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[11:38] *** plett has joined #arpnetworks [11:38] *** reardencode has joined #arpnetworks [11:40] ... go on [11:42] jdoe: Damned thing keeps trying to reinstall .net every time I launch a new game/demo, and if I don't notice in time it's not cancelable. It then forces my computer to reboot. [11:43] .net? sure it's not directx? :P [11:43] jdoe: Yes, I'm sure. [11:43] .net framework 4 [11:43] odd. [11:44] directx is fine, it doesn't force a reboot. [11:44] right. [11:51] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [11:51] *** shmget has joined #arpnetworks [11:51] *** tooth has joined #arpnetworks [11:56] steam works great on my MAC [11:57] arenlor: i guess the gaming experience is better on the mac??? ;) [11:57] not having to deal with windows is a nice touch [12:35] something up with the VNC console? [12:36] up_the_irons: ? [12:40] ... [12:42] *sigh* my company is spending $700/month with linode, and on vps's and dedicated servers.. over $3,000/mo [12:54] we;re a lot more than that with amazon. :-\ [12:54] up_the_irons: never mind. i've got a session again [13:01] amazon is for chumps. [13:07] yawp [13:07] it was a contractual requirement for us [13:08] contractual requirements are for chumps. [13:08] (you see where I'm going with this.) [13:09] apparently buckets of money is for chumps as well? [13:14] it sounds more like the buckets of money are for amazon. [13:16] yeah apparently. [13:16] it's a lot of "not my call" :-( [13:16] amazon is pretty good at a lot, but it sucks balls in a lot of other ways [13:16] $ uptime 8:16PM up 420 days, 15:39, 2 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.13, 0.09 [13:17] shall i reboot just to update the OS? [13:17] haha. [13:18] I'm just fucking with you, amazon is fine. [13:18] ix33: does it have public facing services? [13:18] pfft. i dislike it. [13:18] actively. [13:19] I left the office voip servers running for ~2 years. Only reason they rebooted is because there's a goddamn pipe running through the "Server room" that passes right over the rack, and that pipe started leaking. [13:19] (I hate this building) [13:19] ... but the services are only exposed internally and to our upstream provider, so it's not a huge security risk. [13:20] sshd and nsd [13:22] and sshd is on a non-standard port [13:23] one of my voip servers has been up for 457 days [13:23] which is since the huntsville, AL tornado, so that's pretty good [13:23] before that the only downtime was moving the server [13:23] voip you say. [13:23] how does one get voip WITH sms? [13:24] not sure [13:25] this is internal PBX [13:26] i last had a voicepulse account 3 years ago [13:26] then they got a full T1 [13:27] i need to investigate how to get this done [13:28] once I have that, I can dump the line [13:32] tooth: awkwardly. [13:32] tooth: there probably ARE providers out there that will do that [13:32] but I haven't found one yet. [13:33] ... so I use [misc services] for actual voip, and twilio for when I want to do things with sms. [13:33] twilio supports sms? [13:33] can it be a regular voip provider [13:33] not yet [13:34] it's me only issue with voip.ms [13:34] no sms [13:34] and they don';t have it on their roadplan anytime soon [13:37] they may be worried about spam. [13:38] I dunno. [13:38] I only text a few people. Twilio isn't to make things cheaper, it's just to be able to automate things from a text. [13:47] it's less about cheap and more about not being tied to a particular provider if all I need is a data plan [13:48] well fine, but what I mean is that it won't do you much good in terms of "getting that info to a phone" [13:48] unless you want to write yourself a web interface for it. [13:48] ... which now that I say that, is an interesting idea... [13:49] eh? [13:49] is there something stopping sip clients from receiving sms? [13:49] I know I haven't looked too deeply into it.. [13:50] sort of. [13:50] an awful lot of clients don't support it [13:50] (Bria does, I imagine there are a few for Android as well) [13:50] ... but more importantly, most providers don't seem to. [13:50] and depending on how you have your setup ... er ... setup, you may not either. Asterisk only recently got support, for example. [13:51] so what I was thinking is that I could have a webapp that lets me send/receive texts. Make it all ajaxy and full of ZAZZ. [13:51] you need more [13:51] you need PIZAZZ [13:52] app idea works, but unless you're an apple developer no way to add a badge or