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Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: I did a CentOS 5.8 install and for package selection, I unselected everything, to try to get a minimal install. After booting the installed system, I had to deselect a *bunch* of services from startup, b/c they were not needed (e.g. xfs, no need for fonts on a server). Question: Had I selected "Server" in the package selection list, would it have installed *less* things? I just don't
understand why a bunch of X11 libs, GTK, and fonts were installed, if I did not select a desktop system
maybe jpalmer knows... easymac: Because Linux is always a shit mess.
Probably comes with ImageMagick installed or something equally useless unless you're 99% of the world running shitty web servers.
Maybe PHP or Python stuff is installed for image processing? up_the_irons: who knows...
i don't have this issue on debian / ubuntu. they are very clean minimal installs ***: sako has joined #arpnetworks
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Aerosonic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) toddf: I know from experience on openbsd its a very small set of packages that do not depend on x11 libs RandalSchwartz: luckily with the right knobs in freebsd, you can avoid most x11 deps
echo "WITHOUT_X11=yes" >>/etc/make.conf
one of the first things I always do ***: sako has joined #arpnetworks Webhostbudd: always mike-burns: Unless I'm building a laptop, of course. milki: nah, laptop doesnt need x11 either jdoe: RandalSchwartz: shame the tags aren't named consistently, or documented anywhere that I found :( RandalSchwartz: well, there are some guidelines in the portage docs mike-burns: grep WITHOUT_ /usr/ports/*/*/Makefile jdoe: haha. RandalSchwartz: ... http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing-ports/index.html
ahh - I mean http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/
in particular - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/makefile-options.html
and see http://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head/KNOBS?view=markup
a good list of standard knobs jdoe: up_the_irons: 52428800 bytes (52 MB) copied, 47.0498 s, 1.1 MB/s ... would it be possible for you to check if my vm is using virtio for disk? ... and if it is, wtf ;) ***: mnathani has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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gcw|mini1 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) up_the_irons: jdoe: please email support@arpnetworks.com with your vps uuid ***: lazard has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) arenlor: Heh, my website responds faster than Comcast's does
up_the_irons: How many spare servers do you have, I may be recommending you to Comcast both for speed and stability. milki: >.> arenlor: They're a decent ISP, but their website goes down all the time. andol: arenlor: Rather that than the other way around? :) arenlor: Definitely of course, but still, annoying. up_the_irons: arenlor: spare servers? like, without anyone on it?
or VPS slots?
or... -: up_the_irons is confused tooth: When you need to pull over and change your server out in a jiffy arenlor: Doesn't matter, I just figure you'd need a few to support comcast ^_^ up_the_irons: arenlor: really depends how many VPS' they need
arenlor: if they want dedicated servers, i have 6 at the moment pjs: up_the_irons what DC are you in again? up_the_irons: pjs: CoreSite, 900 N. Alameda, Los Angeles arenlor: It would seem this is over, and I haven't read any of it, but: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/z1c9z/i_am_barack_obama_president_of_the_united_states/?limit=500 pjs: up_the_irons nice.. I'll probably be ordering another VPS or two soon. Not sure how I lived on EC2 and RackSpace all that time.. Switching to ARP has been the best decision since closing down my cage at Peer1 (7th and ... Hope I think) up_the_irons: pjs: awesome, thanks for the kind words! Can I use it in a testimonial? ;) -: up_the_irons drags a 3U chassis to the car... milki: lol pjs: up_the_irons of course. Want me to submit a legit testimonial?
up_the_irons I've only referred you like 5 new clients.. every time I'm promised a t-shirt, which never arrives.. and it's worse that I'm also in the LA area and we actually have friends in common... fucker :) ***: gcw has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: pjs: a legit testimonial would be awesome, yet even what you already said is fine.
