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[13:50] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:53] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [14:06] *** sako_ has joined #arpnetworks [14:08] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [14:42] *** sako_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:04] *** beandog has joined #arpnetworks [15:26] so up_the_irons, if I buy three more VPSes, do I get a "4 VPS discount?" How about a military discount? :P [15:33] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [15:35] I know he's actually rather reasonable, make him an offer for all four. [15:43] hey, I have 6 right now.. I get no discounts ;) [15:43] but I'm not complaining.. the price is so good already [15:45] phlux: there are no bulk discouts, in general, but you can find some coupon codes here: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1183903 [15:45] phlux: also, 10% off when paying semi-annually or longer [15:46] oh interesting [15:46] thanks [15:47] Hey, I want free stuff too! [15:48] woah.. really? I should pay annually [15:49] pjs: you didn't know about the 10% discount? ;) http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/billing/is-there-a-discount-for-paying-in-advance [15:51] nice :) [15:59] up_the_irons: ... dunno if you changed anything on kvr05, but disk performance has suddenly stopped sucking. [15:59] jdoe: How long ago was that? [16:00] arenlor: after I complained... yesterday? the day before? I started timing 50MB dd + sync every 5 minutes. [16:00] jdoe: Well a day or two ago it was rebooted. [16:00] that was 04 [16:01] ... or whatever host machine that was, I'm on n+1 :P [16:02] jdoe: haven't touched it in a couple days. it was rebooted, yeah [16:03] different machine. [16:03] I may have the number wrong. Whichever one you rebooted, I'm that + 1. [16:03] jdoe: kvr04 had an hdd die, kvr05 siezed up and rebooted. [16:03] jdoe: Login and you can see what you're on. [16:04] I have an uptime of 40 days, I feel fairly confident the host wasn't rebooted within, say, the last week. [16:04] jdoe: So you're on kvr06 then maybe? [16:04] If so then if the current pattern keeps up... [16:04] yeah, 06. [16:05] so college football is underway! [16:06] * up_the_irons slaps arenlor [16:06] Hey, I'm not hoping it will [16:06] maybe i should just schedule reboots after 900 days of uptime... [16:07] or 950 [16:09] up_the_irons: It may work, could be that there's a bug in something after such a long uptime? Maybe a too short counter somewhere. [16:10] perhaps [16:12] fuck that. [16:12] push it to the limit [16:12] walk along the razor's edge [16:12] etc. [16:13] up_the_irons: Do you know when I first signed up? [16:14] arenlor: pm your vps uuid [16:21] http://www.webhostingstuff.com/review/ARPNetworks.html [16:23] I'm trying to determine if it'd be cheaper to move my stuff or just stay put for now :| [16:24] *** fink has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:24] phlux: Move. [16:25] The awesome free support is worth it. [16:25] I want to [16:25] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [16:25] My ARP VPS is 100% better than my...er...other company's [16:25] That's why its my hub for everything [16:26] I have two VPS, and am quite happy. [16:28] is there a list of coloable servers? [16:28] like that sweetass 16gigger ? [16:39] *** mnathani has joined #arpnetworks [16:41] arenlor: thanks for the review!!! [16:41] qbit: you mean the dedicated servers? [16:43] it'll be on the site very, very soon. i'm writing up the KB articles for VPN / IPMI console access, virtual media, etc... [16:43] (now) [16:43] noice... [16:44] up_the_irons, I was looking at office space at 2nd and Broadway today (near Lil Tokyo, above the Redwood bar).. that's not too far from your DC either [16:44] pjs: yeah that's pretty close [16:45] swoot [16:50] *** beandog has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [16:50] qbit: the specs are: Intel Xeon E3-1240 V2 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz, 16GB ECC RAM, 2x 1TB HDs (software RAID-1 or ZFS required), GigE uplink, 10TB bandwidth, $169. Add-ons: 1) additional 16GB of RAM (32GB total): $20, 2) Additional 1TB HDs: $20 each, 3) Hardware RAID card: $30 [16:50] ah [16:51] the reason for mirroring or ZFS required is that when your disk fails, we don't want to be running to the data center [16:51] any smaller offerings? [16:51] and disks fail, miserably, often [16:51] qbit: an 8GB RAM version of that would be $149 [16:51] k [16:51] sweet [16:52] not much else I can "downgrade" [16:52] perhaps the disk, to 500GB, but the price difference between 500GB and 1TB drives is so little nowadays [16:53] yeah [16:53] i want to build openbsd building boxes [16:53] i386 and amd64 [16:53] RAM pricing is somewhat linear though, at least between 8, 16, and 32GB [16:54] k [16:54] qbit: for just building openbsd ? [16:55] yeah [16:55] all the time building [16:55] well [16:55] maybe 83.8% of the time :) [16:56] qbit: or, how about this... for our own drives, when there is a failure in the RAID, we have a 24 hour replacement policy. so, if it is good enough for us, then we can offer it confidently. So if you wanted only 1 disk, and can accept up to 24 hour turnaround replacement if it craps itself, then you can take $20 off the previous pricing. So as low as $129 [16:57] sweet [16:58] i would be ok with long waits