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Webhostbudd_ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) up_the_irons: nixbag: nice nick ;) -: up_the_irons is playing around with Gentoo nixbag: up_the_irons: ty :) stands for the two things i love most. *nix OS's and footbag. up_the_irons: nixbag: LOL!
nixbag: makes sense! nixbag: <--- pinkus up_the_irons: nixbag: yeah i could tell from your IP ;) nixbag: haha, you hacker. up_the_irons: No installer in Gentoo; LOL, you have to get down and dirty. love it nixbag: i just recently tried the arch install method. my first time having to chroot to get a system bootable.
i'm a ways from trying gentoo :) ***: HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks nixbag: freebsd is nice so far, but i'm still more familiar with linux right now. ***: fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink)
LT has joined #arpnetworks nixbag: i'm moving back to cali in a month or two. up_the_irons: nixbag: nice!
nixbag: so you tried archlinux? nixbag: up_the_irons: yeah that's what i have on my home desktop at the moment. up_the_irons: SpaceDump: not sure if you noticed, but we're part of the NLNOG RING now :)
nixbag: oh nice, how do you like it? is pacman a good package manager? nixbag: up_the_irons: pacman itself is nice, but i've run into a circular dependency problem on day 1.
up_the_irons: so it's maybe not quite as good as apt.
up_the_irons: it also lacks many packages, but things like abs (kinda like ports/portage) and AUR make up for it. SpaceDump: up_the_irons: I saw the mail. Great! :D up_the_irons: SpaceDump: :)
nixbag: ah cool nixbag: up_the_irons: i still prefer apt and will probably go back to debian in a month. up_the_irons: nixbag: apt is alright; somewhat messy but it is practical. i hardly ever have problems and updates take seconds. nixbag: up_the_irons: have you ever used dwm or i3 window managers? LT: the thing that bothered me about arch last time I tried it is none of the packages are signed up_the_irons: nixbag: no, i've used: fvwm2, wmii, and (currently) xmonad
LT: no signed packages?? dang nixbag: LT: yeah arch is bad at security. up_the_irons: well, jeez nixbag: i think arch is just a 'use at your own risk' distros with emphasis on minimalism for desktop use. up_the_irons: how can i make a template for arch if I don't even know the files I'm getting are legit nixbag: up_the_irons: i wanted to try xmonad, i have heard nothing but good things about it. up_the_irons: nixbag: been using it for years now; it's the shiznitz nixbag: i'll give it a try. it's gotta be more convenient to configure than dwm
but i am at work now and tomorrow, so i have to wait until saturday.
up_the_irons: have you gone to any concerts lately? up_the_irons: nixbag: lol, actually configuring xmonad involves writing Haskell; so, "convenient" is relative
nixbag: no, been way too busy; i even missed Maiden in august, and that's like the first time in 8 years nixbag: oh haha. with dwm you need to edit the config.h in the source, thenr ecompile. up_the_irons: nixbag: what about u? nixbag: then recompile* up_the_irons: yeah, xmonad is a recompile too, but it's very quick nixbag: last concert i was at was maiden when they were at the Forum.
which was a good many years ago. up_the_irons: whoa
i was there too
too bad we didn't coordinate!
i was in the pit, where for the first time i saw many people just trying not to get killed nixbag: haha wow up_the_irons: the forum pit is brutal (way too big). the pit in irvine is way better (very small)
not enough people too push or trample you, lol
*to nixbag: yeah i'd hate to get trampled.
up_the_irons: have you heard of a company called Cerner? up_the_irons: nixbag: no nixbag: they do programming training, and i think they do a lot of medical programs.
there are a few of them in cali, and even one here in missouri.
might be the easiest way for me to get a foot into programming.
i've used the most popular medical programs that i think they work on. up_the_irons: nixbag: oh that's a nice angle nixbag: so i know the software from the user perspective.
maybe hospitals don't use linux because there is no linux equivalent software.
and if there isn't, that could be a huge opportunity. up_the_irons: nixbag: you should talk to jpalmer, he manages IT equipment in hospitals nixbag: hospital IT is definitely another interest for me :)
but i have to build up some experience first. up_the_irons: yeah nixbag: what does entry level entail nowadays?
network+ certification? or higher?
for hospitals, i would guess microsoft certification. havent seen any hospitals that don't use windows. up_the_irons: nixbag: no idea
anyone know a good sFlow collector for Linux? LT: inmon traffic sentinel but it's $$$ up_the_irons: i c LT: though if you're only collecting from a few devices it might not be too bad, it's once you jump to the unlimited device license the cost rockets iirc
you could try qosient argus - sflow support in it is relatively new and I haven't tried it, but it works for other things
otherwise it's possible to use sflowtools to translate sflow to netflow and use various netflow frontends up_the_irons: ah interesting
i just wanna play around with sflow on my foundry switch
never had a switch have hardware sflow that didn't require an expensive add-on card ;) LT: didn't you get some extreme stuff as well? thought they all did hardware sflow ***: dzup has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
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dzup has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: LT: i do have one extreme switch i got a while back. never looked into the sflow on it. perhaps you're right
i have the X350 LT: I know the X450 does, so would be surprised if the X350 didn't, but I couldn't say without looking it up. see if show sflow does anything up_the_irons: success
s6.lax.1 # sh sflow
SFLOW Global Configuration
Global Status: disabled
...