pjs: *I* don't even have a t-shirt Lefty: up_the_irons: tshirts are obviously necessary up_the_irons: pjs: since you're in town, go to the next LADevOps meetup so we can meet in person :) Lefty: I'll take seven up_the_irons: lol Lefty: seriously, I'd even pay milki: time for a arpnetworks tshirt competition promotion -: up_the_irons nods ***: Ehtyar has quit IRC (Quit: Don't follow me) up_the_irons: i don't have time to update our own website, let alone design a t-shirt (wish i could!)
data center time, bbl milki: just put it up on twitter and someone will submit designs pjs: LADevOps meeting here I come... -: mercutio never got the thing of wearing branded tshirts Lefty: shows our geek cred
makes us tech hipsters mercutio: yeh but if you have real geek cred you don't need to wear a tshirt
it'd be appreciated to wear some kind of shirt though :) ***: gcw has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) arenlor: Eh, I have an HE IPv6 shirt mercutio: so my cellpohne is being mental - i look to see what other cellphones are out there, and it's still a jungle.
arenlor: most people don't even know who HE are ? milki: mercutio: geek tshirts are free swag from conventions
! mercutio: "secretly we are gay?"
that's what urban dictionary says arenlor: mercutio: huh? mercutio: 1. swag 1608 up, 470 down
"Secretly. We. Are. Gay."
just so you know what people mean when they tlk about their "swag" arenlor: Nobody thinks that. mercutio: google does arenlor: My grandmother knows what swag is. mercutio: hmm maybe it's not used here? arenlor: Maybe mercutio: oh is it like swagger?
abbreviated? Lefty: I like free tshirts from conventions
they mean I don't have to shop for shirts as often mercutio: so they make you feel confident and control wearing those shirts? arenlor: mercutio: Swag is free stuff. mercutio: oh arenlor: Generally branded though.
So like a bag that says Nike that you get for free. mercutio: i see
but people pay money for bags that say nike :) Lefty: or the notebook + pen combos I'm always getting from Dell mercutio: i had a free mp3 player from my dns provider arenlor: Or a shirt that says ARPNetworks if you've been there for a few years. mercutio: it was tacky Lefty: or the stress ball that says F5 arenlor: mercutio: That's swag Lefty: etc etc mercutio: f5 induces stress
oh right
i call it "junk" arenlor: Swag is often tacky.
mercutio: It's free though, hence not junk. Lefty: ya, I'd say 60% of it should just immediately be discarded mercutio: depends how cheap you are :)
actually i had this strange letter with a free usb hub frmo hp Lefty: but often it's stuff like little flashlights or USB car chargers mercutio: i think it was hp
it was multicoloured
and usb 1
but it was still handy for getting more ports
that said, this was like two yeras ago
and it was usb 1! Lefty: stuff that's useful but I'd rarely make the effort to go buy normally
mercutio: meh, meece and keyboards work fine with usb1 mercutio: keyboard and mouse are ok on usb 1 Lefty: ^ mercutio: yeh but flash sticks don't
i just discovered the other day that my keyboard has a usb plug arenlor: I don't need more shirts, but if someone is giving them out I'll probably take oe. mercutio: hmm
i prob wouldn't Lefty: my monitors usually have powered USB hubs built-in, thankfully mercutio: but branded beer i'd drink
my monitor has built in hub too Lefty: nothing USB3 yet though mercutio: i don't know if it's powered Lefty: most likely mercutio: not finding much info
but one site says 4 ports
weird i can only see two
ZR24W also has a 2-port USB hub on the left side of the frame. Two USB inputs are found on the bottom as well.
hmm
oh the other two are by where the connectors plug in
i don't think it is powered milki: a lot of my tshirts are free from conventions, infosessions, and whatnot ***: lazard has joined #arpnetworks arenlor: I don't know if RandalSchwartz is around, but I know he use to at least have tons of free shirts. ***: k3asd has joined #arpnetworks
k3asd` has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) Lefty: mercutio: my Dell monitors are the same - two connectors on the side, two on the bottom by the inputs
and they're all powered hubs ***: gcw has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: ahh true ***: gcw has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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