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| dr_jkl | okay,
the fact that i am trying to do linux things on a bsd system is a surefire sign that i need sleep | [00:33] | |
| up_the_irons | lol | [00:33] | |
| dr_jkl | the best part is the lines in my history that are like
/etc/*tab* *tab* *tab* *tab* OH GOD WHY DON'T YOU W--- /usr/local/etc/*tab* ohhhhyeah. seriously. sleep is good, right? lol dr_jkl puts the kettle on for valerian tea | [00:34] | |
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| up_the_irons | dr_jkl: lol
dr_jkl: i am horrible at taking my own advice on this, but i find if i sleep more then i solve problems faster and i surprise myself with how much i can get done in a short amount of time | [00:52] | |
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| dr_jkl | i took a nine day holiday from work
came back today to some code i was writing before i left went 'what the fuck was i thinking', rm'd the whole thing and started over lol i should, like, do something with my arpnetworks box it just sits there atm in a very defensible and very idle position i bought one a long while ago because i was like ooo freebsd vps hosting this is different | [00:53] | |
| up_the_irons | lol
yup :) | [00:55] | |
| dr_jkl | so i've had it for
a while Welcome to ARP Networks, Inc. VPS Services [5/23/11] and i ahven't done a fucking thing with it lol well. i should say. i logged in and fixed sshd and compiled fail2ban | [00:56] | |
| mike-burns | Toss screen and weechat on it and you'll be close to the same usage as most of us. | [00:58] | |
| dr_jkl | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeechat
meh, weechat tries too hard to be irssi+ irsy-plus | [00:58] | |
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| dr_jkl | my only bitch about the service is that i can't adjust my password for vnc from the default-password-i-got-at-signup-that-i-can't-be-arsed-to-remember
but that's why i keep emails from like, 1998 someday i'll be independently wealthy, and i will own a car again. heh | [01:00] | |
| mike-burns | Or you could move to one of those hippie biking cities. | [01:06] | |
| dr_jkl | i _am_ part hippie, that might work. | [01:08] | |
| mike-burns | (I live in one of those cities.) | [01:09] | |
| up_the_irons | dr_jkl: we can change that password for you if you like (and not send it over email ;)
dr_jkl: but i disagree, weechat is way better than irssi. vertical split windows, input bar right under the correct window (no more mistakes of typing in the wrong channel), automatic nick colors, more than just perl plugin support, etc... :) hmm... you can buy just the chassis of blade box we have
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| dr_jkl | well yes there's that
ahh supermicro <3 | [01:29] | |
| up_the_irons | now, supermicro lists the chassis and backplane as separate part numbers, so that begs the question... does the chassis come with the backplane or not? | [01:29] | |
| dr_jkl | well
hmm i suspect it would | [01:29] | |
| up_the_irons | $1600 for a spare chassis, just sitting there, isn't _too_ bad a price...
dr_jkl: yeah me too | [01:30] | |
| dr_jkl | i mean, you'd need a way to get a new backplane when the current one goes tits up | [01:30] | |
| nixbag | up_the_irons: you are a night owl, aren't you? | [01:31] | |
| up_the_irons | nixbag: very much so | [01:31] | |
| dr_jkl | gabxin sounds like some new drug to treat don't-give-a-shit-itis
talk to your doctor about gabxin. | [01:31] | |
| up_the_irons | dr_jkl: right.. for the sake of expedience, i would imagine just popping the blades into a new chassis, should the first fail, is a much better option than trying to replace the backplane... | [01:32] | |
| dr_jkl | well yes but you said 'a chassis just sitting there', meaning you could fix the broken one after you swap :D
i'm going to hell someone asked me to play the cashier game | [01:32] | |
| nixbag | dr_jkl: i wish there was a drug for that. well wakefulness is sort of that drug. | [01:33] | |
| dr_jkl | where you pick three things to try and squick the cashier
i'm pretty sure i just won | [01:34] | |
| up_the_irons | dr_jkl: would be nice to fix original chassis, yeah | [01:34] | |
| dr_jkl | kool aid mix, magnesium citrate saline oral laxative solution, and dixie cups
oh jesus i put water on for tea like an hour ago lol | [01:34] | |
| up_the_irons | dr_jkl: hahahhaah | [01:37] | |
| jlgaddis | < dr_jkl> gabxin sounds like some new drug to treat don't-give-a-shit-itis <-- sounds about like this case of anal glaucoma i've had
can't see my ass going to work | [01:37] | |
| mike-burns | jlgaddis just out-squicked everyone here. | [01:38] | |
| dr_jkl | do not confuse anal glaucoma with a cranio-rectal inversion | [01:38] | |
| jlgaddis | mike-burns: i try =) | [01:39] | |
| dr_jkl | the former is -- what jlgaddis said, the latter is usually what your coworker has :D
it's the most creative way i know to tell someone their head's up their own ass okay. tea is had. dr_jkl makes way to bed, lest she pass out here and wake up with waffle face again | [01:40] | |
