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| arenlor | There's a new Java out already to fix the recent bug, I suggest you update if you can. | [13:44] |
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| phlux | so up_the_irons, if I buy three more VPSes, do I get a "4 VPS discount?" How about a military discount? :P | [15:26] |
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| arenlor | I know he's actually rather reasonable, make him an offer for all four. | [15:35] |
| pjs | hey, I have 6 right now.. I get no discounts ;)
but I'm not complaining.. the price is so good already | [15:43] |
| up_the_irons | phlux: there are no bulk discouts, in general, but you can find some coupon codes here: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1183903
phlux: also, 10% off when paying semi-annually or longer | [15:45] |
| phlux | oh interesting
thanks | [15:46] |
| arenlor | Hey, I want free stuff too! | [15:47] |
| pjs | woah.. really? I should pay annually | [15:48] |
| up_the_irons | pjs: you didn't know about the 10% discount? ;) http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/billing/is-there-a-discount-for-paying-in-advance | [15:49] |
| pjs | nice :) | [15:51] |
| jdoe | up_the_irons: ... dunno if you changed anything on kvr05, but disk performance has suddenly stopped sucking. | [15:59] |
| arenlor | jdoe: How long ago was that? | [15:59] |
| jdoe | arenlor: after I complained... yesterday? the day before? I started timing 50MB dd + sync every 5 minutes. | [16:00] |
| arenlor | jdoe: Well a day or two ago it was rebooted. | [16:00] |
| jdoe | that was 04
... or whatever host machine that was, I'm on n+1 :P | [16:00] |
| up_the_irons | jdoe: haven't touched it in a couple days. it was rebooted, yeah | [16:02] |
| jdoe | different machine.
I may have the number wrong. Whichever one you rebooted, I'm that + 1. | [16:03] |
| arenlor | jdoe: kvr04 had an hdd die, kvr05 siezed up and rebooted.
jdoe: Login and you can see what you're on. | [16:03] |
| jdoe | I have an uptime of 40 days, I feel fairly confident the host wasn't rebooted within, say, the last week. | [16:04] |
| arenlor | jdoe: So you're on kvr06 then maybe?
If so then if the current pattern keeps up... | [16:04] |
| jdoe | yeah, 06. | [16:04] |
| phlux | so college football is underway! | [16:05] |
| up_the_irons | up_the_irons slaps arenlor | [16:06] |
| arenlor | Hey, I'm not hoping it will | [16:06] |
| up_the_irons | maybe i should just schedule reboots after 900 days of uptime...
or 950 | [16:06] |
| arenlor | up_the_irons: It may work, could be that there's a bug in something after such a long uptime? Maybe a too short counter somewhere. | [16:09] |
| up_the_irons | perhaps | [16:10] |
| jdoe | fuck that.
push it to the limit walk along the razor's edge etc. | [16:12] |
| arenlor | up_the_irons: Do you know when I first signed up? | [16:13] |
| up_the_irons | arenlor: pm your vps uuid | [16:14] |
| arenlor | http://www.webhostingstuff.com/review/ARPNetworks.html | [16:21] |
| phlux | I'm trying to determine if it'd be cheaper to move my stuff or just stay put for now :| | [16:23] |
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| arenlor | phlux: Move.
The awesome free support is worth it. | [16:24] |
| phlux | I want to | [16:25] |
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| phlux | My ARP VPS is 100% better than my...er...other company's
That's why its my hub for everything | [16:25] |
| arenlor | I have two VPS, and am quite happy. | [16:26] |
| qbit | is there a list of coloable servers?
like that sweetass 16gigger ? | [16:28] |
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| up_the_irons | arenlor: thanks for the review!!!
qbit: you mean the dedicated servers? it'll be on the site very, very soon. i'm writing up the KB articles for VPN / IPMI console access, virtual media, etc... (now) | [16:41] |
| pjs | noice...
up_the_irons, I was looking at office space at 2nd and Broadway today (near Lil Tokyo, above the Redwood bar).. that's not too far from your DC either | [16:43] |
| up_the_irons | pjs: yeah that's pretty close | [16:44] |
| qbit | swoot | [16:45] |
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| up_the_irons | qbit: the specs are: Intel Xeon E3-1240 V2 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz, 16GB ECC RAM, 2x 1TB HDs (software RAID-1 or ZFS required), GigE uplink, 10TB bandwidth, $169. Add-ons: 1) additional 16GB of RAM (32GB total): $20, 2) Additional 1TB HDs: $20 each, 3) Hardware RAID card: $30 | [16:50] |
| qbit | ah | [16:50] |
| up_the_irons | the reason for mirroring or ZFS required is that when your disk fails, we don't want to be running to the data center | [16:51] |
| qbit | any smaller offerings? | [16:51] |
| up_the_irons | and disks fail, miserably, often
qbit: an 8GB RAM version of that would be $149 | [16:51] |
| qbit | k
sweet | [16:51] |
| up_the_irons | not much else I can "downgrade"
perhaps the disk, to 500GB, but the price difference between 500GB and 1TB drives is so little nowadays | [16:52] |
| qbit | yeah
i want to build openbsd building boxes i386 and amd64 | [16:53] |
| up_the_irons | RAM pricing is somewhat linear though, at least between 8, 16, and 32GB | [16:53] |
| qbit | k | [16:54] |
| up_the_irons | qbit: for just building openbsd ? | [16:54] |
| qbit | yeah
all the time building well maybe 83.8% of the time :) | [16:55] |