LT: ^
dang, nice mercutio: there's meant to be a sflow to netflow convertor jlgaddis: i wrote some sflow -> mysql stuff when i was at the .edu, dunno if i still have copies of it or not nixbag: up_the_irons: time to wrap up my shift then head home. i'll come by here more often :) ***: nixbag has left kraigu: up_the_irons: if you do go with sflow -> netflow, I can't recommend nfdump and netflow-indexer enough
I use both of them daily, so nice.
https://github.com/JustinAzoff/netflow-indexer and http://nfdump.sourceforge.net/
you might find talk of flow-tools; it doesn't support ipv6 and its language is kind of nice but also kind of weird anyway. ***: fink has joined #arpnetworks
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HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks fink: freebsd is the king of nixes segv: meh
I say netbsd on my gamecube was
but then again netbsd runs on pretty much anything fink: segv: that sounds awesome milki: gamecube -.- segv: haha fink: i have a gen1 xbox, what should i do with it? segv: Install everything you can on it till it breaks jdoe: throw it away? fink: i want a practical purpose jdoe: doorstop.
paperweight. segv: cat annoyance device? jdoe: fill it with lead and make a boat anchor. segv: have a cd tray eject every Nth minutes fink: jdoe: i like the concept of giving life to old electronics, rather than sending it to a landfill milki: i have a gen1 xbox too, the dvd drive is broken -.- segv: "damn
I had my desktop do that milki: if you can install xbmc on it, you wont need the dvd drive segv: had a webcam aimed at my desktop and watched my cats try to destroy it milki: LOL segv: I got one of those cool 2-way webcams
was like 80 bucks on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1JW0F03762&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_- milki: ugh
i hate that foscam model segv: Why? milki: the software was so kludgy fink: segv: works with freebsd? segv: milki: ah what did you replace it with? milki: it has its own web interface for controls
we didnt
it was for a project segv: ah milki: so we just cried and used perl to access the api segv: haha
Perl shouldn't make you cry. milki: nope, but the api does segv: haha
I have many API's that make me cringe.
Like googles Adwords SOAP api :( RandalSchwartz: if the answer is SOAP you asked the wrong question :) fink: hi RandalSchwartz RandalSchwartz: hey segv: haha milki: soap was cool for a while fink: RandalSchwartz: finally back, you are RandalSchwartz: yeah, I keep forgetting to join this channel when I'm back from having left. :) fink: could really have used your help a couple months ago, when my zfs on root upgrade hosed the boot blocks on my vps
or, you could update your blog… milki: lol
so much demand for RandalSchwartz segv: haha
what happens when you're RandalSchwartz fink: i guess your life is like a constant gangnam style music video RandalSchwartz: I update G+ now
and it flows to twitter and facebook segv: yay RandalSchwartz: I have about 19k followers on G_+ segv: I love that, get to update everything w/out having to update it everywhere on your own RandalSchwartz: oh - only 18k fink: pshaw, peanuts
i have 18K segv: I have hmm
I barely use google plus
well I barely use social media in the first place fink: segv: it's ok to be a recluse segv: well, i'm not a recluse, just have nothing useful to say
I'm a systems engineer by day, lazy mofo by night haha kraigu: fink: it's cheating if they're the pornbots fink: segv: so, what are your friday night plans? segv: Sleep. fink: kraigu: SHHH
segv: tron marathon in the basement? segv: But, being in san francisco RandalSchwartz: ... https://plus.google.com/photos/114918475211209783081/albums/5790660769668722321/5790660771634129586 segv: I should go do something fink: segv: SF? omg you could actually LARP tron! segv: yes, yes I could.
I've seen hack the planet reenacted (the phonebooth scene) before.
That was ridiculous
Don't get a bunch of drunk infosec people together.... kraigu: they have to be drunk? segv: not always
but its definitely funnier when they are kraigu: nah fink: kraigu: it's better when they are, or at least you are kraigu: just YOU hav... yeah
a state of being I aspire to segv: I am still hungover from last night x-x kraigu: this week has been one of those months fink: RandalSchwartz: i +1d you
not that you'd notice, with your legion of followers segv: kraigu: Indeed it has RandalSchwartz: yeay! segv: sore throat fail, i haven't been able to kick this cold for a week and a half ***: DaCa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) fink: segv: go running, then bundle up, take a shitload of nyquil, and sweat it out while you sleep
in the morning, you'll be drenched, but it will be gone
also, drink a lot of water segv: i've been chugging water like i've been standing under a waterfall ***: Ehtyar has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks segv: What would you guys recommend over cacti, I have about 40 switches I need to monitor bandwidth on jdoe: nagios?