| up_the_irons | up_the_irons does the same | [01:45] | |
| jlgaddis | jlgaddis powers true, continuing to beat cisco gear into submission
SpaceDump:true:through: hrm, guess irssi autocompletes when you do that. s/SpaceDump/s/ (regex'd my regex) | [01:46] | |
| SpaceDump | :D | [01:49] | |
| mike-burns | Hah. | [01:51] | |
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| jlgaddis | PROTIP: before declaring a device dead, ensure that the power cord is plugged in | [02:38] | |
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| LEMONed | guys, plz tell me there's something wrong with the kvr16 console
have been unable to connect | [08:07] | |
| milki | jlgaddis: lol | [08:08] | |
| LEMONed | another vps on kvr17 works fine
im afraid i'll have to open another ticket.. | [08:15] | |
| toddf | can you guys resolve 2001:470:ba1b::251 ? | [08:27] | |
| ant | $ host 2001:470:ba1b::251
1.5.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.b.1.a.b.0.7.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa domain name pointer pf.freedaemonhosting.com. | [08:28] | |
| toddf | I setup reverse dns on it yesterday so arpnetworks could receive email from me. it's ttl is 6h and it's been over 24h and I still get 'dsn=4.7.1, stat=Deferred: 450 4.7.1 <unknown[2001:470:ba1b::251]>: Client host rejected: reverse lookup failure, be patient' ..
so reverse dns does work. somehow the mta is slow to notice ;-( it looked like it was working to me (tried querying google's 8.8.8.8 server) but I've been known to come to wrong conclusions before. thanks for the confirmation, ant | [08:28] | |
| ant | np
toddf: oh, just noticed: pf.freedaemonhosting.com has IPv6 address 2001:470:ba1b:100::4a toddf: maybe that's the problem? | [08:31] | |
| toddf | unknown -> can't resolve reverse
both ips end up at the same system | [08:35] | |
| plett | toddf: The forward doesn't match the reverse | [08:42] | |
| LEMONed | toddf: any idea why the serial console is unconnectable?
^Eco = [connecting...down] | [08:42] | |
| toddf | plett: seriously? ugh. I will change that, but I doubt thats the problem.
lemoned: wish I could help you, checking to see if my serial console works.. does your vnc console work? | [08:43] | |
| LEMONed | this one is on kvr16. another one on kvr17 works fine | [08:44] | |
| plett | toddf: Well, Only up_the_irons can say what arp's mail server is checking, but matching forward and reverse is quite a common thing for people to check | [08:44] | |
| toddf | does the vnc console on kvr16 work? | [08:44] | |
| LEMONed | VNC never worked for me, not once. | [08:44] | |
| toddf | I've seen people check that things resolve in general. insisting on forward and reverse matching precisely seems a tad overboard ..
lemoned: then I'd bet that somewhere something has misprogrammed how to connect to the kvm instance your vps is running under. support ticket would be my recommendation. I'm on kvr14 looks like, and serial console works for me. but you're also on kvr17 and works for you there as well. plett: wouldn't it say <pf.freedaemonhosting.com[2001:470:ba1b::251]> instead of <unknown[2001:470:ba1b::251]> if it was forward+reverse mismatch? ugh goole search for that term suggests you're right plett, I'll fix the forward+reverse *sigh* | [08:44] | |
| LEMONed | toddf: alright... thx! | [08:48] | |
| LT | one thing you could try LEMONed is shutting the machine down from the console then restarting if it's not a production machine
I seem to remember things can sometimes get out of sync and using the console to power off and restart fixes things | [08:50] | |
| toddf | LT: he said it has never worked for him. hence my suggestion of a confused 'where should the serial console + vnc connect to' record somewhere. but shutting it down and starting it up seems an easy thing to try, and has fixed some bogus issues in the past as well. never hurts if you can do it ;-) | [08:51] | |
| LT | may have never power cycled the machine either though... it has to be powered off from the console, not just a soft restart | [08:58] | |
| toddf | if he can't get to the console then it would need to be from the portal. ;-) | [08:58] | |
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| toddf | dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as 2D3CA2DB81)
woot! I can now send up_the_irons email! I feel so modern! | [10:20] | |
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| jdoe | lol | [10:36] | |
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| toddf | using ksh, http://todd.fries.net/pub/nscheck .. checks the dns of the zones given as arguments incase anybody needed a 'interogate your dns setup for your domain' script. I'm waiting on propogation delays for freedaemonhosting.com to be .. fixed properly, never knew till I wrote this script (could have seen, but much easier with this than without) | [11:34] | |
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| jdoe | I usually stick with the generic online tools that are a bit more in depth... .de in particular are a bunch of nazis.
