
......... (idle for 40mn)
qbityou guys should totally send the vps ssh fingerprints in the welcome email
hai ryk
for i in $( ls /etc/ssh/ssh_host_* ); do ssh-keygen -l -f $i; done
somelikethat 		[07:45]
kraiguand sign the same email, since if you're gonna be paranoid... ;) [07:49]
.......... (idle for 49mn)
bryc3cheh
bryc3c thinks up_the_irons keeps some odd hours 		[08:38]
bryc3c pokes support@... emailed Monday, still no response [08:51]
***Webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks [09:04]
...... (idle for 27mn)
sako has joined #arpnetworks
Mexicainvexed has joined #arpnetworks
Mexicainvexed has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
sako has quit IRC (Changing host)
sako has joined #arpnetworks
Mexicainvexed has joined #arpnetworks
Mexicainvexed has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 		[09:31]
heavysixer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer 		[09:43]
qbitso - a new vps i just got seems to have taken out an ip of have in one of my blocks [09:55]
bryc3cqbit: please try English again [09:55]
qbiti had two vps's one with extra 5 ips
and i just got a new vps
( technically 4 because the 5th was used by said vps )
but the new vps used teh 4th ip from that block
reducing my number of ips from 4 to 3 		[09:56]
bryc3cas is policy iirc [09:57]
qbitsadpanda
mk 		[09:57]
bryc3cbryc3c consults the faq [09:57]
qbitqbit consults the espresso machine [09:57]
bryc3cbut imma leave it up to up_the_irons to answer for reals since I haven't found what I'm looking for, yet
closest I found was http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/are-private-ip-addresses-available-for-vps-to-vps-communication

qbit: does you show an additional block under IP_BLOCK in your portal?
Maybe you were given another address, but it automatically setup the VPS with a different one (first available, from your /29)
in which case, just change the IP settings and be happy 		[09:58]
***HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [10:04]
qbiti do have IP_BLOCK
but the new vps used the nexta avail from said block 		[10:08]
bryc3cqbit: and IP_BLOCK doesn't listed any new addresses? [10:09]
qbituse your english! [10:10]
bryc3cdamnit 10:10:32 ::: #arpnetworks You're not a channel operator [10:10]
qbitno :P it lists the range it should - but the new vps took next avail
ha
pwnt 		[10:10]
bryc3c*doesn't list any new or additional IP addresses? [10:10]
qbitno
i had 4 - now i have 3 		[10:10]
bryc3cWell then.. either wait for up_the_irons to respond, or email support@... or maybe someone else here with more knowledge can help
bryc3c is getting aggravated by the lack of a response from support 		[10:11]
qbitqbit looks at how long devio.us has had no "support" [10:13]
CaZehehehe devio.us [10:13]
bryc3cqbit: eh? what do you mean... we have admins@devio.us and I see every one of those emails. [10:13]
qbitupdate support
it's still 4.7 		[10:14]
bryc3cyeah that's not the same problem [10:14]
qbithence the quotes [10:14]
bryc3cand bitch all you want... apparently it's not going to do anything [10:14]
qbityep [10:15]
bryc3cbryc3c has had long emails and phone calls with Dan begging to let me update wolfman... not gonna happen
bryc3c fights for the users 		[10:15]
CaZeDid you guys ever get that premium server going? [10:15]
qbitnope
well
"going" 		[10:15]
bryc3cCaZe: the servers are up and running... [10:15]
qbitbryc3c has logins
but no one else does 		[10:15]
bryc3cBut we don't have the new admin stuffs written and therefore cannot add accounts or anything
Also this hardly seems like the right place for a #devious discussion 		[10:15]
qbityeah - your comment about the service reminded me i was gonna cancel :D [10:16]
bryc3cheh [10:17]
..... (idle for 24mn)
***HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [10:41]
..... (idle for 24mn)
gcw|MBPro has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [11:05]
................. (idle for 1h21mn)
heavysixer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer 		[12:26]
.............. (idle for 1h8mn)
jbum has joined #arpnetworks [13:37]
bryc3cbryc3c no longer so annoyed with the lack of response, thx up_the_irons [13:51]
up_the_irons:)
ryk: lol, or just order a vps ;)
qbit: that's not a bad idea. email feedback@arpnetworks.com and i'll put it in the feature requests queue :)
qbit: bryc3c is right; IPs for any / all services come from your account's IP block(s), they are not assigned to individual VPS' 		[13:53]
qbitcool [13:57]
brycecup_the_irons: but does ordering an additional VPS not include an additional /30? [13:57]
up_the_ironsbrycec: no, it does not. first service of anything you order (vps, colo, dedi, etc...) includes a /30, then after that, IPs must be purchased (usually $1 per IP)
a /30 per VPS would waste a lot of IP space 		[13:59]
brycecheh, gotit. Exactly what I was trying to confirm (for qbit) :) [14:00]
up_the_irons:) [14:00]
qbityay
thanks for the clarification 		[14:00]
up_the_ironsnp [14:00]
***_mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks [14:00]
brycecup_the_irons: Same question on IPv6 - /64 shared across all VPS? [14:01]
qbitlol
if you need more than a /64
mind blown 		[14:01]
up_the_ironsbrycec: yup
must have http://www.welovefine.com/3471-what-happens-on-the-holodeck.html 		[14:02]
qbitha that's awesome [14:03]
brycechaha a certain busty friend of mine has a similar shirt - LCARS design with the same saying. [14:03]
qbitlol the "expendable" one is awesome too [14:04]
