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[12:01] <jpalmer> up_the_irons: ping
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[13:06] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: pong
[13:06] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: my mirror pulled 6.3 yesterday, w00t
[13:06] <jpalmer> up_the_irons: I was just going to ask if I could rent 10g of storage for a few minutes,  so I didn't have to transfer a tarball'd backup to my home machine.  But,  I've downloaded 80% of it now
[13:07] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: roger
[13:08] <jpalmer> up_the_irons: nice.  so I'll be trying your mirror tonight then.  going to install 6.3 fresh, without the pmtmr edits and see if yum dumps core like it did in previous versions.
[13:08] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: cool
[13:09] <jpalmer> up_the_irons: would you be able to give me a temporary shell account (for scp) with 10g space?   I'd need it for a day.
[13:10] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: can i just attach 10G to your VM?
[13:10] <jpalmer> oh, if that'd be easier,  sure.   I just figured a shell would be easier
[13:11] <up_the_irons> yeah, attachment is actually easier
[13:11] <jpalmer> actually,  hrm..
[13:11] <jpalmer> if I make a mistake in reinstalling and blow away the FS..  I'd lose the data though.  while slim, I'd rather not risk it
[13:12] <jpalmer> well.  hold on (sorry to be fickle)
[13:12] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: cuz, i don't really have shell accounts anywhere
[13:12] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: well, actually, maybe the mirror server...
[13:13] <jpalmer> I've already got most of it downloaded.  I can wait till it gets to 100%,  and then use that as my "oh shit" scenario.   attaching the disk would be good.  saves me from having to transfer several gigs back up to ARP (at 768k max theoretical upload)
[13:14] <up_the_irons> roger
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[14:07] <orion> hmm
[14:17] <up_the_irons> hrm
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[15:07] <zeshoem> When will the new dedicated server options be available
[15:07] <zeshoem> also will there be options to get cpanel preinstalled?
[15:18] <mike-burns> I doubt there will be a cpanel option, but I won't speak for up_the_irons .
[15:41] <up_the_irons> no cpanel option; if you want that, just install it yourself
[15:44] <up_the_irons> zeshoem: they are available now, depending on the configuration.  do you require more than 2 HDs?
[15:45] <jpalmer> hmm
[15:46] <jdoe> should raid the VHDs for improved reliability :|
[15:47] <up_the_irons> jdoe: VHD?  On the new dedicateds, I'm requiring a minimum of 2 HDs and that software RAID is used.  We won't be offering configurations that we wouldn't use ourselves :)  And, with only 1 HD, you're asking for downtime when it fails
[15:49] <jdoe> is debian (for example) even smart enough to install grub on both disks yet?
[15:49] <jdoe> (in a software mirror)
[15:50] <up_the_irons> zeshoem: i have two of the 3.4GHz servers online now, and it is relatively easy to add more, but I won't be announcing general availability until I get our new blade chassis online.  there's quite a bit of savings using the blades vs. standalone 1Us, albeit you can't go more than 2x HDs per blade without Infiniband, FC, etc...
[15:51] <up_the_irons> jdoe: I would assume so, since I have a Ubuntu 10.04 system set up exactly like that
[15:51] <jpalmer> that's ok though. you wanted to move to SANs anyway :P
[15:51] <up_the_irons> jdoe: it required like 0 skillz...  you tell the installer you want to use software RAID on both disks, and it just does it all :)
[15:52] <jdoe> up_the_irons: I'm pretty sure the installer still just puts it on the first disk.
[15:52] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: i would do SANs if the cost / benefit is there :)
[15:52] <jdoe> at least every installer I remember does that.
[15:52] <jdoe> "hurrr do you want to install it to the mbr or partition?"
[15:52] <jdoe> can't remember what update-grub does offhand.
[15:52] <jdoe> but I know I've seen machines fail like that.
[15:52] <jdoe> (mirrored, one disk survived, but has no boot loader)
[15:53] <up_the_irons> jdoe: i tested the RAID after i set up the box.  specifically removed the first drive and rebooted.  it came back up like no big deal
[15:53] * jpalmer ponders upgrading to opsview 4,  and setting up puppet to manage hosts in opsview
[15:55] <jdoe> huh.
[15:57] <up_the_irons> cd $lunch
[16:01] <kraigu> jdoe: oh screw you for reminding me of that
[16:01] <kraigu> I got bitten by it in... jeez. 2007 or so. and I'm still bitter.
[16:02] <jdoe> don't mad.
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[17:24] <jpalmer> up_the_irons:   5.3 MB/s average from your mirror
[17:26] <jpalmer> is your mirror official yet?
[17:30] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: well, i announced it on the list, not sure when they make it "official"
[17:31] <jpalmer> well,  other than me.. are you seeing traffic to it from outside your network?  L)
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[18:04] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: no, not much
[18:12] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: most likely, because it is not on the official mirror list yet, nobody knows of it
[18:13] <jpalmer> yeah, I'm not sure how that works with any of the projects you are mirroring.   maybe prod them and ask?
[18:17] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: i did last week, so i'll wait a bit longer.  Ubuntu's mirror registration is automated, but it still says "Pending review".  wth? ;)
[18:27] <up_the_irons> now i just need 5 friends... http://t.co/00plzpBg
[18:27] <up_the_irons> lol
[18:48] <mhoran> Haha.
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[19:02] <fink> 5 friends…that's the hardest part!
[19:20] <up_the_irons> yup
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[20:55] <jlgaddis> hrm, i keep forgetting to put an order in
[20:55] * jlgaddis digs up the boss's credit card number and decides to do it now
[20:55] <milki> that sounds shady
[20:55] <jlgaddis> heh, it's for $work
[21:03] <jlgaddis> up_the_irons: you around?
[21:18] <jlgaddis> nevermind, order submitted  =)
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