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[00:31] <zeshoem> Would arpnetworks allow Windows on the new dedicated servers? If so would there be a mechanism to upload the iso to install ?
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[01:10] <jlgaddis> windows!?  blasphemy!
[01:32] <DaCa> :)
[02:28] <up_the_irons> zeshoem: windows would be allowed, yes.  I can put in the ISO you want also, on our ISO share, and you boot it via IPMI virtual media (all of which, will be documented; it's quite easy)
[02:30] <up_the_irons> JosephB: roger
[02:30] <up_the_irons> woops
[02:30] <up_the_irons> jlgaddis: roger
[02:30] <up_the_irons> tab fail
[02:34] <up_the_irons> CaZe: rad :)
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[07:08] <himuraken> Anyone having issues with up/down or latency? My VM has been reachable the whole time but it is reporting sites down that arent down.
[07:08] <himuraken> For instance, my arp vm checks sites at other locations and since yesterday I am getting all sorts of false positives. Could be something else, just thought that I would check.
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[11:18] <qbit_> would it be possible to get a "small" vps with mroe storage?
[11:19] <qbit_> actually - nm
[11:19] <qbit_> that storage will work just fine :D
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[13:23] <up_the_irons> qbit_: yes, you can add storage, see "VPS Power Ups" on http://arpnetworks.com/vps
[13:26] <qbit_> ohlol
[13:26] <qbit_> i think i even asked this before
[13:26] * qbit_ covers his shame
[13:26] <up_the_irons> w00t, our mirror is finally on the CentOS mirror list
[13:26] <up_the_irons> and I see traffic :)
[13:26] * up_the_irons slaps qbit_
[13:28] <qbit_> :D
[13:33] <kraigu> up_the_irons: now you've expended effort. better to make him slap himself. :D
[13:33] <up_the_irons> hah
[13:34] * kraigu has seen Full Metal Jacket and knows how the game is played
[13:39] <jpalmer> up_the_irons: nice!
[13:39] <jpalmer> v4 and v6?
[13:40] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: i'm not graphing the v6 traffic, but it's available
[13:41] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: i actually do see a spike in my overall v6 traffic, so that's probably it ;)
[13:52] <jpalmer> up I see you listed in the mirrorlist for v6.  haven't seen you on v4 yet,  but..  you only get like 10 at a time, and they have tons of mirrors on v4
[13:53] <jpalmer> you can probably tail your webserver logs for a few moments, and see if external v4 clients are hitting you though.
[13:53] <jpalmer> is it a decent amount of traffic though  (always curious about the traffic these mirrors see.  especially ssince 6.3 was just released and tons of people are yum updating
[13:55] <jpalmer> a bit of a spammish paste,  but:
[13:55] <jpalmer> # yum update
[13:55] <jpalmer> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
[13:55] <jpalmer> Determining fastest mirrors
[13:55] <jpalmer> epel/metalink                                                                                                                                                 |  12 kB     00:00      * base: mirrors.arpnetworks.com * epel: mirrors.solfo.com * extras: mirrors.arpnetworks.com * updates: mirrors.arpnetworks.com
[13:55] <jpalmer> base
[14:00] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: u don't see it on v4?  i think it's there...
[14:01] <up_the_irons> http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=30
[14:02] <up_the_irons> i saw a v6 spike of about 3 megs, but very thin spike.  v4 has been pushing about 8 megs for the past couple hours
[14:03] <up_the_irons> wow, yum urlgrabber is going to town...
[14:03] <up_the_irons> 70.184.200.138 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:17 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/os/i386/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 1384 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22"
[14:03] <up_the_irons> 2001:480:10:160:baac:6fff:fe92:12ed - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:18 -0700] "GET /CentOS/6/updates/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 3816 "-" "urlgrabber/3.9.1 yum/3.2.29"
[14:03] <up_the_irons> 107.6.91.154 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:18 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/extras/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22"
[14:03] <up_the_irons> 199.127.104.10 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:18 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/extras/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22"
[14:03] <up_the_irons> 2001:480:10:160:baac:6fff:fe92:12ed - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:18 -0700] "GET /CentOS/6/updates/x86_64/repodata/8666a725ddf1407074cef0c133888bc217dfa4b6ab539540c847e3842b1c3540-primary.sqlite.bz2 HTTP/1.1" 200 667993 "-" "urlgrabber/3.9.1 yum/3.2.29"
[14:04] <up_the_irons> 54.248.110.19 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:18 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/os/i386/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 1384 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22"
[14:04] <up_the_irons> 72.51.37.138 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:19 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/extras/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22"
[14:04] <up_the_irons> 75.55.68.119 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:19 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/extras/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22"
[14:04] <up_the_irons> 2607:fb50:131:95:230:48ff:fe87:e180 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:19 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5/extras/i386/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22"
[14:04] <up_the_irons> 63.134.253.50 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:20 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/os/i386/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 1384 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22"
[14:04] <up_the_irons> 169.228.63.60 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:20 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/extras/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22"
[14:04] <up_the_irons> 69.8.209.6 - - [12/Jul/2012:14:04:21 -0700] "GET /CentOS/5.8/extras/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0 yum/3.2.22"
[14:04] <up_the_irons> (sorry for the spam paste)
[14:04] <up_the_irons> that just keeps scrolling...
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[14:05] <up_the_irons> so that's interesting.. how does yum know to find me?  In the deb / ubuntu world, the place you fetch from is static, never changes.  this might be something i actually *like* about yum :)
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[15:05] <jpalmer> up_the_irons: I see it on the v4 list now.
