I hope there's not a policy against this, I don't plan on making a habit of repeating it, but if anybody has use for a more than capable OpenBSD admin (who also knows other os's to varying degrees) I'm in the market to respond with many hours and much attention to any temporary small or large projects in exchange for $100 USD/hr. doesn't have to be unix, though thats my strength. flavor me 'hungry'. thanks for your time. remote support only unless you're in the OKC area. toddf: Wish I could help you out. If I hear any requests I'll send them your way though. ;-) hummina! toddf: rough, best of luck. jdoe: thanks.