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[11:43] <jdoe> something going horribly wrong IO-wise on this host
[11:43] <jdoe> up_the_irons: 52428800 bytes (52 MB) copied, 83.485 s, 628 kB/s
[11:43] <jdoe> :P
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[15:24] <up_the_irons> jdoe: what is your host?
[15:36] <jdoe> kvr06 I think... lemme check. It's gone away now, it was just exceptionally bad then.
[15:37] <jdoe> yeah, kvr06.
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[16:28] <up_the_irons> Webhostbudd: dedi's are going well, but i put 'em on hold this week cuz my doctor said i couldn't lift anything heavy for a week, like my Cisco 6506 chassis ;)
[16:29] <Webhostbudd> =p
[16:29] <up_the_irons> maybe i can get that bad boy in next week
[16:29] <Webhostbudd> im really liking the e3-1230v2
[16:29] <Webhostbudd> that proc is super fast
[16:29] <up_the_irons> it's a bad ass proc
[16:29] <Webhostbudd> it's amazing how much faster freebsd compiles on that
[16:29] <up_the_irons> o'rly? nice
[16:30] <Webhostbudd> yea, i used to run an amd phenom II x4 3 GHZ, but it's a night and day different
[16:30] <Webhostbudd> difference*
[16:30] <up_the_irons> nice
[16:30] <Webhostbudd> im also digging the dedicated ipmi port on the board
[16:30] <Webhostbudd> i didn't realize that was the case with the more expensive supermicro boards
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[16:37] <up_the_irons> Webhostbudd: yeah, ipmi is pretty much included on all their server stuff now
[16:37] <up_the_irons> Webhostbudd: and if it is not, there's an add-on card you just insert
[16:37] <Webhostbudd> i had it in my atom board, but it wasn't a dedicated port
[16:37] <up_the_irons> ah
[16:37] <up_the_irons> you always want it on a dedicated port
[16:37] <Webhostbudd> so it's alright because it's on my trusted network
[16:38] <up_the_irons> too many security problems with ipmi
[16:38] <up_the_irons> cool
[16:38] <Webhostbudd> yea....
[16:38] <Webhostbudd> ipmi is a major issue
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[16:38] <uname_-a> hello
[16:38] <uname_-a> is anyone from arpnetworks actually here?
[16:38] <Webhostbudd> garry is
[16:38] * milki points at up_the_irons 
[16:39] <uname_-a> I requested a root password reset and a reboot of my server, acct "georgeteazis"
[16:39] <uname_-a> I'm here with the customer but I can't get anyone via phone
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[16:39] <uname_-a> I tried to connect via VNC but was having difficulty
[16:40] <uname_-a> could someone help?  No vps up means no nginx means no website
[16:41] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: you know you can reboot the vps from the Portal, right?
[16:41] <uname_-a> yes, I do, I made an attempt
[16:41] <uname_-a> a couple actually
[16:41] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: did you try a hard shutdown?
[16:41] <uname_-a> I did
[16:42] <uname_-a> can't ping after 10m
[16:43] <uname_-a> are you able to assist :)
[16:43] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: please be advised we do not do root password resets, that is  your responsibility (it's an unmanaged service): http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/what-level-of-support-can-i-expect-from-your-support-staff-for-my-vps
[16:43] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: i can see if VNC is working from my end, standby
[16:43] <uname_-a> if I could get my VPS up, perhaps I could do the reset myself
[16:44] <uname_-a> but it should just be a boot -s
[16:44] <uname_-a> i'll be able to see console that way?
[16:45] <uname_-a> if it isn't up could you put it in single-user mode over vnc so I can get in?
[16:45] <uname_-a> otherwise i can, but i'll need to get in one way or another
[16:46] <uname_-a> also the customer wants to prepay for 6 or 12 months, how do i do it
[16:47] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: i just replied to your ticket, with some more info.  VNC is working fine, it's at the login prompt.  VPS is running.
[16:47] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: you can also get in over serial console, details here: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/out-of-band-management
[16:48] <up_the_irons> just submit your SSH keys within the Portal (they are applied instantly), and you can "ssh <user>@console.cust.arpnetworks.com" and then hit "c" (console)
[16:48] <uname_-a> ssh keys are submitted
[16:48] <uname_-a> but i didnt see how to reboot so i can enter single user mode
[16:48] <uname_-a> via serial
[16:49] <lemons> up_the_irons: i put in a ticket earlier today, ive been out of town and apparently i thought i wrote my pw down (i didnt) and now i cant get root or even remember my normal user pw. i understand its unmanaged, can you do a OS reset/reinstall? even if its paid ill do it
[16:49] <lemons> or what can be done
[16:49] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: that'll be an openbsd thing, I'm actually not exactly sure myself.  VNC is your best bet.
