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gcw has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: CentOS 5.8 templates are... juuuust... about.... ready
damn.. scratch that.. why won't the generated pw's work... probably different crypt library or some shit.. bah
oh i think i got it...
5.x uses MD5, not SHA-512 like deb/ubuntu -: up_the_irons tries again ***: Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: what's that I see on the serial console?
CentOS release 5.8 (Final)
Kernel 2.6.18-308.13.1.el5 on an x86_64
centos-auto-prov-test login:
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fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) mercutio: i thought md5 wasn't suitable for passwords? up_the_irons: mercutio: well, apparently, it is still the default for cent 5.x mercutio: i think it's not very good for short amounts of data
like a password
The MD5 password hash algorithm is "no longer considered safe" by the original software developer, a day after the leak of more than 6.4 million hashed LinkedIn passwords
hmm
you can tell that it's a coder speaking
he says that every large site should use different algorithams
hmm and there's a method to make non-identical files that md5s match
mind you lots of people kept using crypt after it was known to be bad
and shadow files helped there.. ***: mdube_ has joined #arpnetworks
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sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) jdoe: mercutio: there's no particular reason for large sites to use the same algo (or same algo with the same settings) ***: sako has joined #arpnetworks
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arenlor: thank you for your review and getting the ball rollin' :)
wish WHS would update their thumbnail, lol ***: HighJinx has quit IRC () -: up_the_irons heads out for food ***: sako has joined #arpnetworks
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sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) up_the_irons: Webhostbudd: Webhostbudd! i've been looking for u...
i have a server for u... Webhostbudd: up_the_irons: sounds good but I might be looking to cut back since my requirements aren't that high anymore
up_the_irons: while considering the offer i realized a vps is probably a sound choice, but i would hate to ditch zfs =( jdoe: you can run zfs on a vps.
... I still think running zfs on freebsd is insane, but it appears to have worked well for RandalSchwartz Webhostbudd: jdoe: zfs on freebsd is amazing and the only way to go anymore
that's all i run on my freebsd installs
well, zfs running isn't a problem but running well is
zfs is pretty slow without relying on lots of memory caching mercutio: Webhostbudd: yeh you need lots of ram for zfs
you really want 4gb+ Webhostbudd: mercutio: yea, most of my zfs machines have 16+ mercutio: i'm doing virtualisation with zfs Webhostbudd: illumos? mercutio: and i've started moving more ram to zfs
openindiana and opensolaris Webhostbudd: yea mercutio: for 32gb ram 8gb for zfs Webhostbudd: yea, that's pretty good
it seems like the ram requirement falls off after 16GB mercutio: i was allocating like 4gb for zfs before Webhostbudd: i have 32GB in my one nas and the arc stops are 18 ish gb mercutio: after finding 2gb just wasn't enough Webhostbudd: stops at* mercutio: you can fiddle with that
zfs has things to use 3/4 of ram etc
you seen arc_summary.pl btw? Webhostbudd: yea mercutio: also there's a metadata limit
that you can increase if you have lots of metadata Webhostbudd: mhmm
my machines aren't really strained for ram
so i let freebsd take care of the allocations mercutio: yeh
but metadata won't use all available ram
or aynthing
it depends if you're hitting it or not
if you have lots of small files versus lots of large files
ie if you just store movies on it it wouldn't matter :)
but if you use maildir on it it would
webhost: someone's working l2arc compression :)
http://cr.illumos.org/~webrev/skiselkov/3137/
which could let to higher hitrates Webhostbudd: interesting
but im not using an l2arc
since you run opensol and openindiana, how has performance felt for you
i always feel like solaris has been sluggish compared to freebsd / linux mercutio: lousy
it's faster using virtual machines than the base os :)
you have to do /usr/gnu/bin/dd
rather than dd
if you want things like conv=fdatasync
actually seriously it's not too bad
i mostly have fmd etc
hate
also some lead developer just quit
but linux is only just adding check support
and no correcitng etc
btrfs has compression in it
which is kind of cool
but i feel safer with zfs
iscsi goes well
nfs goes well
but the package management doesn't have handy things ilke tmux in it
so you have to compile frmo source
also there's all this krb cruft in ssh
and if you don't disble it ssh logins are slow
and frmo base install you have to disable nwam (like in ubuntu how you have to disable network-manager, resolvconf) ***: Webhostbudd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
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