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up_the_irons: just got a really good deal on a 20 pack of WD 1TB RE4's. I hope the shipping carrier doesn't trash them... (i requested FedEx)
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toddf: up_the_irons: what kindof enclosures do you use to house your disks? that sounds like fun to bring all that storage online ;-)
too bad qemu-kvm didn't support arm yet. this would be one badass kvm platform: www.baserock.com
tooth: that's pretty cool
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mikjaer: Hey, where can i find information about the hostingcenter?
toddf: search irc logs. its mentioned about every month. I forget the details.
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mikeputnam: mikjaer: http://arpnetworks.com/
arenlor: Anyone familiar with opendkim?
mikjaer: mikeputnam: im not stupid, please don't offend me by asuming so
milki: whats hostingcenter?
mikeputnam: milki: http://arpnetworks.com/
milki: how is arpnetworks = hostingcenter?
arenlor: mikeputnam: Eh, why do you keep linking the site?
mikeputnam: mikjaer: if you take offense to text pasted in irc, it is of no consequence to me
milki: o noes, the internet is offensive!
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mikjaer: I don't, i'll just add your name to my stupidity-filter, also known as my ignorelist
-: mikeputnam nods politely
milki: its ok. everythign here is archived for eternity
mikjaer: milki: i'd like to know something about the servercenter arpnetwork uses, but it does'nt seems to be on their website. And i just joined so i havent got any irc logs
milki: o, the actual locations?
ya...
arenlor: mikjaer: What do you want to know?
milki: email support i guess?
maybe its supposed to be sekrit
to prevent death by nukes or somethign
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arenlor: Under contact you can find the location: http://arpnetworks.com/contact
milki: o
datacenter address
:o
Lefty: what does it matter?
milki: for some reason, i thought arp had stuff on the east coast o.O
arenlor: Nope, but we'd all love that.
Lefty: except those of us on the west coast ;)
arenlor: Lefty: It'd allow better redundancy.
Lefty: aye
milki: hmmm
Lefty: I certainly wouldn't vote against it
milki: coresite huh
arenlor: So, should Australia finally attack us you data will still be safe.
milki: Security: on-site officers, mantraps, biometrics, CCTV, key card controls
man...traps?
mikjaer: mantraps are just fancy doors which you have to go through and show your id / scan your eyes / fingers to be let through
arenlor: milki: It's not as good as a mino-trap, but better than a goblin trap.
mikjaer: if you fail the verification you won't be let in, or in some cases it may trap you
in most countries it would be illegal to trap, even burglars, so most places it only rejects them :)
arenlor: The idea is the latter, double doors that lock you in for the police/security.
milki: interesting. didnt know they had a name
ive seen those before then
some bank locations offer that for their atms
mikjaer: What's the most common deliverytime from order to ready?
milki: 24 hr?
o
thats max -.-
arenlor: Depends on when you order it
milki: i think up_the_irons said he provisions things at night
mikjaer: cool :-) Just ordered one, im looking forward to test it out :)
Im in Europe, what's the localtime now?
arenlor: mikjaer: You'll love it.
milki: localtime is 1125
arenlor: mikjaer: Local time doesn't matter, I think he's nocturnal.
mikjaer: Great :-) ... well, i'll just wait for it to happend then, i's 20:26 here now anyway :)
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arenlor: Is there any way to run a traceroute from a specific IP address?
andol: arenlor: If you are still wondering, I have some experience with opendkim, even if I only use it for signing.
arenlor: andol: I managed to solve the issue. Apparentally they got rid of ASDPDiscard
Now instead it's ASDPAction discard
up_the_irons: You around?
up_the_irons: toddf: no enclosure, just local disks within the SC825 2U chassis
arenlor: traceroute -i, or something
mikjaer: i'm online now and I'll be processing orders shortly
mikjaer: Great, looking forward to checking it out :-)
up_the_irons: milki: these days, I do them in the day as well.
mikjaer: :)
mikjaer: where did you hear about us?
mikjaer: I have been running wildly all over the internet to get a virtual server in the states running openbsd :)
So i guess "Google" would be the proper answer
arenlor: up_the_irons: traceroute -i let's me choose interface, but doesn't accept eth1:6 as the interface, only eth1
up_the_irons: mikjaer: ah ok
arenlor: o'rly? weird
arenlor: up_the_irons: Yeah, a bit annoying when you're trying to figure out why you can't connect to an IP but your other VPS can see it and connect.
That problem seems to have resolved itself though.
up_the_irons: ah
arenlor: I moved an IP from one VPS to the other, and it stopped working for a while.
up_the_irons: arenlor: oh, ARP cache
arenlor: switch remembers the MAC address of the old vps
arenlor: if you send a gratuitous ARP (GARP) to the gateway from that IP, it'll clear it
or something like that...
;)
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arenlor: up_the_irons: Ah, well I was hoping that doing a traceroute OUT from that IP address would force it to clear the issue. I figured it was some type of caching.
mikjaer: arenlor: what os?
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arenlor: mikjaer: Linux 3.2 (Debian 6)
up_the_irons: arenlor: yes, but just a ping is fine. it _will_ clear it, like you said.
any packet with that IP and a different MAC will cause the switch to learn the new MAC
mikjaer: if you install arping, you can do it with: arping -c 4 -A -I eth0 <new ip> and if the switch accepts it (ie. if arp-table is not locked) it will change the table :)
up_the_irons: arenlor: 3.2 isn't default on deb 6 is it?
mikjaer: oh nice!
arenlor: up_the_irons: Not default, but if you just aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade it'll upgrade to it.
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up_the_irons: arenlor: ah cool. how are you finding it to be?
mikjaer: if you are running vrp or anything like it to archeive redundancy it will send the package automaticly for you though :)
arenlor: up_the_irons: Now I just need to find out how to ping from a specific IP address ^_^
up_the_irons: arenlor: use arping like mikjaer said
arenlor: up_the_irons: 3.2 is just the same to me, I don't do anything fancy enough for it.
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up_the_irons: arenlor: roger
arenlor: up_the_irons: I can say, it's not worse.
up_the_irons: cool
arenlor: Heh, gotta love clarity. My package from UPS will be here between 9 AM and 7 PM (or later).
tooth: at least you know it won't be before 9am.
that's a start!
mikjaer: How do i set up ptr adresses?
up_the_irons: mikjaer: click "Reverse DNS" in the Portal
arenlor: mikjaer: Login to your dashboard, go to Reverse DNS.
mikjaer: duh ... sorry for asking before trying :(
arenlor: New Record, first bit is the * of 1.2.3.*
Content I believe you need to remember the last . as in you.mom.arenlor.com.
mikjaer: "Should you require use of the entire /48 at this time, we will route it to you over a link-local address." <- this is crazy? Whoever needs a whole /48'er for a vps? :-/
arenlor: I just use NS records myself so that I can maintain it how I wish.
mikjaer: That way you can give every user their own IP address?
up_the_irons: that's why we don't do it by default ;)
arenlor: I mean, that's the only reason I've been able to figure out as to WHY you'd use that many.
mikjaer: I am trying to figure out a service you can provide that will allow _that_ many users at a vps :P
arenlor: mikjaer: Not at once.
However, should I start a tracking service I can give each user a separate new IP address, so that way if you return to an IP address I know it's you.
-: arenlor really wishes he could afford "The American"
andol: If 89$ is the on-sale precis, what is the regular price for that plan?
up_the_irons: andol: $99
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andol: thanks
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arenlor: Heh, the Khan Academy javascript thing doesn't allow do-while loops.
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