[16:50] <up_the_irons> lemons: full resets are free: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/can-you-reset-by-vps-back-to-factory-defaults
[16:50] <up_the_irons> lemons: just reply to that ticket with your VPS UUID
[16:50] <lemons> will it give me a default root pw too? or via email
[16:51] <up_the_irons> lemons: it'll be exactly like it was in the beginning and i'll send you the same credentials
[16:51] <lemons> ok doing that now ty
[16:52] <up_the_irons> np
[16:52] <uname_-a> up_the_irons: you said you could issue another graceful reboot for me in the ticket?  i tried sending ctrl alt delete on vnc to no avail
[16:52] <uname_-a> i need to watch kernel coming up in openbsd to issue a "boot -s"
[16:52] <uname_-a> for single user mode
[16:52] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: yeah i don't think openbsd responds to ctrl-alt-del
[16:52] <up_the_irons> acpi thing
[16:52] <uname_-a> it does in my server room
[16:52] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: on a dedicated server, right?
[16:53] <uname_-a> I have 4.5 to 5.1
[16:53] <uname_-a> yep
[16:53] <DaCa> uname_-a: it's much easier on serial console
[16:53] <qbit> incase anyone was wondering ... Avery "The Beast Grand Cru Ale" is a effing man beer... almost to man to drink
[16:53] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: openbsd behaves differently on a virtualized platform (never could get acpi working)
[16:53] <uname_-a> also i cant tell if the shutdown is a shutdown, or a reboot or what
[16:53] <up_the_irons> qbit: LOL
[16:53] <qbit> it's 16% abv!
[16:54] <uname_-a> i have both serial and vnc open now
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[16:54] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: soft shutdown sends an acpi signal (won't work on openbsd, hence the two warnings abouts "your OS must respond to ACPI signal"), hard shutdown just "cuts the power" basically, and boot starts it ("power on")
[16:55] <uname_-a> so, via serial, i should hard halt, then do a "boot" 60 secs after?
[16:55] <uname_-a> then watch my vnc, which will display the kernel coming up?
[16:55] <DaCa> hard shutdown followed by boot, then go console, activate it and press a key so go get to the boot> prompt where you can type boot -s
[16:55] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: so, do this: hard shutdown, wait a few seconds, then do a boot.  connect to vnc after the boot.  you'll have 15 seconds before the BIOS starts your OS.  you can do any and all boot loader magic you need at that point.
[16:56] <qbit> ^
[16:56] <qbit> that's what i do
[16:56] <uname_-a> and vnc won't give out? ok
[16:56] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: vnc turns off when the VM is powered down, so you have to reconnect after the boot
[16:57] <up_the_irons> DaCa: can you get to the boot> prompt simple over serial?
[16:57] <up_the_irons> DaCa: i mean, by default...
[16:57] <up_the_irons> i know you could if you modify boot.conf or something...
[16:57] <lemons> up_the_irons: just put the ticket in, would show up as eastsandwichma as user for post. no rush gettin dinner soon
[16:57] <up_the_irons> lemons: roger tnx
[16:58] <DaCa> up_the_irons: I think I increased the delay to make it easier but yes you can
[16:58] <uname_-a> what can i do about the customer's need to prepay
[16:58] <uname_-a> pay 6 months via credit card
[16:58] <DaCa> I have never used the VNC thing
[16:58] <up_the_irons> might as well get to it now anyway, since i'm in support mode
[16:59] * DaCa hates GUIs
[16:59] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: just open a ticket requesting semi-annual (or annual) billing, i'll have the modifications made for Oct 1 billing
[16:59] <up_the_irons> DaCa: same, but most OS' don't make it easy to play with serial.  However, openbsd is pretty awesome about serial.
[16:59] * qbit hates hating things
[16:59] <uname_-a> so i did the boot
[16:59] <uname_-a> and vnc didnt work at all
[16:59] <uname_-a> hmm
[17:00] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: try again?  might take a few seconds
[17:00] <lemons> are u sure it isnt the vnc client u are using lol
[17:00] <qbit> ya - i have to wait ~4 seconds
[17:00] <qbit> or conenct onece and then do it again
[17:00] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: vnc is responding over here
[17:00] <Webhostbudd> oh yay! you have an option for a /29 in the order form
[17:00] <DaCa> up_the_irons: of course, some even _require_ a graphical console to even install :(
[17:00] <up_the_irons> Webhostbudd: dude it's always been there ;)
[17:00] <up_the_irons> DaCa: yup
[17:00] <Webhostbudd> up_the_irons: really?
[17:01] <up_the_irons> Webhostbudd: yeah man, since day 1 :)
[17:01] <Webhostbudd> lol, guess i never noticed
[17:01] <qbit> arpoch
[17:01] <up_the_irons> qbit: hahaahhahaah
[17:01] <qbit> ^ day one of arp
[17:01] <up_the_irons> LOL
[17:01] <up_the_irons> dude that's a good one
[17:01] <up_the_irons> qbit: i'm gonna steel that
[17:01] <qbit> k
[17:04] <DaCa> apparently I did not change the delay, this is my boot.conf, I think it is the default:
[17:04] <DaCa> stty com0 9600
[17:04] <DaCa> set tty com0
[17:05] <DaCa> and I have plenty of time to press a key to get to the boot prompt
[17:05] <DaCa> even with the annoying password to enter when activating the console
[17:05] <DaCa> which I think is useless as you already need pubkey auth to connect to it
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[17:06] <qbit> ohno
[17:07] <up_the_irons> DaCa: that's not so much to authenticate *you* (since you're already auth via ssh), but to keep intruders out should anyone find a way to connect directly to the conserver instance.  if I didn't set a password, it would be wide open.  just never made me feel comfortable, even with private vlan, etc...