| up_the_irons | qbit: or, how about this... for our own drives, when there is a failure in the RAID, we have a 24 hour replacement policy. so, if it is good enough for us, then we can offer it confidently. So if you wanted only 1 disk, and can accept up to 24 hour turnaround replacement if it craps itself, then you can take $20 off the previous pricing. So as low as $129 | [16:56] |
| qbit | sweet
i would be ok with long waits on deadness i need to do some vps consolidation before i move forward with anything | [16:57] |
| up_the_irons | i was pretty impressed with the power draw of the 8x blades. All running, at idle boot loader, it clocks only 2.9 Amps! there were no HDs though
qbit: roger that. these are ready now, so just let me know when you want one. i have 6 available currently. | [16:59] |
| qbit | radical | [17:00] |
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| up_the_irons | where is Webhostbudd, i gotz a server for him... | [18:40] |
| arenlor | up_the_irons: I'll take it in his stead | [18:42] |
| up_the_irons | LOL | [18:43] |
| http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/main/customer-vpn
can anyone suggest what the "Linux (Fedora, RHEL, CentOS)" version would be? I listed apt-get commands for Ubuntu and Debian... up_the_irons bets jpalmer knows | [18:53] | |
| kraigu | yum
oh haha I only read half what you said :D not just "yum install openvpn" with epel? (looks like it's in the epel repo with that name anyway) | [18:54] |
| jdoe | "download a debian cd and install that instead" | [18:56] |
| kraigu | jdoe: haha
go netbsd if you're going to be snobby about it! | [18:56] |
| jdoe | why? I want it to run on a vm, not a toaster. | [18:56] |
| kraigu | :(
I used it as a desktop os on my pc for about 6 months (it was not a toaster, it was a relatively new p3-800!) | [18:56] |
| jdoe | alas, I have no medals to give. | [18:57] |
| kraigu | ran hot enough to be a toaster though, I think
I accept internetz medals | [18:57] |
| up_the_irons | jdoe: lol | [18:58] |
| arenlor | The biggest pain with a new computer is the time spent reinstalling everything. | [18:59] |
| kraigu | also, jdoe is mean | [18:59] |
| up_the_irons | it might be just 'yum install openvpn', but some googling reveals there's something about rpm rebuilding or some crap... maybe outdated
i'll try it on a centos 5.8 vm as soon as the templates are done (probably tonight!) | [18:59] |
| kraigu | up_the_irons: we had a test install on an RHEL 5 system at work a while ago, I don't recall our unixguy saying anything about that
we have epel enabled by default | [19:00] |
| up_the_irons | roger | [19:00] |
| jdoe | jdoe staples an internet medal to kraigu's forehead. | [19:00] |
| kraigu | that said... I was more worried about the junipers that were my responsibility than the openvpn install that was his =]
jdoe: !! kraigu WEARS IT PROUDLY | [19:00] |
| up_the_irons | junipers, nice | [19:01] |
| kraigu | well, we wound up getting ciscos instead
it was kind of a bake-off, although openvpn lost pretty quickly ;) basically everything was equal between juniper and cisco, except our nocmonkeys are happier with the latter than the former, so... sorry, Juniper s'ok, we have several SRXes, if Juniper goes under it won't be our fault ;) | [19:01] |
| jdoe | openvpn isn't ideal for large installations. :P | [19:05] |
| kraigu | yeah, we figured that would be the case
we got it running, fiddled with user management, and hucked it. but it outlasted MS Forefront, which somebody insisted we test. | [19:05] |
| jdoe | it works fine, but it has lower absolute throughput, and it doesn't integrate especially well with anything else.
ie existing auth setups | [19:07] |
| kraigu | yeap, that was where we hucked it
"2500 users... riiight" | [19:08] |
| up_the_irons | if i have to support 2500 users on the customer VPN, that's a problem I want to have...!
bring it on bbq time | [19:14] |
| kraigu | haha, I bet
om nom! | [19:14] |
| arenlor | up_the_irons: I try to, speaking of, will we ever get referal tracking? | [19:14] |
| up_the_irons | up_the_irons goes to the fire... | [19:14] |
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| jdoe | arenlor: we do, kinda.
jdoe got some love for referring. | [19:31] |
| arenlor | jdoe: I just want to know how many people I send sign up. | [19:31] |
| Yamazaki-kun | What a shock -- I never saw that coming from Mitt! | [19:37] |
| arenlor | Yamazaki-kun: Eh? | [19:38] |
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| Yamazaki-kun | wrong channel
but he accepted the nomination was expecting him to decline and take the other job he was thinking about. | [19:48] |
| jdoe | I don't follow, what nomination? | [19:54] |
| arenlor | jdoe: He's officially the Republican nominee for President | [19:55] |
| jdoe | president of what? | [19:55] |
| mikeputnam | president of conservative americans
political parties can die in a fire | [19:55] |
| arenlor | jdoe: Where are you from? | [19:56] |
| jdoe | HELLO FREIND I AM PRESIDENT MOBUTU *CLICK-CLICK* N'GANGGANG A DOCTOR LAWYER IN NIGERIA AND I HAVE A PROPOSITION FOR YOU AS YOUR TRUSTWORTHY REPUTATION WAS PRECEEEDED U :) | [19:58] |
| arenlor | jdoe: You have a .ca domain so I assumed Canadia, but wasn't sure. If so, shouldn't you be a bit more worried if your pants elect the war party's candidate? | [20:01] |
| jdoe | I care more about the laws you export than the wars, I give nigh on zero fucks who's elected. | [20:02] |
| arenlor | jdoe: He'd be one pushing our laws on other countries, especially laws benefitting companies. | [20:03] |
| jdoe | don't be silly, both parties do it. | [20:04] |
| arenlor | jdoe: Yes, but they are worse. | [20:05] |
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