... or mrtg, depending on what you mean by monitor bandwidth... milki: why does sweating help? segv: milki: it causes the body to expel the toxins in your system andol: segv: I would say that you might want both mrtg/cacti as well as nagios. segv: Already have nagios up and running not a big deal
guess i'll go the cacti route
just wondering if there was some new simpler tools out there, looking at bandwidthd right now twobithacker: segv: Observium ***: dzup has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) segv: ah
nice ***: dzup has joined #arpnetworks
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milki has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) Lefty: segv: also, collectd+graphite is so nice up_the_irons: kraigu: ah, tnx for the netflow suggestions ***: milki has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: segv : is the G+ syndication to FB and Twitter built into G+ or a 3rd party app?
RandalSchwartz: 19k followers on G+?? I didn't know G+ even had that many members ;) OH SNAP.. milki: lol
i thought everyone with a google account has a g+ account up_the_irons: segv: what do you want to monitor on those switches? Just bandwidth?
we use cacti over here..
but we don't have 40 switches (however, we do have hundreds of vlans) segv: do you vlan off every machine? ***: ryk has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) henderb: segv: I believe there is one vlan per customer ***: ryk has joined #arpnetworks
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ryk has joined #arpnetworks segv: ah cool pjs: Yea.. each client has all their instances on a private vlan.. which is pretty awesome andol: Nice indeed! segv: that's badass
had no clue, but that rocks ***: fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) jdoe: lol
(at sweating, toxins etc)
sweating doesn't help directly, raising your body's temperature helps to kill bacterial shit (see also: fever)
you can't sweat out a cold :P RandalSchwartz: up_the_irons - my autoposter has many steps :)
first, I had to look up the google API... found one for "search public posts"
then I got a G+ API key
then I wrote a pipes.yahoo.com recipe to perform the search and provide an RSS feed.
then I feed that into twitterfeed.com, which knows how to post to twitter and facebook.
that last part I could have used ifttt.com instead
but I've used twitterfeed for far longer up_the_irons: segv: indeed, the others speak the truth segv: haha
well yeah, I manage my wifes vps with you guys :p love this setup up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: oh i c
segv: :) RandalSchwartz: if only G+ had continued providing the RSS feed directly... :) dr_jkl: mmm it's my birthday on monday :/
idk what to do RandalSchwartz: get older! segv: dr_jkl: sleep.
It helps with age. up_the_irons: lol segv: I am 27 and sleep feels like this all amazing thing i've been missing for a few years now dr_jkl: i'll be 28. :p
ive contemplated whoring out my amazon wishlist, but i doubt anything would ever come of it mike-burns: I went to a rave in a warehouse in Brooklyn for my 28th birthday. I recommend it.
There was a unicorn. up_the_irons: lol jdoe: http://fashionindie.lookbooks.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/exterface_unicorn_03.jpg <-- did it look like that? mike-burns: I wish. up_the_irons: oh no that's just wrong dr_jkl: heh, i can't do stuff like that mike-burns: http://goo.gl/eLSB8 - it looked like this. dr_jkl: the wishlist or the unicorn?
oh the unicorn
that's a hore with a party hat!
lol
horse lol phlux: upgraded my laptop to 8gb of RAM today
pretty happy
i actually got this laptop in a bind when my old one went south..i wasn't planning on keeping this thing long, but i've kind of fallen in love with it, heh.
lenovo thinkpad edge
picked it up for like $300
(brand new) jdoe: I just bumped mine to 8gb today too. dr_jkl: lol,
the ssd in my laptop is worth more than the laptop ***: nixbag has joined #arpnetworks phlux: dr_jkl: i'm thinking of doing that exact same thing
but at least the ssd can travel with you when you move laptops
my ram probably won't
i mean, it's ddr3 now, but by the time i get tired of this thing/it breaks, something else will be out dr_jkl: is it socially acceptable, near one's birthday, to whore out a wishlist on social media and see what happens? phlux: yes
someone will definitely see it and be like "thank god, i was wondering wtf i was going to get him"
been there many times dr_jkl: eh most people who know me irl dont know i have a twitter or a facebook phlux: that's the only reason i have a twitter/fb dr_jkl: i'm probably going to get lots of angry birds. at work i have many angry birds, they call me the angry bird girl mikeputnam: dr_jkl: what make/model of laptop? do you run OpenBSD on it? ***: miststlkr has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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it's a cheap $300 lenovo running ubuntu mikeputnam: <3 lenovo ***: andol has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
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bsd -: dr_jkl shakefist mnathani: Anyone have any domain suggestions for a site covering a wide array of technical topics? ***: miststlkr has left dzup: mnathani, elaborate? milki: o, mnathani wants a good name
>.<
isnt there a website that does that for you
it takes all the businessy web words and smashes them together
http://www.dotomator.com/web20.html
:o
something like that -.- mnathani: dzup: looking for a domain name I can register and pretty much what milki said jlgaddis: i'll sell you mine for $25,000 milki: hehe dzup: i paid 25k if your is facebook.com dr_jkl: lol i pissed some people off a while ago
i own testdoma.in, tempdoma.in, and exampledoma.in
the only one i want to sell nobody has emailed about :( jlgaddis: which one? dr_jkl: justbetweensisters.com jlgaddis: yeah, can't say i have a good use case for that one
unless it involved porn
dammit, you've got me looking at domains and the adwords tool again dr_jkl: hah