checking your SOA record to be sure it matches what THEY think is reasonable. | [12:05] | |
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| LEMONed | toddf: earlier i meant vnc never worked for me. | [12:33] | |
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| toddf | heh
jdoe: sure, everybody uses the web these days. green screeners are a dying breed, the command prompt will be replaced by the paperclip, and dinosaurs will roam the earth again. | [13:38] | |
| milki | back when we flipped bits with our teeth
like real men | [13:46] | |
| toddf | up hill both ways in the snow etc etc | [13:47] | |
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| flotwig | ploop | [15:08] | |
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| up_the_irons | flop
LEMONed: the serial console problem was on my end, sorry. I'm sure you've read the ticket by now. toddf: wee, i got your email :) | [15:39] | |
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| kraigu | milki: nah, we dreamed of being able to flip bits. WHEN I WAS YOUR AGE, WE SETTLED FOR KEEPING THE BITS IN THE STATE WE WERE GIVEN THEM AND WE LIKED IT. | [16:01] | |
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| LEMONed | up_the_irons: yea. thank you! | [16:04] | |
| up_the_irons | np! | [16:05] | |
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| milki | kraigu: bah, primitive ancients
being able to flip bits is a sign of intelligence | [16:12] | |
| kraigu | milki: respect for your elders :( | [16:21] | |
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| jdoe | toddf: well, if/when your script performs the same checks, I'll be happy to run it instead ;)
I use the web checks out of laziness, because I don't care enough to write the same thing in [some cli form] | [16:33] | |
| up_the_irons | up_the_irons whistles a song | [16:40] | |
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| kraigu | up_the_irons is gangnam style :[17:47] <up_the_irons> wut
you were whistling! | [17:46] | |
| up_the_irons | is stuff like this helpful to anyone: http://wiki.arpnetworks.com/wiki/incident-report-09-25-2012-kvr25-unexpected-shutdown-and-power-control-fault
we write these internally and today i thought, i wonder if making them public would be of any use | [18:01] | |
| kraigu | up_the_irons: if it affected my own VPS, sure :D
but generally I trust companies that disclose things like that voluntarily more than companies that go oh hey 99.999999999% uptime!!!!!@@ | [18:04] | |
| up_the_irons | kraigu: outage reports are sent anyway (via email) but they are just basic summaries. so i'm wondering if the full report is useful at all.
kraigu: yeah, same here | [18:05] | |
| kraigu | if you're doing it anyway, internally
why not? | [18:06] | |
| up_the_irons | cuz it is a little bit of a PITA stuffing it into the wiki and removing stuff that might pose a security issue | [18:07] | |
| kraigu | yeah, I hear you | [18:08] | |
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| jdoe | I don't. FULL DISCLOSURE.
jdoe ducks | [18:53] | |
| kraigu | kraigu pokes jdoe's eardrums out | [18:59] | |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: that's way better than most people's incident reports
although what i'm curious about is what actually happened to the box i assume that'll take a while to determine though | [19:04] | |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: yeah and with our work load it may not even be really worth it to figure out at this time. i've seen backplane failures before so i'm just going to assume it is that for now. the immediate need is to build a new spare now that the current one is in use.
mercutio: the dead box is on my workbench at the moment; i don't see any obvious problem with it (burns, etc...) | [19:06] | |
| kraigu | up_the_irons: hit it with a fireaxe, then you'll *know* what the problem is. "gaping hole in case, damaged CPU" | [19:15] | |
| up_the_irons | kraigu: lol | [19:15] | |
| kraigu | kraigu is no longer allowed to touch servers | [19:16] | |
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| up_the_irons | up_the_irons keeps kraigu from touching ANYTHING | [19:16] | |
| kraigu | even myself?
bye bye sex life :( | [19:16] | |
| mercutio | kraigu: sounds good | [19:23] | |
| up_the_irons | lol | [19:23] | |
| mercutio | hardware is annoying to deal with | [19:23] | |
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| jdoe | (kraigu solves that by not having any.)
*rimshot* | [19:35] | |
| kraigu | wait
are we talking about sexlife or hardware here? :( I have neither, not since up_the_irons banned me from touching anything, but I just want to be clear in which way you're insulting me so I can fashion my voodoo rites accordingly | [19:37] | |
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| mnathani | Hi toddf: I tried your nscheck on a centos6 system after installing ksh, and get a few errors like: ./nscheck[18]: local: not found [No such file or directory] | [19:59] | |
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| jlgaddis | < kraigu> but generally I trust companies that disclose things like that voluntarily <-- +1
up_the_irons: as an IT guy, it helps me to understand what happened and not get pissed. take that fwiw. =) like the other day, if all i knew was "physical server down" i wouldn't have been nearly as patient. you mentioned what (you thought) was going on and i thought "oh, shit, yeah, that sucks. okay." and went on about my business. | [20:56] | |
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