brycecthanks up_the_irons for handling the upgrade
(if you hadn't matched IRC nick to email yet...) 		[14:07]
toddfso... let it be known .. that even though openbsd introduced a fix for some broken soekris mpbios that should help arpnetworks kvms as a side effect, the real effect is that you can install and boot a standard kernel on arpnetworks kvms yet it gets watchdog timeouts on em0 and network interfaces and then freezes. probably chews a bit of cpu also. the fix? the same old workaround: 'disable mpbios' ;-(
with the 'disable mpbios' even 'virtio' networking works fine 		[14:09]
jdoeoh, they have virtio networking too? [14:11]
toddfas of post 5.2
disk support too
though bios in the current production kvms at arpnetworks does not support hooks to boot openbsd off virtio disk (apparently freebsd also) 		[14:12]
up_the_ironsbrycec: np! [14:13]
jdoetoddf: doh, figured that wouldn't make it into 5.2 [14:15]
up_the_ironsbrycec: yeah i made the nick connection [14:15]
toddfwhen I'm done decompressing from moving my office and now colo-move in progress, I'll focus on getting it into the installation media also .. if someone else doesn't beat me to it ;-) [14:15]
up_the_ironstoddf: it'll be interesting if the beta VM (newer kvm/qemu/bios) will fix the mpbios issue [14:16]
toddfnow that I have working net and disk (after futzing with tests up_the_iron was gracious enough to let me do) its full steam ahead to move my colo to arpnetworks ;-) [14:16]
up_the_ironshow much colo? I'm getting kinda low on space atm... [14:17]
***gcw|MBPro has joined #arpnetworks [14:18]
up_the_ironscd $food [14:20]
toddfup_the_irons: apparently its a buggy release of the bios, so it'll just depend on whether or not the bios is past that release fix or not
up_the_irons: my 2nd vps that I was futzing with the virtio disk/net recently will replace my colo .. so no worries
its just a matter of me having time to transfer services, renumber various things in dns after verifying things are up and working, you know, typical seamless migration strategies and all 		[14:21]
***gcw|MBPro has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
gcw|MBPro has joined #arpnetworks
gcw|MBPro has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
gcw|MBPro has joined #arpnetworks
gcw|mini1 has joined #arpnetworks
gcw|mini1 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
gcw|MBPro has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 		[14:27]
............... (idle for 1h11mn)
phlux@up_the_iron+│ phlux: i think that is equivalent to cancelation ;)
booo 		[15:48]
.... (idle for 18mn)
***cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks
cmeiklejohn has left "["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]" 		[16:06]
Webhostbudd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [16:12]
bryc3cno freebies for you! [16:13]
***Webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks [16:18]
Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [16:29]
.... (idle for 16mn)
mercutiooh todd you got network going with virtio!
is there a workaround for the disk ting?
i care about network more then disk :)
they're already doing post 5.2 changes
the changelog show that now, oops :) 		[16:45]
.... (idle for 17mn)
***sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [17:03]
up_the_ironstoddf: the newer kvm/qemu uses a whole new bios (SeaBIOS instead of Bochs)
toddf: ah, to replace colo, good idea
phlux: lol 		[17:14]
...... (idle for 25mn)
***jbum has quit IRC (Quit: jbum) [17:40]
...... (idle for 27mn)
cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks [18:07]
..... (idle for 24mn)
up_the_ironswhy oh why, Lucid, did you break the 'inet6 static' stanza in interface(8) ?
*interfaces 		[18:31]
phluxman, i was using kdm to log me into i3, and i found out it was using 100% of one of my cpus
my load averages were in the 1.5 range with i3, 4 instances of urxvt, google-chrome, thunderbird, and keepassx.
i knew something was wrong with that. disabled kdm and networkmanager, and i'm sitting at 0.12 now with all of that loaded
free -m:
-/+ buffers/cache: 604 7136
woot
that's awesome 		[18:33]
.... (idle for 16mn)
***HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [18:51]
..... (idle for 21mn)
cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [19:12]
HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks
cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks 		[19:24]
andol has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [19:32]
andol has joined #arpnetworks [19:45]
............... (idle for 1h11mn)
cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:56]
cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks [21:01]
...... (idle for 27mn)
gcw|MBPro has joined #arpnetworks [21:28]
.......... (idle for 46mn)
cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks 		[22:14]
...... (idle for 25mn)
cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:40]
......... (idle for 44mn)
bryc3cup_the_irons: Have you seen novnc? It's a javascript/html5 vnc client. Seems like it would be a good fit for the portal. http://kanaka.github.com/noVNC/noVNC/vnc.html [23:24]
up_the_ironsbryc3c: i think i have
bryc3c: something like that will eventually make its way to the portal
bryc3c: that looks pretty sweet actually.. i'd need that bridge thingy though
wow, the screenshots show it used with an ipad
now, that's, hot 		[23:29]
↑back Search ←Prev date Next date→ Show only urls(Click on time to select a line by its url)