on deadness [16:58] i need to do some vps consolidation before i move forward with anything [16:59] i was pretty impressed with the power draw of the 8x blades. All running, at idle boot loader, it clocks only 2.9 Amps! there were no HDs though [16:59] qbit: roger that. these are ready now, so just let me know when you want one. i have 6 available currently. [17:00] radical [17:03] *** beandog has joined #arpnetworks [17:03] *** beandog has quit IRC (Changing host) [17:03] *** beandog has joined #arpnetworks [17:13] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [17:16] *** himuraken has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [17:23] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [17:36] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [17:53] *** arenlor has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:57] *** arenlor has joined #arpnetworks [18:38] *** beandog has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [18:40] where is Webhostbudd, i gotz a server for him... [18:42] up_the_irons: I'll take it in his stead [18:43] LOL [18:53] http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/main/customer-vpn [18:53] can anyone suggest what the "Linux (Fedora, RHEL, CentOS)" version would be? I listed apt-get commands for Ubuntu and Debian... [18:54] * up_the_irons bets jpalmer knows [18:54] yum [18:54] oh [18:54] haha [18:54] I only read half what you said :D [18:55] not just "yum install openvpn" with epel? [18:56] (looks like it's in the epel repo with that name anyway) [18:56] "download a debian cd and install that instead" [18:56] jdoe: haha [18:56] go netbsd if you're going to be snobby about it! [18:56] why? I want it to run on a vm, not a toaster. [18:56] :( [18:57] I used it as a desktop os on my pc for about 6 months [18:57] (it was not a toaster, it was a relatively new p3-800!) [18:57] alas, I have no medals to give. [18:57] ran hot enough to be a toaster though, I think [18:58] I accept internetz medals [18:58] jdoe: lol [18:59] The biggest pain with a new computer is the time spent reinstalling everything. [18:59] also, jdoe is mean [18:59] it might be just 'yum install openvpn', but some googling reveals there's something about rpm rebuilding or some crap... maybe outdated [18:59] i'll try it on a centos 5.8 vm as soon as the templates are done (probably tonight!) [19:00] up_the_irons: we had a test install on an RHEL 5 system at work a while ago, I don't recall our unixguy saying anything about that [19:00] we have epel enabled by default [19:00] roger [19:00] * jdoe staples an internet medal to kraigu's forehead. [19:00] that said... I was more worried about the junipers that were my responsibility than the openvpn install that was his =] [19:00] jdoe: !! [19:00] * kraigu WEARS IT PROUDLY [19:01] junipers, nice [19:01] well, we wound up getting ciscos instead [19:01] it was kind of a bake-off, although openvpn lost pretty quickly ;) [19:02] basically everything was equal between juniper and cisco, except our nocmonkeys are happier with the latter than the former, so... sorry, Juniper [19:02] s'ok, we have several SRXes, if Juniper goes under it won't be our fault ;) [19:05] openvpn isn't ideal for large installations. :P [19:05] yeah, we figured that would be the case [19:06] we got it running, fiddled with user management, and hucked it. but it outlasted MS Forefront, which somebody insisted we test. [19:07] it works fine, but it has lower absolute throughput, and it doesn't integrate especially well with anything else. [19:07] ie existing auth setups [19:08] yeap, that was where we hucked it [19:08] "2500 users... riiight" [19:14] if i have to support 2500 users on the customer VPN, that's a problem I want to have...! [19:14] bring it on [19:14] bbq time [19:14] haha, I bet [19:14] om nom! [19:14] up_the_irons: I try to, speaking of, will we ever get referal tracking? [19:14] * up_the_irons goes to the fire... [19:31] arenlor: we do, kinda. [19:31] * jdoe got some love for referring. [19:31] jdoe: I just want to know how many people I send sign up. [19:37] What a shock -- I never saw that coming from Mitt! [19:38] Yamazaki-kun: Eh? [19:42] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [19:47] *** sako has joined #arpnetworks [19:48] wrong channel [19:48] but he accepted the nomination [19:48] was expecting him to decline and take the other job he was thinking about. [19:54] I don't follow, what nomination? [19:55] jdoe: He's officially the Republican nominee for President [19:55] president of what? [19:55] president of conservative americans [19:56] political parties can die in a fire [19:56] jdoe: Where are you from? [19:58] HELLO FREIND I AM PRESIDENT MOBUTU *CLICK-CLICK* N'GANGGANG A DOCTOR LAWYER IN NIGERIA AND I HAVE A PROPOSITION FOR YOU AS YOUR TRUSTWORTHY REPUTATION WAS PRECEEEDED U :) [20:01] jdoe: You have a .ca domain so I assumed Canadia, but wasn't sure. If so, shouldn't you be a bit more worried if your pants elect the war party's candidate? [20:02] I care more about the laws you export than the wars, I give nigh on zero fucks who's elected. [20:03] jdoe: He'd be one pushing our laws on other countries, especially laws benefitting companies. [20:04] don't be silly, both parties do it. [20:05] jdoe: Yes, but they are worse. [20:52] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [22:46] *** Webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks