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| arenlor | Fuck Steam and it's mother. | [11:37] |
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| jdoe | ... go on | [11:40] |
| arenlor | jdoe: Damned thing keeps trying to reinstall .net every time I launch a new game/demo, and if I don't notice in time it's not cancelable. It then forces my computer to reboot. | [11:42] |
| jdoe | .net? sure it's not directx? :P | [11:43] |
| arenlor | jdoe: Yes, I'm sure.
.net framework 4 | [11:43] |
| jdoe | odd. | [11:43] |
| arenlor | directx is fine, it doesn't force a reboot. | [11:44] |
| jdoe | right. | [11:44] |
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| fink | steam works great on my MAC
arenlor: i guess the gaming experience is better on the mac??? ;) | [11:56] |
| tooth | not having to deal with windows is a nice touch | [11:57] |
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| ix33 | something up with the VNC console?
up_the_irons: ? | [12:35] |
| awyeah | ... | [12:40] |
| jpalmer | *sigh* my company is spending $700/month with linode, and on vps's and dedicated servers.. over $3,000/mo | [12:42] |
| tooth | we;re a lot more than that with amazon. :-[12:54] <ix33> up_the_irons: never mind. i've got a session again | [12:54] |
| jdoe | amazon is for chumps. | [13:01] |
| tooth | yawp
it was a contractual requirement for us | [13:07] |
| jdoe | contractual requirements are for chumps.
(you see where I'm going with this.) | [13:08] |
| tooth | apparently buckets of money is for chumps as well? | [13:09] |
| jdoe | it sounds more like the buckets of money are for amazon. | [13:14] |
| tooth | yeah apparently.
it's a lot of "not my call" :-( amazon is pretty good at a lot, but it sucks balls in a lot of other ways | [13:16] |
| ix33 | $ uptime 8:16PM up 420 days, 15:39, 2 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.13, 0.09
shall i reboot just to update the OS? | [13:16] |
| tooth | haha. | [13:17] |
| jdoe | I'm just fucking with you, amazon is fine.
ix33: does it have public facing services? | [13:18] |
| tooth | pfft. i dislike it.
actively. | [13:18] |
| jdoe | I left the office voip servers running for ~2 years. Only reason they rebooted is because there's a goddamn pipe running through the "Server room" that passes right over the rack, and that pipe started leaking.
(I hate this building) ... but the services are only exposed internally and to our upstream provider, so it's not a huge security risk. | [13:19] |
| ix33 | sshd and nsd
and sshd is on a non-standard port one of my voip servers has been up for 457 days which is since the huntsville, AL tornado, so that's pretty good before that the only downtime was moving the server | [13:20] |
| tooth | voip you say.
how does one get voip WITH sms? | [13:23] |
| ix33 | not sure
this is internal PBX i last had a voicepulse account 3 years ago then they got a full T1 | [13:24] |
| tooth | i need to investigate how to get this done
once I have that, I can dump the line | [13:27] |
| jdoe | tooth: awkwardly.
tooth: there probably ARE providers out there that will do that but I haven't found one yet. ... so I use [misc services] for actual voip, and twilio for when I want to do things with sms. | [13:32] |
| tooth | twilio supports sms?
can it be a regular voip provider | [13:33] |
| jdoe | not yet | [13:33] |
| tooth | it's me only issue with voip.ms
no sms and they don';t have it on their roadplan anytime soon | [13:34] |
| jdoe | they may be worried about spam.
I dunno. I only text a few people. Twilio isn't to make things cheaper, it's just to be able to automate things from a text. | [13:37] |
| tooth | it's less about cheap and more about not being tied to a particular provider if all I need is a data plan | [13:47] |
| jdoe | well fine, but what I mean is that it won't do you much good in terms of "getting that info to a phone"
unless you want to write yourself a web interface for it. ... which now that I say that, is an interesting idea... | [13:48] |
| tooth | eh?
is there something stopping sip clients from receiving sms? I know I haven't looked too deeply into it.. | [13:49] |
| jdoe | sort of.
an awful lot of clients don't support it (Bria does, I imagine there are a few for Android as well) ... but more importantly, most providers don't seem to. and depending on how you have your setup ... er ... setup, you may not either. Asterisk only recently got support, for example. so what I was thinking is that I could have a webapp that lets me send/receive texts. Make it all ajaxy and full of ZAZZ. | [13:50] |
| tooth | you need more
you need PIZAZZ | [13:51] |
| jdoe | app idea works, but unless you're an apple developer no way to add a badge or make the phone buzz or something. Shame. | [13:52] |
| kraigu | jdoe: you should make it POP | [13:53] |
| tooth | looks like csipsimple supports sms as well | [13:54] |
| jdoe | yeah, probably
now you just need to find a provider. (and let me know if you do) | [13:55] |
| tooth | i've been looking. | [13:55] |
| jdoe | LOOK HARDER. | [13:55] |
| tooth | i will LOOK HARDER
oh how HARD I will LOOK | [13:55] |
| jdoe | :| | [14:03] |
| tooth | (not really)
((when I have time)) | [14:04] |
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| fink | jdoe: what software runs on your voip servers? | [14:54] |
| jpalmer | freeswitch has an sms module. mod_sms | [15:01] |
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| jdoe | fink: asterisk. I keep telling myself I should switch, but the benefit for me is negligible.
... and the learning curve for freeswitch is enough that I just don't care right now. maybe if they ever release their shiny new 'stable' branch. | [15:26] |
| fink | jdoe: yea, i'm running freeswitch. it's pretty cool, but the configuration is the absolute worst i've ever seen | [15:27] |
| jdoe | but 1.2.0 has been Really Soon Now for a Really Long Time :P | [15:27] |
| fink | xml hell | [15:27] |
| jdoe | yeah.
I also do some weird things with asterisk, and while I can probably do them with freeswitch as well, it's not immediately obvious how. | [15:27] |
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| arenlor | Anyone have an opinion on RSS vs ATOM? | [16:00] |
| shmget | I've always used RSS on my blogs, but not aware of if ATOM is better | [16:06] |
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| mercutio | a
my enter key on numeric pad doesn't work in putty | [19:49] |
| arenlor | Works fine for me. | [19:50] |
| mercutio | Hmm
oh hey it worked that itme wtf % M M M M | [19:52] |
| arenlor | eh? | [19:53] |
| mercutio | it works in irssi
but not in zsh and on two diff hosts it's doing diff like one did M the other seems to do nothing and another one works normally argh oh until i go into vim which goes M M M | [19:53] |
| arenlor | That's because it's vim | [19:54] |
| mercutio | in append mode
google seems to think changing terminal type may help setting TERM to linux instead of xterm does seem to help but zsh doesn't like linux TERM type on another host bah i'll just leave this down to putty being buggy | [19:54] |
| arenlor | Duel booting does solve issues sometimes.
When I get sick of putty I boot into Debian and just work smoothly from there. | [20:00] |
| mercutio | heh linux is being mental cos i have ati video card | [20:02] |
| arenlor | Yeah | [20:02] |
| mercutio | it sort of works but gets corruption down the right hadn side of the screen
apparently "intel" is the way to go now when i had a computer with intel onboard video yeras ago at work (not my primary one) it was hell slow but apparently they've got a lot better now | [20:03] |
| arenlor | mercutio: I'd definitely recommened Intel for running Linux. | [20:03] |
| mercutio | yeh but i play games in windows too
i do have another ocmputer around | [20:03] |
| arenlor | Yeah, that's the fun problem. Nvidia is your best bet if you want both. | [20:04] |
| mercutio | but i don't have kvm
well i had nvidia before and it didn't seem that great :) it's in my openindiana box now and i have to try and figure out how to make the fans stop spinning like crazy cos it's headless. bloody ocmputers can't they standardise i think one of the biggest problems with open source drivers is with power management but openindiana actually has binary drivers | [20:04] |
| arenlor | How much can they get from you if they have paid to be certified by a standards organization? | [20:05] |
| mercutio | and it's still struggling to keep the fans down
dude i don't mean standards organisations. like open | [20:05] |
| arenlor | LOL, yeah, never. | [20:05] |
| mercutio | collobartion
power saving standards etc fan speed settings | [20:05] |
| arenlor | Hah, we're more likely to see libre bios support. | [20:06] |
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| mnathani | Anyone know of a password management service similar to lastpass, but has the ability to share passwords with a team, and has to be secure | [21:39] |
| mhoran | Oh man, that'd be awesome. | [21:41] |
| fink | mhoran: did we go to school together in va? | [21:43] |
| mhoran | Nope! | [21:44] |
| fink | ok…was a shot in the dark | [21:45] |
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