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| jpalmer | ptierno: network-based backups have kinda become the standard at this point. | [01:00] |
| ptierno | jpalmer: yes. but cant seem to find an answer as to the best way to go about a full system backup
i think i am going to stick to rsync some recommend bacula | [01:04] |
| jpalmer | I'm a bacula guy, but each shop is different, and has different needs. and all solutions have their pros/cons | [01:15] |
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| tooth | and further, different solutions for different parts of your network | [06:55] |
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| toddf | just to throw out a new name on the backup front, cyphertite.com is the most secure solution I've seen (you keep the keys, they can't read the data) plus it does dedup and the client is opensource .. fwiw .. | [08:41] |
| mike-burns | How's it compare with tarsnap? | [08:42] |
| twobitha1ker | sounds a lot like tarsnap actually | [08:52] |
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| mhoran | Same.
They also cant decrypt your data. Plus it's open source (though restricted license, for good reason), with a bounty for finding bugs. | [09:23] |
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| mike-burns | Glad it has competition. | [10:04] |
| kraigu | available to Canadians? :P | [10:05] |
| mike-burns | http://goo.gl/jSMhv - tarsnap is available to Canadians. | [10:07] |
| kraigu | oh, I missed that.
but I did see another post from him talking about his efforts on behalf of Revenue Canada, I just didn't get 4 when I added 2+2 I guess | [10:08] |
| fink | anybody have a recommendation for ordering business cards online? | [10:11] |
| jdoe | kraigu: cperciva is canadian
sfu alum, I think | [10:12] |
| kraigu | jdoe: I know | [10:12] |
| mike-burns | jdoe: That's why tarsnap wasn't available to Canadians for a long while. | [10:12] |
| kraigu | jdoe: his difficulty in selling to fellow canucks was related to collecting tax from out-of-province types
I had every sympathy for that; our tax laws are grotendous. :( | [10:13] |
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| tooth | you people with your own mailservers, including spam prevention, do you run 1 or 2 MXs ? | [11:58] |
| jdoe | one. | [12:00] |
| kraigu | one | [12:00] |
| jdoe | backup mx only complicates antispam shit, and realistically anyone/thing will retry for a while anyway.
so assuming you're not expecting week-long outages you should be fine. | [12:00] |
| tooth | yeah. exactly the first two comments.
my friend and I are backup mx/dns for each other. cept his version of spam control is shitty bayesian that he spends 10min a day on and i get tons of shit from his srver to mine that I can't filter sanely. jdoe, does it complicate it if you control both MXs? | [12:02] |
| fink | tooth: i'm setting up dovecot with a spam filter this weekend | [12:04] |
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| fink | check this out: http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/Projects/dovecot-antispam/ | [12:05] |
| tooth | ah cool. | [12:06] |
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| jdoe | tooth: yes.
tooth: the rules need to be in sync on both sides, user lists need to be mirrored, etc. etc. also if you have greylisting/postscreen/similar on both sides, that ratchets up your retry count real quick. tooth: backup dns is meh, there are plenty of places (afraid, rollernet, etc) that will provide backup dns for you tell your friend to get bent ;) | [12:12] |
| tooth | well, I can keep backup dns with him. i mean. doesn't hurt. my changes get replicated
i'll just drop him as backupmx | [12:18] |
| kraigu | that's what I'd suggest | [12:26] |
| jdoe | I suggest dropping him. | [12:26] |
| kraigu | depends how personally he takes it :P | [12:27] |
| mike-burns | Stage a spam filter intervention. | [12:27] |
| tooth | why drop working backup DNS? | [12:27] |
| kraigu | tooth: have you tried failing your primary in various ways to see how the backup is actually working? (not trying to be a dick, but, well, how sure are you that it's an actual backup?) | [12:28] |
| tooth | yup. we tested a long while ago | [12:28] |
| jdoe | tooth: no, I mean him personally. Kill him, eat his heart, assume his powers. | [12:28] |
| kraigu | ...
jdoe thinks he's the highlander | [12:29] |
| tooth | oh i misunderstood then. righto, carryon | [12:29] |
| jdoe | "thinks" | [12:29] |
| kraigu | also, watch out, higher incidences of brain issues in cannibals | [12:29] |
| tooth | there can be only one | [12:29] |
| jdoe | jdoe CARRIES A PORK SWORD | [12:29] |
| tooth | tooth carries a longpork sword | [12:29] |
| kraigu | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_%28disease%29 etc | [12:29] |
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| arenlor | up_the_irons: Everything go through smoothly with the payment? | [19:32] |
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| up_the_irons | arenlor: check the Portal, you can see if the invoice is paid | [20:45] |
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| jlgaddis | HE provides a free dns service that's pretty reliable. http://dns.he.net
whoops, was stuck in scrollback | [21:10] |
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