[15:05] <jpalmer> up_the_irons: answer to your question about how yum knows to find you:
[15:05] <jpalmer> http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=6&arch=x86_64&repo=os
[15:06] <jpalmer> the yum repo for centos,  includes this line:
[15:06] <jpalmer> mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch=$basearch&repo=os
[15:07] <jpalmer> (which you can override and make static, if you have an unofficial local mirror.  Thats what I did the other night to install from your mirror before it was official
[15:15] <phlux> I don't know why, but I never was a fan of RPM or DEB package systems.
[15:15] <phlux> I prefer FreeBSD or Gentoo's portage and ArchLinux's pacman.
[15:16] <jpalmer> they all have their pros and cons
[15:17] <jpalmer> I like fbsd's ports best.  but,  I think for binary based package management,  it's hard to beat rpm/yum
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[15:29] <jdoe> hrm
[15:29] <jdoe> wish I knew how out-of-sync freebsd's pf is.
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[17:59] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: ah ok
[17:59] <up_the_irons> phlux: i like .deb's enough.  rpm's were super painful to make.  .deb's are also painful, but not as much for me
[18:13] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: got a couple 80 mbps spikes on the mirror.  dang, yum must love my latency
[18:14] <jpalmer> up_the_irons: I was actually thinking about that..   I wonder how many of those connections are people using HE.net tunnels?  aren't you peering directly with them?
[18:15] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: yes, i peer with HE
[18:15] <up_the_irons> i peer with them over IPv4 also
[18:15] <up_the_irons> lots of nice routes from them :)
[18:15] <jpalmer> I'd venture a guess that.. people using HE tunnels,  are probably hitting you pretty heavily since their traffic is going to fremont
[18:15] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: i checked out http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=6.3&arch=x86_64&repo=os in a browser, and saw my mirror there.  do you know how they make that list?
[18:16] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: right, i would guess that too
[18:16] <jpalmer> no,  but avid probably would
[18:16] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: i'm seeing a lot of non-HE IPv6 traffic too though
[18:16] <jpalmer> up_the_irons:  interesting
[18:17] <jpalmer> too bad the ipv6 geo-IP stuff isn't very good.  that'd be awesome if you could get a ballpark hehe
[18:18] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: get a ballpark?
[18:18] <jpalmer> a idea of where (geographically) most of your traffic is coming from.
[18:19] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: ah yeah, that'd be cool
[18:19] <up_the_irons> perhaps something using google maps' API + a dump of like 100 IPs, could map it or something... ;)
[18:20] <jpalmer> ehh,  probbaly isn't worth putting that much effort into.
[18:20] <up_the_irons> yep
[18:20] <jpalmer> fwiw,  in FL.. using ipv4,  I have not seen your mirror listed in mirrorlist yet.   they must have some way to do geo-IP type stuff to populate that list.
[18:21] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: yeah makes sense
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[19:09] <up_the_irons> i want to set up a mailing list server for a small list, but i don't want to manage mailman.  anyone know of a turnkey solution?  I checked out mailchimp, but i don't think that fits my needs
[19:10] <up_the_irons> i don't wanna host it either, just want to set it and forget it...
[19:10] <jpalmer> up_the_irons: DNS:    list CNAME ghs.google.com
[19:11] <jpalmer> j/k,  that doesn't work well for a mailing list.
[19:11] <up_the_irons> damnit, u made me google it already..
[19:12] <jpalmer> http://www.ymlp.com/free.html
[19:13] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: the thing is, a lot of these solutions (like mailchimp), seem to be "one-way", for like newsletters and stuff.  i need a 2-way mailing list, like the one that mailman makes
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[19:16] <jpalmer> up_the_irons: is it a closed list, or open?  googl groups may suffice.
[19:16] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: closed list
[19:17] * jpalmer looks at the pricing for google groups for business
[19:17] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: non-tech, just related to my local community.  probably less than 100 users and shouldn't be public.
[19:17] <up_the_irons> i might just have to set up mailman... ;)
[19:19] <jpalmer> http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=167096
[19:20] <jpalmer> do you have a domain for this,  or just using a subdomain of another?
[19:20] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: probably subdomain
[19:24] <jpalmer> up_the_irons: google groups sounds like it'd fit your bill.  just set up a free google apps for domains account,  and use the domain specific google groups
[19:24] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: yeah, i'm reading about it right now, seems like it would work.  i think that groups can be private.  i'll try it out and see.
[19:25] <jpalmer> I really like google apps,  but.. never used the groups part of it.
[19:25] <jdoe> mailman is hateful (but better than everything else I can think of off the top of my head)
[19:26] <jdoe> if it's relatively low traffic and low user count, you could consider a procmail recipe instead I guess.
[19:28] <jpalmer> oof,  I've done the "procmail a a groups manager" thing before.  save yourself a WHOLE world of suckage, and avoid it
[19:30] <jpalmer> bbl
[19:35] <jdoe> haha.
[19:35] <jdoe> like I said, if it's a SMALL list... it's not so bad,.
[19:35] <jdoe> I've done it with 20 or so people.
[19:35] <jdoe> but higher, yeah, I ... wouldn't,.
[19:56] <up_the_irons> i think google groups is the way to go...  my group is created, and only members are supposed to be able to "view" messages, so I guess that makes it private...
[19:57] <up_the_irons> and yeah i'm not going to go through the procmail pain, sorry jdoe ;)
[19:57] <up_the_irons> cd $dinner
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