make the phone buzz or something. Shame. [13:53] jdoe: you should make it POP [13:54] looks like csipsimple supports sms as well [13:55] yeah, probably [13:55] now you just need to find a provider. [13:55] (and let me know if you do) [13:55] i've been looking. [13:55] LOOK HARDER. [13:55] i will LOOK HARDER [13:56] oh how HARD I will LOOK [14:03] :| [14:04] (not really) [14:04] ((when I have time)) [14:05] *** arenlor has quit IRC () [14:54] jdoe: what software runs on your voip servers? [15:01] freeswitch has an sms module. mod_sms [15:26] fink: asterisk. I keep telling myself I should switch, but the benefit for me is negligible. [15:27] ... and the learning curve for freeswitch is enough that I just don't care right now. [15:27] maybe if they ever release their shiny new 'stable' branch. [15:27] jdoe: yea, i'm running freeswitch. it's pretty cool, but the configuration is the absolute worst i've ever seen [15:27] but 1.2.0 has been Really Soon Now for a Really Long Time :P [15:27] xml hell [15:27] yeah. [15:27] I also do some weird things with asterisk, and while I can probably do them with freeswitch as well, it's not immediately obvious how. [15:46] *** arenlor has joined #arpnetworks [15:54] *** sako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:00] Anyone have an opinion on RSS vs ATOM? [16:06] I've always used RSS on my blogs, but not aware of if ATOM is better [17:46] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [18:40] *** lteo has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:45] *** vit has joined #arpnetworks [18:46] *** vit has quit IRC (Client Quit) [18:51] *** gcw|mbpro has joined #arpnetworks [19:18] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [19:42] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [19:49] a [19:50] my enter key on numeric pad doesn't work in putty [19:50] Works fine for me. [19:52] Hmm [19:52] oh hey it worked that itme [19:52] wtf [19:52] % M [19:53] M [19:53] M [19:53] M [19:53] eh? [19:53] it works in irssi [19:53] but not in zsh [19:53] and on two diff hosts it's doing diff [19:53] like one did M [19:53] the other seems to do nothing [19:54] and another one works normally argh [19:54] oh until i go into vim [19:54] which goes M M M [19:54] That's because it's vim [19:54] in append mode [19:54] google seems to think changing terminal type may help [19:57] setting TERM to linux instead of xterm does seem to help [19:59] but zsh doesn't like linux TERM type on another host [20:00] bah i'll just leave this down to putty being buggy [20:00] Duel booting does solve issues sometimes. [20:00] When I get sick of putty I boot into Debian and just work smoothly from there. [20:02] heh linux is being mental cos i have ati video card [20:02] Yeah [20:03] it sort of works but gets corruption down the right hadn side of the screen [20:03] apparently "intel" is the way to go now [20:03] when i had a computer with intel onboard video yeras ago at work (not my primary one) it was hell slow [20:03] but apparently they've got a lot better now [20:03] mercutio: I'd definitely recommened Intel for running Linux. [20:03] yeh but i play games in windows too [20:04] i do have another ocmputer around [20:04] Yeah, that's the fun problem. Nvidia is your best bet if you want both. [20:04] but i don't have kvm [20:04] well i had nvidia before [20:04] and it didn't seem that great :) [20:04] it's in my openindiana box now [20:04] and i have to try and figure out how to make the fans stop spinning like crazy [20:05] cos it's headless. [20:05] bloody ocmputers [20:05] can't they standardise [20:05] i think one of the biggest problems with open source drivers is with power management [20:05] but openindiana actually has binary drivers [20:05] How much can they get from you if they have paid to be certified by a standards organization? [20:05] and it's still struggling to keep the fans down [20:05] dude [20:05] i don't mean standards organisations. [20:05] like open [20:05] LOL, yeah, never. [20:05] collobartion [20:06] power saving standards etc [20:06] fan speed settings [20:06] Hah, we're more likely to see libre bios support. [20:16] *** arenlor has left [21:39] Anyone know of a password management service similar to lastpass, but has the ability to share passwords with a team, and has to be secure [21:41] Oh man, that'd be awesome. [21:43] mhoran: did we go to school together in va? [21:44] Nope! [21:45] ok…was a shot in the dark [23:23] *** gcw|mbpro has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)