#arpnetworks 2012-07-31,Tue

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arenlorup_the_irons: I'm quite often getting really long hops on the last two steps, any clue why that would be? [12:12]
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jlgaddissolar flares [14:32]
kraigujlgaddis: did you use the BOFH Excuse Generator for that? [14:33]
jlgaddisi just typed "bofh" into a terminal, but i have it aliased to use that
$ bofh
Scheduled global CPU outage
alias bofh="nc bofh.jeffballard.us 666 | tail -n 1 | sed -e 's/Your excuse is: //'" 		[14:35]
milkilol
cute 		[14:37]
kraiguhaha, nice. [14:39]
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up_the_ironsarenlor: no clue
arenlor: a traceroute giving me some more information to go on would be more helpful; otherwise "no clue" is the answer :) 		[15:08]
arenlorup_the_irons: pastebin.com alright? [15:09]
up_the_ironsarenlor: anything where i can see it [15:11]
arenlorup_the_irons: http://pastebin.com/46ibiuu2 [15:11]
up_the_ironsarenlor: hop 9 is on east coast, hop 10 on west, so there'll be a big jump (about 70 - 80 ms) [15:13]
arenlorup_the_irons: I'm not 100% on how traceroute works, so would that explain the long hops of 11 and 12? [15:15]
jlgaddishop #9 is probably in ashburn
so, then you have physics to deal with between hop 9 and 10, like garry said
wrt traceroute, here's an awesome nanog presentation: http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog45/presentations/Interpret_traceroutes.wmv
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arenlorarenlor shudders to say this, but
I hope to have Comcast soon, which should be fast enough that I won't have any issues. 		[15:20]
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up_the_ironsarenlor: Comcast has IPv6 in some regions too [15:24]
arenlorup_the_irons: Nice, I would love native IPv6 [15:25]
jlgaddiscomcast's light doesn't travel faster between DC and LA =) [15:25]
up_the_ironsarenlor: well, 11 and 12 are not too much more than 9 and 10 [15:25]
arenlorjlgaddis: No, but for whatever reason Frotier's goes slower. I've had two ISPs over the years of my ARP use and both of them were far better than Frontier. [15:26]
jlgaddisthat doesn't really surprise me, frontier has full scale hours long outages around here quite often
i have customers w/ frontier circuits and when i call and bitch they're just like "meh, we've give you a credit". they don't even care about the SLAs. 		[15:27]
arenlorjlgaddis: You mean full scale hours long RSI prevention breaks. [15:28]
jlgaddislol [15:28]
arenlorWe get those too here, quite annoying. Plus until I called in there was something wrong that caused it to disconnect every time that the phone rang. [15:29]
up_the_ironslol [15:31]
arenlorYeah, you know it's bad when the tech support agent starts laughing and asks you to repeat it.
Took them ~3 hours to figure it out and fix it.
But, it was all at their end, so, don't know what the hell was going on. 		[15:31]
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jlgaddisT1 circuits? [16:46]
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up_the_ironsdoomviking: hello doom
doomviking: how's the new gig? 		[17:43]
doomvikinghey yo
easing in
digging in
evaluating what I want to blow up, what I want to keep, etc. :) 		[17:43]
up_the_ironsdoomviking: lol, cool [17:49]
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jdoednsspam :| [18:15]
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qbitpotatospan! [18:52]
arenlorAnyone ever setup hybrid willing to help me figure out why I can't get SSL to work? [18:53]
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jlgaddiswhat's hybrid? [19:24]
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mhoranIRCd. [19:39]
jlgaddisahhh [19:40]
arenlorI left off that part wit the idea that if you don't know what it is, you can't help. [19:40]
kraiguSSL's pretty easy with Unreal, are you married to hybrid? ;) [19:42]
arenlorkraigu: It's up and running, and I have services. So pretty much. It's the only part that doesn't appear to be working, and I cannot figure out why. [19:43]
mhoranI run dancer, so I can't really help you out. [19:43]
kraigudoh :( yeah, sorry [19:43]
mhoranerf, ratbox. [19:43]
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jlgaddisarenlor: well my first thought was that it was a codename for one of the ubuntu releases [19:50]
arenlorjlgaddis: Ah lol, true, they do weird names. [19:50]
mhoranHah. [19:51]
finkmozilla too
iceweasel? 		[19:52]
mhoranSilly copyright. [19:53]
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finkgutsy gibbon was my favorite [19:53]
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ptiernoanyone around? [23:08]
meingtslaNo [23:11]
ptiernogo to sleep
its late ;) 		[23:12]
meingtslaNo it's not [23:14]
ptiernoi guess depends where you are ;P
hey. whats your opinion on a full system backup solution over network? 		[23:14]
jlgaddiswell it sure beats tape drives in every server
and it's faster than sneakernet 		[23:21]
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ptiernohuh? [23:43]
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