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| zeshoem | Would arpnetworks allow Windows on the new dedicated servers? If so would there be a mechanism to upload the iso to install ? | [00:31] |
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| jlgaddis | windows!? blasphemy! | [01:10] |
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| DaCa | :) | [01:32] |
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| up_the_irons | zeshoem: windows would be allowed, yes. I can put in the ISO you want also, on our ISO share, and you boot it via IPMI virtual media (all of which, will be documented; it's quite easy)
JosephB: roger woops jlgaddis: roger tab fail CaZe: rad :) | [02:28] |
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| himuraken | Anyone having issues with up/down or latency? My VM has been reachable the whole time but it is reporting sites down that arent down.
For instance, my arp vm checks sites at other locations and since yesterday I am getting all sorts of false positives. Could be something else, just thought that I would check. | [07:08] |
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| qbit_ | would it be possible to get a "small" vps with mroe storage?
actually - nm that storage will work just fine :D | [11:18] |
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| up_the_irons | qbit_: yes, you can add storage, see "VPS Power Ups" on http://arpnetworks.com/vps | [13:23] |
| qbit_ | ohlol
i think i even asked this before qbit_ covers his shame | [13:26] |
| up_the_irons | w00t, our mirror is finally on the CentOS mirror list
and I see traffic :) up_the_irons slaps qbit_ | [13:26] |
| qbit_ | :D | [13:28] |
| kraigu | up_the_irons: now you've expended effort. better to make him slap himself. :D | [13:33] |
| up_the_irons | hah | [13:33] |
| kraigu | kraigu has seen Full Metal Jacket and knows how the game is played | [13:34] |
| jpalmer | up_the_irons: nice!
v4 and v6? | [13:39] |
| up_the_irons | jpalmer: i'm not graphing the v6 traffic, but it's available
jpalmer: i actually do see a spike in my overall v6 traffic, so that's probably it ;) | [13:40] |
| jpalmer | up I see you listed in the mirrorlist for v6. haven't seen you on v4 yet, but.. you only get like 10 at a time, and they have tons of mirrors on v4
you can probably tail your webserver logs for a few moments, and see if external v4 clients are hitting you though. is it a decent amount of traffic though (always curious about the traffic these mirrors see. especially ssince 6.3 was just released and tons of people are yum updating a bit of a spammish paste, but: # yum update Loaded plugins: fastestmirror Determining fastest mirrors epel/metalink | 12 kB 00:00 * base: mirrors.arpnetworks.com * epel: mirrors.solfo.com * extras: mirrors.arpnetworks.com * updates: mirrors.arpnetworks.com base | [13:52] |
| up_the_irons | jpalmer: u don't see it on v4? i think it's there...
http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=30 i saw a v6 spike of about 3 megs, but very thin spike. v4 has been pushing about 8 megs for the past couple hours wow, yum urlgrabber is going to town... 70.184.200.138 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:17 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/os/i386/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 1384 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22" 2001:480:10:160:baac:6fff:fe92:12ed - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:18 -0700] "GET /CentOS/6/updates/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 3816 "-" "urlgrabber/3.9.1 yum/3.2.29" 107.6.91.154 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:18 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/extras/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22" 199.127.104.10 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:18 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/extras/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22" 2001:480:10:160:baac:6fff:fe92:12ed - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:18 -0700] "GET /CentOS/6/updates/x86_64/repodata/8666a725ddf1407074cef0c133888bc217dfa4b6ab539540c847e3842b1c3540-primary.sqlite.bz2 HTTP/1.1" 200 667993 "-" "urlgrabber/3.9.1 yum/3.2.29" 54.248.110.19 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:18 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/os/i386/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 1384 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22" 72.51.37.138 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:19 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/extras/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22" 75.55.68.119 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:19 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/extras/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22" 2607:fb50:131:95:230:48ff:fe87:e180 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:19 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5/extras/i386/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22" 63.134.253.50 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:20 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/os/i386/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 1384 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22" 169.228.63.60 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:20 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/extras/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22" 69.8.209.6 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:21 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/extras/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22" (sorry for the spam paste) that just keeps scrolling... | [14:00] |
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| up_the_irons | so that's interesting.. how does yum know to find me? In the deb / ubuntu world, the place you fetch from is static, never changes. this might be something i actually *like* about yum :)
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| jpalmer | up_the_irons: I see it on the v4 list now.
up_the_irons: answer to your question about how yum knows to find you: http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=6&arch=x86_64&repo=os the yum repo for centos, includes this line: mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch=$basearch&repo=os (which you can override and make static, if you have an unofficial local mirror. Thats what I did the other night to install from your mirror before it was official | [15:05] |
| phlux | I don't know why, but I never was a fan of RPM or DEB package systems.
