#arpnetworks 2012-09-14,Fri

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jdoesomething going horribly wrong IO-wise on this host
up_the_irons: 52428800 bytes (52 MB) copied, 83.485 s, 628 kB/s
:P
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up_the_ironsjdoe: what is your host? [15:24]
jdoekvr06 I think... lemme check. It's gone away now, it was just exceptionally bad then.
yeah, kvr06.
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up_the_ironsWebhostbudd: dedi's are going well, but i put 'em on hold this week cuz my doctor said i couldn't lift anything heavy for a week, like my Cisco 6506 chassis ;) [16:28]
Webhostbudd=p [16:29]
up_the_ironsmaybe i can get that bad boy in next week [16:29]
Webhostbuddim really liking the e3-1230v2
that proc is super fast
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up_the_ironsit's a bad ass proc [16:29]
Webhostbuddit's amazing how much faster freebsd compiles on that [16:29]
up_the_ironso'rly? nice [16:29]
Webhostbuddyea, i used to run an amd phenom II x4 3 GHZ, but it's a night and day different
difference*
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up_the_ironsnice [16:30]
Webhostbuddim also digging the dedicated ipmi port on the board
i didn't realize that was the case with the more expensive supermicro boards
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up_the_ironsWebhostbudd: yeah, ipmi is pretty much included on all their server stuff now
Webhostbudd: and if it is not, there's an add-on card you just insert
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Webhostbuddi had it in my atom board, but it wasn't a dedicated port [16:37]
up_the_ironsah
you always want it on a dedicated port
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Webhostbuddso it's alright because it's on my trusted network [16:37]
up_the_ironstoo many security problems with ipmi
cool
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Webhostbuddyea....
ipmi is a major issue
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uname_-ahello
is anyone from arpnetworks actually here?
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Webhostbuddgarry is [16:38]
milkimilki points at up_the_irons [16:38]
uname_-aI requested a root password reset and a reboot of my server, acct "georgeteazis"
I'm here with the customer but I can't get anyone via phone
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uname_-aI tried to connect via VNC but was having difficulty
could someone help? No vps up means no nginx means no website
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up_the_ironsuname_-a: you know you can reboot the vps from the Portal, right? [16:41]
uname_-ayes, I do, I made an attempt
a couple actually
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up_the_ironsuname_-a: did you try a hard shutdown? [16:41]
uname_-aI did
can't ping after 10m
are you able to assist :)
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up_the_ironsuname_-a: please be advised we do not do root password resets, that is your responsibility (it's an unmanaged service): http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/what-level-of-support-can-i-expect-from-your-support-staff-for-my-vps
uname_-a: i can see if VNC is working from my end, standby
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uname_-aif I could get my VPS up, perhaps I could do the reset myself
but it should just be a boot -s
i'll be able to see console that way?
if it isn't up could you put it in single-user mode over vnc so I can get in?
otherwise i can, but i'll need to get in one way or another
also the customer wants to prepay for 6 or 12 months, how do i do it
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up_the_ironsuname_-a: i just replied to your ticket, with some more info. VNC is working fine, it's at the login prompt. VPS is running.
uname_-a: you can also get in over serial console, details here: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/out-of-band-management
just submit your SSH keys within the Portal (they are applied instantly), and you can "ssh <user>@console.cust.arpnetworks.com" and then hit "c" (console)
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uname_-assh keys are submitted
but i didnt see how to reboot so i can enter single user mode
via serial
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lemonsup_the_irons: i put in a ticket earlier today, ive been out of town and apparently i thought i wrote my pw down (i didnt) and now i cant get root or even remember my normal user pw. i understand its unmanaged, can you do a OS reset/reinstall? even if its paid ill do it
or what can be done
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up_the_ironsuname_-a: that'll be an openbsd thing, I'm actually not exactly sure myself. VNC is your best bet.
