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[16:17] *** mnathani has joined #arpnetworks [16:18] jbergstroem: have you sent a support ticket yet? we like to have those for tracking... [16:19] oh, sorry about that. irc is just too convenient [16:21] *** zeeshoem has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [16:24] jbergstroem: yeah, it's just that we don't get notified of any request you ask in irc, but we do if a ticket is opened [16:28] IRC to RT email! [16:28] lol [16:30] *** bGeorge has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:30] *** Yamazaki-kun has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:30] *** Yamazaki-kun has joined #arpnetworks [16:31] *** bGeorge has joined #arpnetworks [16:40] jbergstroem: what kind of load balancing are you referring to? disparate networks, VRRP, cold standby's... ? [16:40] jbergstroem: (bringing your question in the public channel b/c others may have the same question) [16:43] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [16:43] very really real problems [16:45] qbit: say wut [16:45] VRRP [16:51] qbit: hahaha [16:51] yeah i'm trying to avoid it, or perhaps do it only on special request. we've been experimenting with different setups / scenarios. VLAN pre-built on separate router, but shutdown, and a manual "failover" is probably the way we're gonna go [16:51] up_the_irons: kind of open for discussion tbh. manual failover with own-implemented heartbeat/similar would be fine as a start [16:52] jbergstroem: if you have a /29 or larger and would want VRRP, we could probably set that up for you (the equipment is almost in place, just haven't set up VRRP yet). there are probably better scenarios if you are willing to go beyond the traditional "single gateway" model, such as taking 2 default routes from us (would be terminated on separate routers, obviously), or even doing like ibgp or [16:52] ospf [16:53] if you have 2 VMs in a VLAN, would be easier to fail the IP between them [16:53] or are we not talking about host redundancy, but upstream network? [16:53] it really comes down to what level of complexity you want and where the balance is between that complexity vs. uptime coupled with the fact that complexity can obviously lead to downtime in and of itself [16:59] at the moment my main 'concern' is host redundancy [16:59] josephb: i think jbergstroem means upstream network [16:59] oh, n/m [16:59] upstream wise i haven't really looked into yet [16:59] jbergstroem: two VMs with CARP, or keepalivd, etc... might work [16:59] up_the_irons: yep, probably doing that. just wanted to ask what kind of infrastructre you had for that. some other hosts i used had those virtualized routers/switches from juniper (ex42xx right?) which allowed me to do moar things through there. [16:59] i should make my irc bot all distributedie [16:59] error: unable to create temporary sha1 filename : No space left on device [16:59] error: unable to create temporary sha1 filename : No space left on device [16:59] ewps [16:59] stupid inodes [16:59] and not manyofthem [17:11] jbergstroem: VMs belonging to the same account are on the same private VLAN, so they have unfetered layer-2 access between them. a little more detail is here: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/are-private-ip-addresses-available-for-vps-to-vps-communication [17:11] jbergstroem: no juniper stuff over here, but if you want a specific protocol, let me know and i'll see if I can provide [17:12] up_the_irons: ok, thanks. [17:13] np [17:21] *** mtve has joined #arpnetworks [18:11] *** easymac has joined #arpnetworks [18:11] *** easymac has quit IRC (Changing host) [18:11] *** easymac has joined #arpnetworks [19:02] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 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