[17:07] <DaCa> ok, ic
[17:07] <DaCa> better safe than sorry :)
[17:08] <up_the_irons> :)
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[17:09] <DaCa> I have done it enough so it comes out pretty quickly
[17:09] <uname_-a> sorry my vnc screen covered my whole screen
[17:09] <DaCa> as I follow snapshots on a regular basis
[17:09] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: lol we were wondering what happened
[17:11] <up_the_irons> DaCa: see, i don't think "set tty com0" is the default in openbsd, i think you have to set that to see "boot> " on serial
[17:13] <DaCa> up_the_irons: oh yes, that's possible, I really don't recall what I have changed, been running already a couple of years at arpnetworks now
[17:13] <uname_-a> ok, trying to get this root password reset
[17:13] <uname_-a> brb
[17:16] <qbit> the other day i blew away my master.passwd and passwd files .. and then regen'd master.passwd like a boss..
[17:16] <qbit> had to -s my shiz
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[17:19] <up_the_irons> qbit: lol
[17:25] <uname_-a> successful :)   thank you
[17:25] <uname_-a> you said if i open a ticket i can do annual billing?
[17:27] <uname_-a> so why cant i connect over normal ssh now
[17:27] <uname_-a> im in on vnc
[17:28] <uname_-a> wooooops
[17:28] <uname_-a> could be pf
[17:28] <uname_-a> lol
[17:28] <qbit> heh
[17:28] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: :)
[17:28] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: normal ssh didn't work for me either, i figured that the customer changed the port
[17:29] <uname_-a> customer did
[17:29] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: glad you got it working.  just open a ticket and we'll set it for annual billing (starting 10/1)
[17:29] <uname_-a> i did
[17:29] <uname_-a> lol
[17:29] <up_the_irons> haha
[17:29] <DaCa> that's why you need a serial console :p
[17:29] <up_the_irons> uname_-a: if you add what DaCa pasted earlier to your boot.conf, then you can always use the serial console, without VNC
[17:30] <uname_-a> indeed :)
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[17:30] <up_the_irons> DaCa: why do you set it to 9600 btw, 115200 should work and be faster.  perhaps it doesn't even matter since there is no real modem...
[17:31] <DaCa> up_the_irons: I think it is a good idea to include that in the default image, just as you include a kernel with mpbios disabled :)
[17:31] <up_the_irons> DaCa: yeah i might just add that to the provisioning scripts. however, doesn't using that then disable vga output (e.g. VNC) ?
[17:31] <DaCa> up_the_irons: wild guess, I copied it from my soekris? :p
[17:31] <up_the_irons> iirc, it was either one or the other
[17:32] <up_the_irons> DaCa: hah maybe
[17:32] <up_the_irons> looks like I just have:
[17:32] <up_the_irons> s3.lax:~> cat /etc/boot.conf
[17:32] <up_the_irons> set tty com0
[17:32] <up_the_irons> s3.lax:~>
[17:33] <up_the_irons> adding that to the default image would be trivial, but i'm a bit concerned if it then disables output to vga.  i tend to like to keep working defaults so there are no surprises.
[17:34] <DaCa> tias?
[17:34] <up_the_irons> tias?
[17:34] <DaCa> try it and see
[17:34] <up_the_irons> LOL
[17:35] <qbit> tiars
[17:35] <qbit> try it and regret soon
[17:35] <up_the_irons> haha
[17:40] <up_the_irons> grabbing grub, bbl
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[18:33] <mercutio> hmm uname -a isn't here, ctrl-alt-delete doesn't work in openbsd by default.
[18:33] <mercutio> you need to enable a sysctl setting
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[18:37] <qbit> yay <3 openbsd :D
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[18:56] <mercutio> i don't do ctrl-alt-delete myself
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[20:16] <mikeputnam> you make orphans press ctrl-alt-delete for you in return for table scraps?
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[23:03] <Webhostbudd> oh god
[23:07] <dr_jkl> wwww
[23:07] <dr_jkl> okay i'm still connected. yay tcp packet timeout
[23:12] <segv> dr_jkl: man I closed my laptop the other day, (i have my ssh timeout something ridiculous on both ends) came back with my lid closed, opened the lid, and pressed enter and the prompt still worked I was like D:
[23:15] <Webhostbudd> lol
[23:23] <dr_jkl> segv: i did not hear you say 'typed in my password to unlock the screen!
[23:23] <dr_jkl> >  rm -rf /etc  # haha!
[23:23] <segv> haha
[23:23] <segv> I have to type it in obviously :p
[23:23] <segv> it auto locks as soon as the screen saver is enabled :D