lemons: full resets are free: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/can-you-reset-by-vps-back-to-factory-defaults
lemons: just reply to that ticket with your VPS UUID
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lemonswill it give me a default root pw too? or via email [16:50]
up_the_ironslemons: it'll be exactly like it was in the beginning and i'll send you the same credentials [16:51]
lemonsok doing that now ty [16:51]
up_the_ironsnp [16:52]
uname_-aup_the_irons: you said you could issue another graceful reboot for me in the ticket? i tried sending ctrl alt delete on vnc to no avail
i need to watch kernel coming up in openbsd to issue a "boot -s"
for single user mode
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up_the_ironsuname_-a: yeah i don't think openbsd responds to ctrl-alt-del
acpi thing
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uname_-ait does in my server room [16:52]
up_the_ironsuname_-a: on a dedicated server, right? [16:52]
uname_-aI have 4.5 to 5.1
yep
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DaCauname_-a: it's much easier on serial console [16:53]
qbitincase anyone was wondering ... Avery "The Beast Grand Cru Ale" is a effing man beer... almost to man to drink [16:53]
up_the_ironsuname_-a: openbsd behaves differently on a virtualized platform (never could get acpi working) [16:53]
uname_-aalso i cant tell if the shutdown is a shutdown, or a reboot or what [16:53]
up_the_ironsqbit: LOL [16:53]
qbitit's 16% abv! [16:53]
uname_-ai have both serial and vnc open now [16:54]
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up_the_ironsuname_-a: soft shutdown sends an acpi signal (won't work on openbsd, hence the two warnings abouts "your OS must respond to ACPI signal"), hard shutdown just "cuts the power" basically, and boot starts it ("power on") [16:54]
uname_-aso, via serial, i should hard halt, then do a "boot" 60 secs after?
then watch my vnc, which will display the kernel coming up?
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DaCahard shutdown followed by boot, then go console, activate it and press a key so go get to the boot> prompt where you can type boot -s [16:55]
up_the_ironsuname_-a: so, do this: hard shutdown, wait a few seconds, then do a boot. connect to vnc after the boot. you'll have 15 seconds before the BIOS starts your OS. you can do any and all boot loader magic you need at that point. [16:55]
qbit^
that's what i do
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uname_-aand vnc won't give out? ok [16:56]
up_the_ironsuname_-a: vnc turns off when the VM is powered down, so you have to reconnect after the boot
DaCa: can you get to the boot> prompt simple over serial?
DaCa: i mean, by default...
i know you could if you modify boot.conf or something...
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lemonsup_the_irons: just put the ticket in, would show up as eastsandwichma as user for post. no rush gettin dinner soon [16:57]
up_the_ironslemons: roger tnx [16:57]
DaCaup_the_irons: I think I increased the delay to make it easier but yes you can [16:58]
uname_-awhat can i do about the customer's need to prepay
pay 6 months via credit card
[16:58]
DaCaI have never used the VNC thing [16:58]
up_the_ironsmight as well get to it now anyway, since i'm in support mode [16:58]
DaCaDaCa hates GUIs [16:59]
up_the_ironsuname_-a: just open a ticket requesting semi-annual (or annual) billing, i'll have the modifications made for Oct 1 billing
DaCa: same, but most OS' don't make it easy to play with serial. However, openbsd is pretty awesome about serial.