I prefer FreeBSD or Gentoo's portage and ArchLinux's pacman. | [15:15] |
| jpalmer | they all have their pros and cons
I like fbsd's ports best. but, I think for binary based package management, it's hard to beat rpm/yum | [15:16] |
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| jdoe | hrm
wish I knew how out-of-sync freebsd's pf is. | [15:29] |
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| up_the_irons | jpalmer: ah ok
phlux: i like .deb's enough. rpm's were super painful to make. .deb's are also painful, but not as much for me | [17:59] |
| jpalmer: got a couple 80 mbps spikes on the mirror. dang, yum must love my latency | [18:13] | |
| jpalmer | up_the_irons: I was actually thinking about that.. I wonder how many of those connections are people using HE.net tunnels? aren't you peering directly with them? | [18:14] |
| up_the_irons | jpalmer: yes, i peer with HE
i peer with them over IPv4 also lots of nice routes from them :) | [18:15] |
| jpalmer | I'd venture a guess that.. people using HE tunnels, are probably hitting you pretty heavily since their traffic is going to fremont | [18:15] |
| up_the_irons | jpalmer: i checked out http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=6.3&arch=x86_64&repo=os in a browser, and saw my mirror there. do you know how they make that list?
jpalmer: right, i would guess that too | [18:15] |
| jpalmer | no, but avid probably would | [18:16] |
| up_the_irons | jpalmer: i'm seeing a lot of non-HE IPv6 traffic too though | [18:16] |
| jpalmer | up_the_irons: interesting
too bad the ipv6 geo-IP stuff isn't very good. that'd be awesome if you could get a ballpark hehe | [18:16] |
| up_the_irons | jpalmer: get a ballpark? | [18:18] |
| jpalmer | a idea of where (geographically) most of your traffic is coming from. | [18:18] |
| up_the_irons | jpalmer: ah yeah, that'd be cool
perhaps something using google maps' API + a dump of like 100 IPs, could map it or something... ;) | [18:19] |
| jpalmer | ehh, probbaly isn't worth putting that much effort into. | [18:20] |
| up_the_irons | yep | [18:20] |
| jpalmer | fwiw, in FL.. using ipv4, I have not seen your mirror listed in mirrorlist yet. they must have some way to do geo-IP type stuff to populate that list. | [18:20] |
| up_the_irons | jpalmer: yeah makes sense | [18:21] |
| jpalmer | jpalmer wants to hear violent femmes.
jpalmer loads up spotify | [18:27] |
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| up_the_irons | i want to set up a mailing list server for a small list, but i don't want to manage mailman. anyone know of a turnkey solution? I checked out mailchimp, but i don't think that fits my needs
i don't wanna host it either, just want to set it and forget it... | [19:09] |
| jpalmer | up_the_irons: DNS: list CNAME ghs.google.com
j/k, that doesn't work well for a mailing list. | [19:10] |
| up_the_irons | damnit, u made me google it already.. | [19:11] |
| jpalmer | http://www.ymlp.com/free.html | [19:12] |
| up_the_irons | jpalmer: the thing is, a lot of these solutions (like mailchimp), seem to be "one-way", for like newsletters and stuff. i need a 2-way mailing list, like the one that mailman makes | [19:13] |
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| jpalmer | up_the_irons: is it a closed list, or open? googl groups may suffice. | [19:16] |
| up_the_irons | jpalmer: closed list | [19:16] |
| jpalmer | jpalmer looks at the pricing for google groups for business | [19:17] |
| up_the_irons | jpalmer: non-tech, just related to my local community. probably less than 100 users and shouldn't be public.
i might just have to set up mailman... ;) | [19:17] |
| jpalmer | http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=167096
do you have a domain for this, or just using a subdomain of another? | [19:19] |
| up_the_irons | jpalmer: probably subdomain | [19:20] |
| jpalmer | up_the_irons: google groups sounds like it'd fit your bill. just set up a free google apps for domains account, and use the domain specific google groups | [19:24] |
| up_the_irons | jpalmer: yeah, i'm reading about it right now, seems like it would work. i think that groups can be private. i'll try it out and see. | [19:24] |
| jpalmer | I really like google apps, but.. never used the groups part of it. | [19:25] |
| jdoe | mailman is hateful (but better than everything else I can think of off the top of my head)
if it's relatively low traffic and low user count, you could consider a procmail recipe instead I guess. | [19:25] |
| jpalmer | oof, I've done the "procmail a a groups manager" thing before. save yourself a WHOLE world of suckage, and avoid it
bbl | [19:28] |
| jdoe | haha.
like I said, if it's a SMALL list... it's not so bad,. I've done it with 20 or so people. but higher, yeah, I ... wouldn't,. | [19:35] |
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| up_the_irons | i think google groups is the way to go... my group is created, and only members are supposed to be able to "view" messages, so I guess that makes it private...
and yeah i'm not going to go through the procmail pain, sorry jdoe ;) cd $dinner | [19:56] |
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