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qbitqbit hates hating things [16:59]
uname_-aso i did the boot
and vnc didnt work at all
hmm
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up_the_ironsuname_-a: try again? might take a few seconds [17:00]
lemonsare u sure it isnt the vnc client u are using lol [17:00]
qbitya - i have to wait ~4 seconds
or conenct onece and then do it again
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up_the_ironsuname_-a: vnc is responding over here [17:00]
Webhostbuddoh yay! you have an option for a /29 in the order form [17:00]
DaCaup_the_irons: of course, some even _require_ a graphical console to even install :( [17:00]
up_the_ironsWebhostbudd: dude it's always been there ;)
DaCa: yup
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Webhostbuddup_the_irons: really? [17:00]
up_the_ironsWebhostbudd: yeah man, since day 1 :) [17:01]
Webhostbuddlol, guess i never noticed [17:01]
qbitarpoch [17:01]
up_the_ironsqbit: hahaahhahaah [17:01]
qbit^ day one of arp [17:01]
up_the_ironsLOL
dude that's a good one
qbit: i'm gonna steel that
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qbitk [17:01]
DaCaapparently I did not change the delay, this is my boot.conf, I think it is the default:
stty com0 9600
set tty com0
and I have plenty of time to press a key to get to the boot prompt
even with the annoying password to enter when activating the console
which I think is useless as you already need pubkey auth to connect to it
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qbitohno [17:06]
up_the_ironsDaCa: that's not so much to authenticate *you* (since you're already auth via ssh), but to keep intruders out should anyone find a way to connect directly to the conserver instance. if I didn't set a password, it would be wide open. just never made me feel comfortable, even with private vlan, etc... [17:07]
DaCaok, ic
better safe than sorry :)
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up_the_irons:) [17:08]
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DaCaI have done it enough so it comes out pretty quickly [17:09]
uname_-asorry my vnc screen covered my whole screen [17:09]
DaCaas I follow snapshots on a regular basis [17:09]
up_the_ironsuname_-a: lol we were wondering what happened
DaCa: see, i don't think "set tty com0" is the default in openbsd, i think you have to set that to see "boot> " on serial
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DaCaup_the_irons: oh yes, that's possible, I really don't recall what I have changed, been running already a couple of years at arpnetworks now [17:13]
uname_-aok, trying to get this root password reset
brb
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qbitthe other day i blew away my master.passwd and passwd files .. and then regen'd master.passwd like a boss..
had to -s my shiz
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up_the_ironsqbit: lol [17:19]
uname_-asuccessful :) thank you
you said if i open a ticket i can do annual billing?
so why cant i connect over normal ssh now
im in on vnc
wooooops
could be pf
lol
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qbitheh [17:28]
up_the_ironsuname_-a: :)
uname_-a: normal ssh didn't work for me either, i figured that the customer changed the port
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uname_-acustomer did [17:29]
up_the_ironsuname_-a: glad you got it working. just open a ticket and we'll set it for annual billing (starting 10/1) [17:29]
uname_-ai did
lol
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up_the_ironshaha [17:29]
DaCathat's why you need a serial console :p [17:29]
up_the_ironsuname_-a: if you add what DaCa pasted earlier to your boot.conf, then you can always use the serial console, without VNC [17:29]
uname_-aindeed :) [17:30]
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up_the_ironsDaCa: why do you set it to 9600 btw, 115200 should work and be faster. perhaps it doesn't even matter since there is no real modem... [17:30]
DaCaup_the_irons: I think it is a good idea to include that in the default image, just as you include a kernel with mpbios disabled :) [17:31]
up_the_ironsDaCa: yeah i might just add that to the provisioning scripts. however, doesn't using that then disable vga output (e.g. VNC) ? [17:31]
DaCaup_the_irons: wild guess, I copied it from my soekris? :p [17:31]
up_the_ironsiirc, it was either one or the other
DaCa: hah maybe
looks like I just have:
s3.lax:~> cat /etc/boot.conf
set tty com0
s3.lax:~>
adding that to the default image would be trivial, but i'm a bit concerned if it then disables output to vga. i tend to like to keep working defaults so there are no surprises.
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DaCatias? [17:34]
up_the_ironstias? [17:34]
DaCatry it and see [17:34]
up_the_ironsLOL [17:34]
qbittiars
try it and regret soon
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up_the_ironshaha [17:35]
grabbing grub, bbl [17:40]
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mercutiohmm uname -a isn't here, ctrl-alt-delete doesn't work in openbsd by default.
you need to enable a sysctl setting
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qbityay <3 openbsd :D [18:37]
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mercutioi don't do ctrl-alt-delete myself [18:56]
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mikeputnamyou make orphans press ctrl-alt-delete for you in return for table scraps? [20:16]
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Webhostbuddoh god [23:03]
dr_jklwwww
okay i'm still connected. yay tcp packet timeout
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segvdr_jkl: man I closed my laptop the other day, (i have my ssh timeout something ridiculous on both ends) came back with my lid closed, opened the lid, and pressed enter and the prompt still worked I was like D: [23:12]
Webhostbuddlol [23:15]
dr_jklsegv: i did not hear you say 'typed in my password to unlock the screen!
> rm -rf /etc # haha!
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segvhaha
I have to type it in obviously :p
it auto locks as soon as the screen saver is enabled :D
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